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[62613]

What happened to the 12 - wheel Pullmans in C1407. They look to be in a very sorry state!

[DaveF]

2 hours ago, 62613 said:

What happened to the 12 - wheel Pullmans in C1407. They look to be in a very sorry state!

 

 

They were owned by Bill McAlpine and went to Carnforth when the preservation project was abandoned.  According to the book "Preserved Railway Carriages" - published, by Silverlink they were sold to become part of a restaurant at Ocean Park, near Sunderland.  They were removed in 2017 and were moved to Barrow Hill from where they went to the East Kent Railway.  Their names are Rosalind and Padua, there is information on the web if you do a search for them

 

David

[DaveF]

Some photos taken at Bulmers Railway Centre at their cider plant in Herford on 7th April 1974 to start with today.

 

 

Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre 4079 Pendennis Castle prior to hauling W Mc Alpine special Hereford to Shrewsbury 7th April 1974 C1566

 

 

Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre   Kitson Carnarvon 7th April 1974 C1567

 

 

Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre Hunslet Cider Queen and Fowler Woodpecker  and 57xx 5786 7th April 1974 C 1568

 

 

Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre 6000 King George V 7th April 1974  C1569

 

 

Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre A3 4472 Flying Scotsman  7th April 1974 C1575

 

 

David

[russ p]

21 minutes ago, DaveF said:

 

 

They were owned by Bill McAlpine and went to Carnforth when the preservation project was abandoned.  According to the book "Preserved Railway Carriages" - published, by Silverlink they were sold to become part of a restaurant at Ocean Park, near Sunderland.  They were removed in 2017 and were moved to Barrow Hill from where they went to the East Kent Railway.  Their names are Rosalind and Padua, there is information on the web if you do a search for them

 

David

 

Ii saw them over 10 years ago at Sunderland and they were fairly rough then . Can't imagine another 7 years in a salt atmosphere did them any favours 

[Chris116]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

 

 

They were owned by Bill McAlpine and went to Carnforth when the preservation project was abandoned.  According to the book "Preserved Railway Carriages" - published, by Silverlink they were sold to become part of a restaurant at Ocean Park, near Sunderland.  They were removed in 2017 and were moved to Barrow Hill from where they went to the East Kent Railway.  Their names are Rosalind and Padua, there is information on the web if you do a search for them

 

David

The East Kent Railway stock list does not include them so they must have moved from there. 

EDIT:- It appears they went to the  Folkestone Harbour station where they appear to be now. They may have been stored at the East Kent Railway for a time but I can't find any details of that actually happening.

Edited February 12, 2023 by Chris116
More and corrected information

[DaveF]

Manchester Victoria now, with one photo from 22nd May 1971 and the rest taken on 11th March 1989.

 

 

Manchester Victoria dmu Manchester to Pendleton, Bolton and Blackpool note white stripe 09.55 22nd May 71 C615

 

 

Manchester Victoria Class 104 set N682 18th March 89 C11687

 

 

Manchester Victoria 142008 and inspection saloon 11th March 89 C11685

 

 

Manchester Victoria 504445 M77166 leading ariving from Bury 11th March 89 C11683

 

 

Manchester Victoria 31426 Liverpool to Newcastle 18th March 89 C11695

 

 

David

[DaveF]

Today's third set come from Lincolnshire.

 

There are three from Bardney on the Great Northern Railway line from Lincoln to Boston along the River Witham.  Bardney was the junction for a line to Louth.

 

The other two are from Holton le Moor level crossing on the Great Central line from Lincoln through Market Rasen to Grimsby.

 

 

Bardney B1 4-6-0 down pass Bardney June 63 J054

 

 

Bardney left Class 105 Lincoln Central to Coningsby, right Class 114 Firsby to Lincoln Central Aug 68 J1389

 

 

Bardney down empty tube wagons April 72 J2896

 

 

 Holton le Moor B1 61107 up goods delivering water to crossing keepers house Sept 63 J064

 

 

Holton le Moor Class 31 D5554 shunting Nettleton mines iron ore sidings April 69 J1585

 

 

David

Edited February 12, 2023 by DaveF

[mullie]

J2896, my attention got totally taken by the colouring of everything except the wagons, one of the things that makes your photos so interesting, much more than just locos and rolling stock.

 

Thanks for posting.

 

Martyn

[JeffP]

56 minutes ago, mullie said:

J2896, my attention got totally taken by the colouring of everything except the wagons, one of the things that makes your photos so interesting, much more than just locos and rolling stock.

 

Thanks for posting.

 

Martyn

I agree.

I was interested to see on the photo of Cramlington station, six cars, only one of which is silver.

Nowadays, silver or black.

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a delightful set of photo’s of the Bulmers Railway Centre at their cider plant in Hereford, on the 7th April, 1974. In C1567, of Kitson, number 47, Carnarvon, you have captured a superb portrait shot of the locomotive.

 

The photo’s of Manchester Victoria, with one from the 22nd May 1971, with the rest from the 11th March 1989, are full of atmosphere and nostalgia. The first photo’, from the 22nd May, 1971, of the 09.55 Manchester to Pendleton, Bolton and Blackpool, is formed of two units, of class 104, with the first three car set having modified bogies to improve the ride, hence the white stripe, and has a Derby Lightweight, class 108/2 DMBS in place of the class 104/2 DMBS. And, of course, no white stripe for that car.

 

The Lincolnshire photo’s, with three from Bardney on the Great Northern Railway line from Lincoln to Boston along the River Witham, and two from Holton le Moor level crossing on the Great Central line from Lincoln through Market Rasen to Grimsby, are a superb set, oozing nostalgia again and are all of historic interest.

The first photo’ shows something quite rare, a complete train of Thompson non corridor carriages, with no interlopers, as hauled by a B1, on a down passenger train, at Bardney, in June, 1963. The ends of the carriages look suitably dirty.

In J064, at Holton le Moor, with B1, 61107, on an up goods train, delivering water to crossing keepers house, in September, 1963, and although the B1 is looking quite unkempt, the weathering would look good on a model.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

Some photos at Edinburgh Waverley now.  They are not in date order.

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 26003 and 47428, le, 47 dead 12th April 86 C7422

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 27210 light engine 2nd March 84 C6428

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 47231 up empty car carriers 12th April 86 C7420

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 47714 Glasgow to Edinburgh 12th April 86 C7421

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley Class 101 Cowdenbeath to Edinburgh 12th April 86 C7411

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley Classes 26, 101, 08 Aug 73  C1293

 

 

David

Edited February 13, 2023 by DaveF

[DaveF]

A quick trip to Edge Hill inLiverpool on a rather dull Saturday in January 1972.

 

 

Edge Hill Derby dmu Wigan North Western to Liverpool Lime St Jan 72 C0792

 

 

Edge Hill Class 08 3033 shunting Jan 72 C0793

 

 

Edge Hill Trans Pennine dmu Liverpool Lime St to Hull, away shot and 08033 Jan 72 C795

 

 

Edge Hill Derby dmu Wign North Western to Liverpool Lime St Jan 72 C796

 

 

Edge Hill Derby dmu Liverpool Lime St to Warrington Jan 72 C799

 

 

Edge Hill 304017 Liverpool Lime St to Runcorn Jan 72 C802

 

 

David

[DaveF]

A final set today on the Great Eastern at Colchester and Lexden.

 

 

 

Colchester 312782 down pass to Walton and Clacton May 81 C5362

 

 

Colchester Class 47 down ex pass May 81 C5364

 

 

Colchester St Botolphs  May 81 C5363

 

 

Lexden seen from A12 dmu up pass Oct 75 C2477

 

 

Lexden 312785 Clacton to Liverpool St May 83 C6046

 

 

 Lexden Class 31 Colchester to Liverpool St May 83 C6047

 

 

David

[corneliuslundie]

That first Waverley photo is a cracker. And lots of interest apart from the foreground train.

And the one of Lexden seen from the A12 exemplifies exactly the kind of scene I would live to me able to produce on a model. The backscene might be possible, butt those fields in the foreground would need pretty wide baseboard, even in 2 mm.

Jonathan

[russ p]

4 hours ago, DaveF said:

Some photos at Edinburgh Waverley now.  They are not in date order.

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 26003 and 47428, le, 47 dead 12th April 86 C7422

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 27210 light engine 2nd March 84 C6428

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 47231 up empty car carriers 12th April 86 C7420

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley 47714 Glasgow to Edinburgh 12th April 86 C7421

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley Class 101 Cowdenbeath to Edinburgh 12th April 86 C7411

 

 

Edinburgh Waverley Classes 26, 101, 08 Aug 73  C1293

 

 

David

 

Great pictures again today David,  in C7411  the grey seems to extend lower than normal,  was that a Scottish variation? 

[DaveF]

13 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

Great pictures again today David,  in C7411  the grey seems to extend lower than normal,  was that a Scottish variation? 

 

It may be but I did see the same variation around Newcastle.

 

David

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That is a most excellent set of photo’s of Edinburgh Waverley station, with C7421, of 47714, on a Glasgow to Edinburgh push pull service, on the 12th April, 1986, being a particularly splendid portrait shot of the 47. 
 

The photo’s of Edge Hill in Liverpool, on a dull Saturday in January, 1972, are a most evocative selection, and show that it can be a bit grim up north in such weather. The last photo’ is particularly good, and shows a grimy looking 304017, on a Liverpool Lime St to Runcorn service, and it is about to plunge into some particularly gloomy and grimy looking surroundings. 
 

The photo’s of the Great Eastern at Colchester and Lexden, are superb, and brighten things up considerably after the visit to Edge Hill. In C2477, at Lexden, as seen from the A12, a hybrid dmu is seen on an up passenger train, in October, 1975. It is a great example of a ‘train in the landscape’.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[russ p]

13 hours ago, DaveF said:

 

It may be but I did see the same variation around Newcastle.

 

David

 

I must have seen it, I used to drive them but only noticed it yesterday in your picture 

Cheers 

[billy_anorak59]

16 hours ago, DaveF said:

Edge Hill Derby dmu Liverpool Lime St to Warrington Jan 72 C799

 C799 makes an interesting 'then and then' comparison with a photo a friend took just under 4 years earlier of a more (in)famous train - IT57 on 11th August 1968:

[St Enodoc]

36 minutes ago, billy_anorak59 said:

 C799 makes an interesting 'then and then' comparison with a photo a friend took just under 4 years earlier of a more (in)famous train - IT57 on 11th August 1968:

If I'd been watching that train I don't think I'd have worn pale slacks...

[DaveF]

The Blyth and Tyne at Plessey Road level crossing in Newsham, on the edge of Blyth on 11th March 1984.

 

The track was being replaced at the level crossing.

 

 Plessey Road Crossing Newsham cranes DR 81312 and ano tracklaying 11th March 84 C6434

 

 

 Plessey Road Crossing Newsham 37093 track train 11th March 84 C6451

 

 

Plessey Road Crossing Newsham 11th March 84 C6452

 

 

Plessey Road Crossing Newsham 37093 ballast train 11th March 84  C6453

 

 

Plessey Road Crossing Newsham ballasting 11th March 84 C6454

 

 

David

 

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by DaveF

[Erichill16]

Funny how kids on bikes always turn up whenever something out of the ordinary happens.

Like flys around  …

[43110andyb]

Great pictures of renewals at Plessey and back then this was the ‘Norm’.  In the here and now they are like a ‘spot the mistake’ out of a H&S manual! 
  I have clocked up around 10+ in a minute 😂

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a most fascinating set of photo’s of the Blyth and Tyne at Plessey Road level crossing, as on the 11th March, 1984, with track renewals underway. I’m not familiar with 37093. I see it has differing cantrail grills. Has anyone more information about those grills please? 
And in the first photo’ of cranes DR 81312, and another one, unidentified, it is great seeing them at work on the track relaying.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Davexoc]

58 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, David. That’s a most fascinating set of photo’s of the Blyth and Tyne at Plessey Road level crossing, as on the 11th March, 1984, with track renewals underway. I’m not familiar with 37093. I see it has differing cantrail grills. Has anyone more information about those grills please?

 

It appears to be unique and not built like that, happening sometime in the early 80's, but can't see wht as yet. 37093 was also unique in that it was the loco painted into 'Police' livery for a BR advert, and the temporary paint job wasn't as easily removeable as planned....