Rail-Online Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hi, Seen at Preston in 1962 behind a B1(!) these coaches look strange to me, the cladding extends over the solebar and the leading one appears to have a domed roof. Are they from a LMS special train? Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 They're also fairly obviously an articulated pair. I've never knowingly seen anything like these, very interesting. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 They were part of the Royal Scot sets built just before the war and never used for the intended purpose. Some of them made up the Royal Scot that toured the USA with the Duchess. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky W Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I thought that set had ducting on the roof for forced air ventilation - or am I mistaken...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Taz Posted May 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2014 I believe Keith is right. They do look like part of the Coronation Scot sets. There is a picture on p159 of Jenkinson & Essery LMS Coaches showing what could be the exact same type of coach in it's original streamlined condition. Looks like it could be a BFK + FK combination judging by the number of windows/spacing. They were to Diag 2014 Lot 1148 & 1176A Running numbers were 56500/56501 (first lot - these were in the train which toured the US) and 56002-56005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I thought that set had ducting on the roof for forced air ventilation - or am I mistaken...? The 1937 sets, which were basically upgraded but standard design Staniers, were like that. The 1939/40 coaches were completely different, as you can see from the photo. More about all the different sets here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Agreed that they are a 1940 Coronation Scot pair. These are not usually known as 'porthole' stock as that term usually applies to the post-nationalisation final version of LMS designs of corridor stock. Here is another pair: 1940_Coronation-Scot_Northampton_c1960 by robertcwp, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I was just reading this accident report after someone posted elsewhere that it was 50 years ago today (yesterday). There is an intriguing mention that two of the coaches of the excursion were articulated together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 They also seem to have a family likeness to the LMS 1940s Royal Train coaches. http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=2570 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I believe one of the former Royal Train LMS built support coaches was repainted in 'Coronation Scot' style, though I can't find a picture online. Still, here's the real thing (the US tour train). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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