sir douglas Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 just seen on the WHHR facebook page a photo of Russell nearly finished and painted in its original NWNGR red, i cant a suitable link to a pic of it thats not facebook. it an unusual shade of red but very nice https://www.facebook.com/WHHRly regards, Sam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Looks like Crimson Lake to me (with a lot of reflections on a high gloss finish) which makes it look rather pink. It will be interesting to see how it appears in full daylight. There's another picture here for non-Facebook users: http://www.isengard.co.uk/#News Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinwestwales Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Suspect the back cab sheet shows a closer colour match-The old girl looks mighty fine-cant wait to see her back on her old stamping ground-would be great to see some of those old pics re-created with Russell & Palmerston or Prince meeting at Beddgelert with appropriate vintage stock-not financially viable ,but a great photo op........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I'd say that's scrubbed up ok https://www.flickr.com/photos/55958391@N07/14816672053/in/set-72157642088360265/lightbox/ Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted August 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2014 Russell is of course now in its NWNGR condition. I wonder if there has been any suggestion that it might be provided with alternative cab and boiler fittings to represent its cut-down condition from the Welsh Highland era, which is how it appears in the majority of photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Russell is of course now in its NWNGR condition. I wonder if there has been any suggestion that it might be provided with alternative cab and boiler fittings to represent its cut-down condition from the Welsh Highland era, which is how it appears in the majority of photograph Since the Moelwyn Tunnel - where she originally got stuck - has now been replaced and the modern bore has a greater loading gauge in every direction, I wonder if she could get up to Blaenau as she is? Certainly in her 1930s condition she looked rather woebegone - that cut down dome cover was positively ugly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted August 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2014 Since the Moelwyn Tunnel - where she originally got stuck - has now been replaced and the modern bore has a greater loading gauge in every direction, I wonder if she could get up to Blaenau as she is? Certainly in her 1930s condition she looked rather woebegone - that cut down dome cover was positively ugly! Indeed. The 1930's modifications were a crude disfigurement, but Russell in this form was an icon of the 1920's/30's WHR, and I was wondering whether there might be members of the WHHR who would want to recreate that era from time to time. The cut-down fittings would be a spare set that could be swapped in temporarily on particular occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought after the cutting down, the width of loco was still a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ngtrains.com Posted August 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yes it probably would go through Moelwyn Tunnel if only it would fit through Garnedd Tunnel first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Yes it probably would go through Moelwyn Tunnel if only it would fit through Garnedd Tunnel first Yes, Garnedd is the current tight spot I think. Should we daylight it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 If you mean take the top out of the tunnel, the geologist/engineers reckon the tunnel top is keeping the rest of the hill above it in place! There is the remains of the original trackbed around the outside of the hill but that would involve a lot of strengthening and rebuilding even allowing for the fact it would introduce some fearsome "S" shaped corners. This is a project which keeps rumbling around in the back ground and has done for many years, the biggest drawback ,as ever, is the need for loads of money to do it. Next problem after that would then be the height, or rather lack of height, at the lower end of Rhiw Plas road over bridge. Or do you mean make Russell cabless !! Phil T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Sorry, 'daylighting' is the common North American term for opening out a tunnel to increase the loading gauge or reduce maintenance. In this country it's even been done to canals - the Fenny Compton Tunnel on the South Oxford hasn't been an actual tunnel for well over a century; in the railway world, Talerddig Cutting was planned to be a tunnel but was never built as such, which probably doesn't count! The original line round the headland at Garnedd would, of course, never have seen a steam engine; it was one of the quick fixes (like the Moelwyn inclines) used to get the line open quickly, leaving the tunnels to be finished off when time allowed. I walked that whole section up to the Moelwyn Tunnel back in the 60s, when the views were a lot better than they are now - sadly, subsequent tree growth has spoiled the 'Wow' factor, just as it has on the Rheidol line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I walked that whole section up to the Moelwyn Tunnel back in the 60s, when the views were a lot better than they are now - sadly, subsequent tree growth has spoiled the 'Wow' factor, just as it has on the Rheidol line. I take it you have not visited recently; the area has had a serious visit from the chainsaw fairy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I take it you have not visited recently; the area has had a serious visit from the chainsaw fairy. Is that the Rheidol (which I shall happily visit when Palmerston comes to call next month!) or the FfR? Not been on the latter for a couple of years (my last visit was with the Colonel Stephens Society), so it's due a call before too long (as is the Welshpool line, which is really one of my favourites). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted August 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2014 The FR, Llyn Mair has magically reappeared below up trains above Tanybwlch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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