Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 A very good combination Phill it looks superb, don't know if it's just me but IMO there's something about the face/cab front of the JLTRT Hymek that isn't right, probably a bit cheeky coming from someone with 2 bashed about Triang ones.. Rob No, not at all Rob, I completely agree the JLTRT Hymek is not right IMHO......... I would say the Heljan is by far the most accurate Hymek in 7mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 I did attempt to reshape the cab windows on my Triang Hymeks.... But I eventually replaced them when Heljan were selling off surplus body shells 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hi Randy, The Hymek now has on board sound & works very well too giving good Bluetooth range outdoors & vastly superior sound any DCC soundchips I have encountered. I have experimented with both Veho & Anker Bluetooth speakers, the Veho performed well & gave good sound quality, but the Anker gave a more full sound & has better bass response , the Anker also picks up Bluetooth signal better & was less prone to losing signal over longer range than the Veho. I now have 3 Anker speakers & I am planning to have on board sounds on my Westerns & Warships too, I have already got a fairly complete sound file collection for Westerns & Warships although I may have to rethink the battery arrangements for these classes to provide room for the speakers. Here is a pic showing the Hymek chassis with Anker Bluetooth speaker fitted...... 1-20160720_152331-001.jpg Nice work Phill, I hope to follow suit. Still not getting regular alerts from your Thread though - even though settings have been tweaked! I.T eh!! ATVB CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Nice work there Phill, had a similar go with mine but to no real accuracy just what looked a bit better. Rob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Nice work there Phill, had a similar go with mine but to no real accuracy just what looked a bit better. Rob Yes, that was what Idea I had too, to make them look better rather than delve too deeply into the inaccuracy of the Triang model. Looking at your pic I think you have got the balance just right BTW What did you use for roof lifting hooks on your Hymek ? Edited July 26, 2016 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Nice work Phill, I hope to follow suit. Still not getting regular alerts from your Thread though - even though settings have been tweaked! I.T eh!! ATVB CME Not sure about alerts .......I just follow threads I'm particularly interested in & click content/follow button which works fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) A bit of prototype inspiration for me me & not to mention Hydraulic haulage at the East Lancs Railway on Sunday, here's a few pics .... Edited July 27, 2016 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HealeyMills Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hi Phil, Great photos... it seems I did not manage to meet you after all on Sunday Cheers Lee 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Yes, that was what Idea I had too, to make them look better rather than delve too deeply into the inaccuracy of the Triang model. Looking at your pic I think you have got the balance just right BTW What did you use for roof lifting hooks on your Hymek ? Hi Phill, There is a US company that does them, Jon D., of Vine Street fame, used those on his Hymek (Triang), or very small split pins is another option - or, if one spoke nicely to Laurie at JLTRT, he may have some LWB ones? Not sure about alerts .......I just follow threads I'm particularly interested in & click content/follow button which works fine Got this one okay - not sure if I need to thank Andy York (he and I were both confused by it), I have some set for immediate alerts and some set for weekly and both were sporadic and outside of their parameters.....only me and I.T!?? ATVB CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Those are lovely b&w pics Phill, very nostalgic feel to them. I particularly like the last one, excellent idea with a great result! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 A bit of prototype inspiration for me me & not to mention Hydraulic haulage at the East Lancs Railway on Sunday, here's a few pics .... 832 2.jpg 832.jpg Peak.jpg 1-20160724_110035.jpg Aah my old Hometown, it always looked black and white ..... well grey and dull most days being on the wetter side of the "Magic Mountains" Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks for the kind comments Phill, I used Heljan Western lifting hoops from the spares sprues from Howes. Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hi Phil, Great photos... it seems I did not manage to meet you after all on Sunday Cheers Lee You will have to send a pic next time so i know what you look like 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Aah my old Hometown, it always looked black and white ..... well grey and dull most days being on the wetter side of the "Magic Mountains" Craig. I think I need to join the ELR....I do like to spend a lot of time at one of my favourite railways 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hi Phill, There is a US company that does them, Jon D., of Vine Street fame, used those on his Hymek (Triang), or very small split pins is another option - or, if one spoke nicely to Laurie at JLTRT, he may have some LWB ones? Got this one okay - not sure if I need to thank Andy York (he and I were both confused by it), I have some set for immediate alerts and some set for weekly and both were sporadic and outside of their parameters.....only me and I.T!?? ATVB CME what's the company? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 what's the company? Hi Phill, It was some time back but, Jon Dening wrote and told me that his were from 'Detail Associates' USA. I still have a Hymek to do for a friend - hes very patient! So I haven't got around to ordering from them yet - I would probably try JLTRT. Hope that helps - I had to delve into my archives to find that info LOL!! ATVB CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 These are very useful little addition to the Hymek builders armoury....... much better than the unusable whitemetal blobs I purchased from a certain other supplier 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 These are very useful little addition to the Hymek builders armoury....... 1-20160709_110002.jpg much better than the unusable whitemetal blobs I purchased from a certain other supplier Agreed Phill and the Mainline Locos detailing sets too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyWales Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Thanks Randy, your pioneering work with Bluetooth real loco sound has made a massive difference my railway......I have been searching for a workable sound system for R/C for some time. I have had an Anker in bits & I may have to resort to this method for other classes of loco, but this is not really needed for now with the Hymeks as I have interchangeable bodies sharing the same chassis, so the Hymek bodies are very easy to remove. Phill...When I started putting forward my ideas for using onboard Bluetooth sound on RMweb, (even though I never tried to hide the fact), I received unwarranted criticism because you have to run the trains to match the sounds you hear. What do you think, and is there anything you could suggest to improve things? It's not perfect, but it's high quality on the cheap. Regards Randall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Phill... When I started putting forward my ideas for using onboard Bluetooth sound on RMweb, (even though I never tried to hide the fact), I received unwarranted criticism because you have to run the trains to match the sounds you hear. What do you think, and is there anything you could suggest to improve things? It's not perfect, but it's high quality on the cheap. Regards Randall I wouldn't worry about the armchair critics Randy, thank's to you I have working sound at £15 per loco which is far superior to any DCC soundchip I have ever heard. I would like some Bluetooth speakers with even longer range for my garden railway & I am watching developments in wireless Bluetooth control too. Do you have any further developments in mind? Edited July 30, 2016 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Phill... When I started putting forward my ideas for using onboard Bluetooth sound on RMweb, (even though I never tried to hide the fact), I received unwarranted criticism because you have to run the trains to match the sounds you hear. What do you think, and is there anything you could suggest to improve things? It's not perfect, but it's high quality on the cheap. Regards Randall Hi Randy , I echo Phill's comments...... ......I would say that you have done some sterling - and 'out of the box thinking' - work on the matter, so you should have no worries IMHO. Nothing 'man' made is ever perfect hence the need for continuous improvement and other such philosophies . I was telling Phill how I had had some great results from the sound that PC based flight sims use (very realistic with only a few exceptions whereby by some 'phaser' or 'flanger' sounds come through - the rock guitarists amongst you will know what I mean by such effects or FX ) all via ultra cheap 2:1 speaker system from ASDA (eg. the Cessna and Piper sounds were very good, I had been brought up around airfields and aircraft as my dad had a pilots licence, so these sounds really take me back). I had long been pondering if I could do similar for the railway. I had also started using small bluetooth type speakers for ambient sounds, such as birdsong etc on 'Draycott'. Over the years in terms of DCC sound I have only heard 3 decent decoder applications - three locos whereby I thought; 'yeah that could be just worth the additional cost'. One of the locos had the decoder sounds re-worked by a clever chap who took hours to do so. I had also written in a couple of mags about how sound doesnt 'scale' (so your armchair critics may have sound that follows the locos movements but it wont be to scale and the speakers within are, IMHHO, still compromised, a compromise, for model loco sound via DCC). As I always say though; each to their own and no value judgements made! Two of the best layouts with sound that I have ever heard (seen)? Mostyn (at the time using generic under-baseboard type sounds with multiple speaks/2:1 surround-sound? - ie a superbly detailed fine-scale P4 'modern image' layout whereby the sound enhanced rather than detracted) and a narrow gauge layout using under baseboard speakers so that the sound followed the train - using a TRAX controls sound system. ___________________________________________ A Link hereunder (the internet samples for such are slightly compromised as they have been copyrighted/masked and are also being played through the internet/PCs etc via compressed files. "(N.B. in reality, the sounds produced are more realistic than in these sound samples, because of the compression applied during the recording process)". I couldn't find a decent You Tube clip of Mostyn without the sound being contaminated by the usual model-railway exhibition type background noise - suffice to say that the over all effect of Mostyn is superb, including the sound, very, very convincing! http://www.traxcontrols.com/modules_diesel_engine.htm _____________________________________________ I understand why sound decoders are expensive - one is paying for the development of sound recording (from real locos) etc. - yet pricing could still be set at a premium as the market hasn't yet reached saturation (ie using 'market forces' and charging what the market will bear) - decoder based sound is slowly getting better but I have held off for the time-being. Looking at and hearing the You Tube clips with blue-tooth sound I would say that it is very, very impressive......I wouldnt worry what others think! I wouldn't worry about the armchair critics Randy, thank's to you I have working sound at £15 per loco which is far superior to any DCC soundchip have ever heard. I would like some Bluetooth speakers with even longer range for my garden railway & I am watching developments in wireless Bluetooth control too. Do you have any further developments in mind? I agree Phill ........ .........So few decoders replicate, with the current tech in terms of speakers etc., the prototype all that well and cost a lot for the privilege - as I say some are better than others - without reiterating chapter and verse, sound doesn't scale, just like water and smoke dont scale. So those with real smoke, decoder based sound - and sometimes real water - are not modelling 'to scale' and thus their models are not accurate either! Thus cant really criticise blue-tooth based systems either! - at this time, sound in models is a compromise and can be a real 'Marmite' issue for many........ ..........Even for me, sometimes the best sound is merely the wheel-beats over track joints made by MK1 coaching stock, ie after the loco has passed by all one hears are the wheel-beats of the coaches, Jack Ray et al used to achieve such to nigh on perfection. ATVB CME Edited July 30, 2016 by CME and Bottlewasher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 The newest edition to the Withercombe fleet, Class 33 33053. This loco will run later period of Withercombe's time periods ... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 The last built Hymek leaves Withercombe with a rag bag collection of permanent way stock....the tunnel in the background is where the railway exits the garage & goes out into the garden.... 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The newest edition to the Withercombe fleet, Class 33 33053. This loco will run later period of Withercombe's time periods ... 1-20160605_213450.jpg Now we are talking, what a beast. Looks like a Heljan model though how have you fitted your RC gear to it. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 Now we are talking, what a beast. Looks like a Heljan model though how have you fitted your RC gear to it. Cheers Peter. No not yet Peter, it was a secondhand bargain from the Doncaster GOG show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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