jimwal Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Compound2632 said: The steam heating system might call for two pipes? Or, was the carriage ever fitted for motor train operation using the vacuum-controlled regulator (VCR) system? (Did the LNER use that?) Don't know of any two-pipe steam heating systems. The LNER (and LMS) used vacuum controlled regulators for motor train operation which had occoured to me as the other pipe. These saloons were permitted to be propelled but didn't have any more than an emergency brake valve at the observation end. I believe the practice only ceased in recent years. Could Richard's carriage been involved in trials of the VCR system before its general use? The steam railmotors seemingly weren't up to the job so the railways needed a solution. Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 There was goading at the club that the interior really needed to be finished properly, including the seats with their distinctive button pulling down the seats and backs of all the leather furniture. some discussion of how that might be achieved. here is the sofa roughly done to test the principle. Does it pass muster? have yet to fit the hanging tassel at the end of the arm at the far end. only Ten chairs to do in a similar way now. Richard 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, richard i said: There was goading at the club that the interior really needed to be finished properly, including the seats with their distinctive button pulling down the seats and backs of all the leather furniture. I'm looking at that and thinking "track pins" though that might be more to scale at 7 mm. The buttoned-in bits are quite sharp depressions; one would want to try to avoid an egg-box look. Sorry, that really is armchair modelling on my part as well as yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, richard i said: There was goading at the club that the interior really needed to be finished properly, including the seats with their distinctive button pulling down the seats and backs of all the leather furniture. Richard Who was it Richard? Next time I am in Essex I will shake their hand for making you do things right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I'm looking at that and thinking "track pins" though that might be more to scale at 7 mm. The buttoned-in bits are quite sharp depressions; one would want to try to avoid an egg-box look. Sorry, that really is armchair modelling on my part as well as yours! There was talk of fitting the individual buttons but I am drawing the line as it is all behind glazing. I know I am a spoil sport. armchairs to come. You have got me thinking to fit a person reading a modeling mag. A true arm chair modeler to inspect my railway. 17 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Who was it Richard? Next time I am in Essex I will shake their hand for making you do things right. the usual suspects. I actually really value it as it stops me from slipping and accepting sloppy modeling. richard 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 The underframe had to change. Dow got it wrong. Thanks to a photo from Keith both sides can be worked out. So out with the battery boxes both sides. Move the one set sideways because my dyslexia had put them skewed on the wrong side. On the other a gas cylinder. Also took the opportunity to change to a correct gcr dynamo from the LMS one I had fitted first as I found my stock of gcr ones. I might need to balance the weight to get the carriage to not lean. We shall see. richard 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 You can prevent coaches leaning by having one bogie with a transverse support, but able to rock fore and aft, and the other on a longitudinal one and able to rock side to side, thus giving you a degree of compensation. Jim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 Thanks Jim I have a couple of washers in so both bogies can move in both planes but will look at replacing them with sheet which allows movement only in one plane each. richard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 Seating mark 2 the chairs first one built as a test for height etc. it still needs the clay put on to simulate the leather. I think an improvement will be to mark it with aphilips screwdriver as that will give the corner lines as well as the indent. that is an experiment for tomorrow. richard 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 Leather fitted. Perhaps too thin on the filler to get maximum definition. shows enough promise to have a go at the other eight. Dow shows 10 but one blocks the door and is not in the photo of the interior so I am leaving it out. richard 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Side project. numbers arrived so they were painted up and fitted. coal added and the loco is done minus any subtle weathering at a later date. richard 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2021 That really does look the part! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Chairs with screwdriver dimples which are clearly not just a point as they have the crease lines. need cleaning up then painting. need some depth to filler to allow depression to be made. Kind of logical I suppose. richard 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Two things. one: it is going to be teak which I Can not find a picture of so will base the livery on this one. two: this photo show the roll down map which would cover the window by the sofa. Do I model it rolled down or rolled up? down it limits it to post 1915. Up could be from 1910. richard 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted November 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, richard i said: Two things. one: it is going to be teak which I Can not find a picture of so will base the livery on this one. two: this photo show the roll down map which would cover the window by the sofa. Do I model it rolled down or rolled up? down it limits it to post 1915. Up could be from 1910. richard Richard, I would do it up, assuming that down it was actually distinguishable as a map, or the difference was obvious. Also if it was down you would have to put Dettingen on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 It would be visible from the other large picture window. Dettingen would be on it in the same way Springfield was on simpsons maps of America. They would point but you would not see exactly where they were pointing. richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) This week has mostly been painting and grab handles/ door furniture. windows, transfers to go. Plus the dreaded ( by me) hand rails around the open air vestibule s. I have a plan but am open to plans B to Z if needs be. richard Edited November 28, 2021 by richard i 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 The distractions. they were damaged in a car crash and I was asked if I could put them back together they are of their age and I have not tried to tweak them other than to get them to run again. it has been refreshing to change tack. Normal service will resume on the coach. richard 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 End of the year is always busy. That is why it took a while to finish Here it is, as close as I could work out it should be. next up some Robinson suburbans. Designed by John fozard just before he passed away. A true gentleman in all his correspondence with me. They look well designed but came with no instructions. I can work out what all bar one type of piece does. I will start the build and see if what they are comes to me. anyone lucky enough to have built any of his kits? richard 7 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Edwardian era suburbans with panelling and beading, or the later matchboarded type? Both are from the Robinson period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Matchboard this time. I think they will be quicker to build. That’s the theory anyway. richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwal Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Well done Richard, especially the handrails around the ends that was puzzling you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Next carriage. I have tried a new method ( for me) of adding all detail before putting it together i had come round to splitting at the solebars as the better approach, but this kit does not lend itself to this approach. So I am questioning whether to build it as intended or convert the ends so it can be built so it splits in the middle. richard 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 The three have got to the stage of plonking the bogies, bodies and roofs together. the build will slow as the kit pieces have been exhausted. Bogie sides are a 3d print. The vacuum cylinders are a casting I am doing. 2 at a time, as I need them for a further 25 coaches it will take most of the month to cast enough for the carriages I need to build. They are green in the picture as the are made with a 2 part setting clay. richard 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 Feeling less exposed with sides to the bogies on and couplings sorted just steam heat pipes, roofs and guards duckets to fit. they will wait on painting for better weather. they will need a test drive to check if they need tweaking to get consistency in their running. richard 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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