Giggle pin Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Nice work. Looking good Bri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Noticed at Stafford yesterday that Dean Sidings do a Stirling single if anyone is interested. That too probably has compromises to fit the Hornby chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Noticed at Stafford yesterday that Dean Sidings do a Stirling single if anyone is interested. That too probably has compromises to fit the Hornby chassis. Which Hornby chassis? Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Which Hornby chassis? I must need educating Ed. How many Hornby single-wheel chassis are there? I thought LoTI and 123 shared the same chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frappington Jct Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I think the Dean Sidings kit uses the Bachmann Emily chassis rather than the Hornby dean single one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think the Dean Sidings kit uses the Bachmann Emily chassis rather than the Hornby dean single one His price list says the recommended chassis is "Railroad Emily/Caley Single". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 His [Dave of Dean Sidings] price list says the recommended chassis is "Railroad Emily/Caley Single". He sounds to be an interesting guy, judging by the wealth of enticing images posted up shewing his resin body kits assembled and painted. There is a 'snail mail' address for him in post #90 here dh (PS I've so enoyed following this thread) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Jason's revised 3D prints arrived from Shapeways today. Here they are after washing and with a quick coat of filler primer: The cylinder covers are odd as they exhibit extra bands which look as if they have been caused by the bolt heads: The smokebox door shown before cleaning up with fine wet and dry: The chimney and valve cover: I have been cleaning up the parts with fine wet and dry and repriming. As expected the valve covers are the hardest and I have made a special tool to help. A stick with the end squared off and a piece of wet and dry superglued on the end then trimmed: This time around I remembered to order FUD which I do agree is generally better quality (other than the cylinder covers). 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 The drill arrived yesterday so I have been able to make some progress. First off I added a false floor to the tender from styrene: Handrail positions were marked out by measuring from top and bottom then using a pair of dividers to set the spacing from the edge, then drilled: Gibson short handrail knobs inserted and the dimension over the heads taken: A length of 0.45mm N/S wire was cut to the measured length then inserted through the handrail knobs and a minute amount of superglue applied with a length of wire where the N/S wire goes through the handrail knob and then on the inside of the tender more superglue applied to hold them in place: Very, very fiddly!!!! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 I had been trying to work out how to accurately locate the handrails and fit them on the loco. In the end I decided to produce the handrails as separate items, the two straight bits either side of the boiler and a separate bent one to fit the smokebox. This means the joint needs to be in the leading handrail knob on the side of the smokebox. I started of creating a drilling jig from styrene. A line was scribed down one edge then the various handrail knob positions plotted and drilled: This template was then aligned against Emily and held in place with blu-tack: Once I was happy with its position the holes were drilled through: Gibson medium length handrail knobs were used for the boiler and a short one used for the smokebox. Wire thread through as before and cut to length secured as before. To get a reasonable alignment I had to ease the smokebox handrail knob out a tad (tad is a technical term for a 1/2 smidgen): Before glueing a small hole was drilled in the cab to receive the end of the handrail: Here is the result showing that the handrail is reasonably straight: Flushed with success I tried to plot the equivalent position on t'other side. In hindsight it would have been easier to trim the template narrower as you can see here: Now I can check its alignment from the other side to check it is horizontal to the boiler: Oh boy those handrail knobs are fiddly. I had to swap to use a strong pair of reading glasses and use extra lighting. This time I threaded them onto the cut handrail wire and fixed them in place with blu-tack: That helped a lot. After embarrassing Emily with my language I finally managed to get the handrail and knobs secure. They even seem to line up which is a miracle: Flushed with success I added the cab handrails: After fixing Jason's smokebox door this is how she now looks. Phew! 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Beautiful work...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thank you. I do feel I am on the home run now but how on earth I am going to tackle the GNR livery has still not been determined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted February 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2015 Phew indeed. I don't know which is more stress, buying a house at auction or finding out the results of all that reworking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thank you. I do feel I am on the home run now but how on earth I am going to tackle the GNR livery has still not been determined. Indeed just as we achieve one aspect of our modelling another challenge presents itself....im certain however give the work to date that it will be succesfully overcome..best wishes on a fantastic project....and me a Midland man.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 im certain however give the work to date that it will be succesfully overcome. I would not assume anything. My painting skills are not one of my strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Time to use Jason's 3D printed parts. Using a razor saw the front of the cylinders were flattened and a slot created between them and the footplate: Rather than cut full depth in the body and make the moulding weaker I have filed back the cylinder covers. Also had to take off three of Jason's carefully crafted bolts: Covers epoxied in place: Decided it was time to apply Emily's chimney. After taking shedloads of time to get it vertical it was epoxied in place: Looking good. Here she is posed with Jason's valve cover: Two holes were drilled in the smokebox front ready to take handrail knobs (yes I got one wrong and had to fill it and redrill). A piece of 0.45mm N/S wire was bend, tweaked, nudged and adjusted until it looked OK. Two handrail knobs threaded on ready: Front handrail fitted in place with shortened sides trimmed to just enter the side knobs and superglued in place: Having spent so much effort getting that chimney upright in hindsight I am not convinced and I think it has a lean to her left side. Tried taking it off but the epoxy is doing the job it was designed for and I am scared that I might break it. Suggestions on a postcard to ...... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted February 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2015 It's looking great Mike. It's worlds away from Emily now, and will look amazing with a bit of green on it. Thanks for the paint information by the way, I'm ordering my loco later, and I'm looking forward to getting started. I'll be glued to my seat looking at how you tackle the lining. An untested idea would be to use the Silhouette, at least for the white-black-white lines - draw out the black line onto white transfer paper, then use the silhoutte to cut around it leaving a white margin on both sides... cheers Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 I am thinking of creating transfers but not using the Silhouette. The paint information Jason is refering to relates to my attempt at matching Vallejo paints to their GNR/LNER equivalents. I am a great fan of these paints and am considering them for Emily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted February 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2015 "I am thinking of creating transfers but not using the Silhouette." You have my attention! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Don't hold your breath. Not got there yet. BTW I am extremely lucky. Tried running a knife under the chimney and it popped of so I can now realign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 It really was impossible for me to perceive Jason's chimney's 'lean to her left side' in the pictures posted. I've been wandering around trying to think of ways of optically aligning the chimney without success. Not even Swindon's famous Zeiss kit would be of use to you. Those cylinder covers look beautifully fettled up and fitted. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 I tried attaching the chimney again and still was not happy so third time lucky. What does not help is I look at it and it looks OK, then I look later in the day and it looks off. I blame my eyesight. It is surprising what a difference the cylinder covers make as they are very prominent on the prototype. Painting draws nearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted February 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Mike, what about some card with a wide slot in it that goes over the smokebox and the diameter of the outside of the top of the chimney marked dead centre on it? Edited February 6, 2015 by JCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 An absolutely fantastic conversion, very neat and well done, can't wait to see her painted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mike, what about some card with a wide slot in it that goes over the smokebox and the diameter of the outside of the top of the chimney marked dead centre on it? That might have worked. Oh well, next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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