RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted November 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2015 Good grief man! A brief hiatus and suddenly a bloomin' great fell has appeared! Seriously though, cracking stuff and it shows just how colossal the scenery will be. There's no stopping you now. (Unless you keep running out of mod-roc ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Jeff, Your Fell is looking pretty awesome already, well done that man. I'm just a little concerned now though - how are you going to get to the fell in order to do the "detailing", stone walls, sheep, grass, sheep paths, maybe water troughs for the sheep etc, etc. The structure looks so vast, I can't see any way for you to reach the upper and middle areas - unless you can throw a blanket over and lie on the fell itself, maybe? Sorry if you've already explained this, me heap thick! Cheers, John. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 30, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2015 Evening John. No, you're not thick and it may not be immediately apparent that access to the majority of the Fell is very easy. The work of art diagram (below) shows it's easy to reach over to the backscene by standing on a chair. The top of the Fell is around 6'3" above floor level (2'3" above fiddle yard datum, ~ 67cm). Jeff 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 30, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2015 You're getting The Saint to do your Scenics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2015 You're getting The Saint to do your Scenics? Hee hee - that dates you! Anyway, he'd lost his halo - so I've found it for him..... Jeff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Evening John. No, you're not thick and it may not be immediately apparent that access to the majority of the Fell is very easy. The work of art diagram (below) shows it's easy to reach over to the backscene by standing on a chair. The top of the Fell is around 6'3" above floor level (2'3" above fiddle yard datum, ~ 67cm). Fell access.jpg Jeff Thank goodness for that, just don't over reach from that chair! I had visions of you needed something like they use in hospitals to winch patients in & out of bed, or something!!! Anyway, "the Saint" shows how easy it will be. Cheers, John. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two_sugars Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Doo Doodly do do doh!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Morning Simon, oops sorry Jeff.............Jason beat me to it. Can I have your Volvo if your not using it. Monsterous scenics going there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great progress Jeff and I'm enjoying watching your work again, but TTIMWG ... (This thread is meaningless without grass) Sorry - hat, coat, scarf, gloves etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great Fell Work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jeff, I thought that you'd be ordering scaffolding for detailing the fell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2015 The garage door framework serves as excellent scaffolding to lean against....a hidden benefit of leaving it in place! At risk of boring you all to tear, here's the Fell as it stands - with board up to the top. I'll be building the frame for the next section (viaduct end) tomorrow. I'm now waiting for my mod-roc order to arrive and then it'll be covered in Plaster of Paris. I made the mistake of using commercial "filler" last time - and it cost me a fortune. PoP is around a £ per kg, much cheaper. Jeff 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jeff, Awesome is the word that springs to mind, I foresee many hours spent on covering it with grass and building the walls and snow breaks! Can you buy 00 sheep with one pair of legs shorter than the other? Kind regards, Jock. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jeff, Awesome is the word that springs to mind, I foresee many hours spent on covering it with grass and building the walls and snow breaks! Can you buy 00 sheep with one pair of legs shorter than the other? Kind regards, Jock. I don't think so, Jock, but a little bit of "leg surgery" with a scalpel works wonders!!!! Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jeff, Awesome is the word that springs to mind, I foresee many hours spent on covering it with grass and building the walls and snow breaks! Can you buy 00 sheep with one pair of legs shorter than the other? Kind regards, Jock. Come on Jock, you should know that its not sheep that have one pair of legs shorted than the other, all Scotsmen know its Haggis your thinking off as our MOUNTAINS are much steeper than mere Fells! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jeff, Joking apart, I used to run a filling station in Chingford in the early mornings, before going on to my normal day job in the same group of garages. It backed on to a large reservoir with banks that sloped at c. 45 degrees and the sheep were grazed as animal lawn mowers. They always looked level and so I surmise that they must be able to articulate their legs, to keep their balance on such slopes. Perhaps heating and bending might work, otherwise you'll have to drill holes and bury the inner legs! Looking forward to you reaching that stage, Kind regards, Jock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great discussion lads, and highly relevant to the Fell. Here's a couple of pics taken in August 2013 showing the unconventional route I took from Grisedale Beck up to the Striding Edge flank of Helvellyn. I followed the wall, which can be seen ascending in the first photo. The second pic, taken on the descent to Patterdale, shows a side view and reveals the wall to be inclined at an average 35-40 degrees, locally steeper. All the way up there were sheep happily grazing in amongst the bracken! I'll be adding an extra bit at the foot of part of the Fell tomorrow, in addition to the bit at the viaduct end. When it's in, I'll sketch the approximate route of proposed "stone walls" that I'll be adding to the Fell. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'd still get rid of that steelwork Jeff, unless you've plans to return it to a (workable) garage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) That fell is massive you certainly don't do things by halves Jeff It'll look great once done Brian Edited December 1, 2015 by bri.s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) There is a video or DVD (or both) of them using steam rollers (a pair...cabled together) to roll some of the roads (Hardknott Pass?) in the fells. Suffice to say, at 1:3, they needed to be winched, as I wouldn't want to try driving a roller up that. (or down it either...) as if you caught a pebble the wrong way, you'd only stop at the bottom. The fell is impressive. My landscraping is all much lower than that- even ] only has about 14" of elevation change from Trout Beck to rail level. Long Marton is basically a plateau above Trout Beck, with the rail line near the top of it all. (the land does climb "north" of Long Marton on the railway, but not to the same extent). I don't see the reason for imbedding the storage yard in a mountain, as there is the stairwell behind that, and my wife's storage area, which is fairly sacrosant for access...I don't think I could pry it out of her possession, although it does contain one of the two wye's. James Edited December 2, 2015 by peach james 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2015 Morning James. Excellent running length shown on your latest photo. With that space I might have ended up building a 24 arch Ribblehead representation! I bet you often say "sod the S&C" and run A4s up and down at 200mph scale speeds..... (what? You DON'T?) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'd still get rid of that steelwork Jeff, unless you've plans to return it to a (workable) garage? post-13778-0-87655000-1448992977_thumb1.jpg Peter, you certainly captured the con trails from the low-flying RAF jets very well in that picture. Amazing how the new F35's can turn quickly through 90 degrees..... Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Peter, you certainly captured the con trails from the low-flying RAF jets very well in that picture. Amazing how the new F35's can turn quickly through 90 degrees..... Jeff Yeah, yeah................................. Just when I was trying to be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted December 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I've added an extra frame at the viaduct end and some additional board towards the front of the pic (below) - can anyone notice any differences? Anyway, this is the Fell as it stands - there'll be no further additions until the mod-roc arrives. I think this view gives a decent perspective, viewed from the goods yard end of the station. I can't get far enough back (at the moment, with junk lying around) to get the whole Fell in. Jeff Edited December 2, 2015 by Physicsman 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Morning James. Excellent running length shown on your latest photo. With that space I might have ended up building a 24 arch Ribblehead representation! I bet you often say "sod the S&C" and run A4s up and down at 200mph scale speeds..... (what? You DON'T?) Jeff Well, the current train is a pair of 5's (one black, one MT), with 11 on. The trains are set to a maximum speed of ~70 mph, so just a little above the line speed. The other train that has been running is the VIA LRC with 5 coaches- completely wrong, but a fun train, and very much a memory for me. If I was going to model Canadian, it would be Algoma Central in N gauge, it has an equally improbiblity in either scenario. (mind, so will the Pendo that I have on order...) I do have 2 A4's, but they are set to the same sort of speeds as everything else- even at the scale 70, they are impressive pounding through Long Marton. (I should take a video, except the plan is to relay some track today, when I get home in about an hour) If I was going to do Ribblehead, I would build it with an outdoor loop connected off the end. (giving a "long" and a "short" option, I suppose). It's all about time though, as I want to make some progress on some of the problems I know of on Long Marton, and I have other things around the house which demand fixing. (new front steps for one...and my mate next door needs a bunch of wood trimming up). Now, if I played the lotto and won the $50 million, I'd have some platelayers working for me toot sweet... James 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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