bobster Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Very nice shot there Newtz. Cheers, Bob. Edited April 2, 2015 by bobster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Walking around Newton Grove this morning, it is another cold start to the day. The fog is dense and the light is very low. On shed, simmering away, is Black 5 44871. In the background 4F 43895 is coming on shed after an evening of shunting. Edited April 2, 2015 by Newtz1981 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AireValley1962 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 That has a real sense of atmosphere - something which I always appreciate. Following with interest! Cheers, William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 That has a real sense of atmosphere - something which I always appreciate. Following with interest! Cheers, William Thank you for your wonderful comment William, as well as following with interest. It's amazing what can be achieved with a cheap smoke machine and natural light coming from a window. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Very atmospheric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 While most other people have spent Good Friday with the family, I have been busy working on Newton Grove again - this time my attention has turned to the locomotive pits. I have built the walls for 3 of the pits so far (there are 6 pits in total on the layout), each being made out plasticard sheets of Slaters 7mm brick and strengthened with 2mm plasticard. Before I started to paint and weather the pit walls I studied the look of pits that I have access too. Below are a few photos of the locomotive pit at the Victorian Goldfields Railway (Maldon, Victoria. Australia) You can see the oil stains, how black the pit walls are and also the highlights in the brickwork in some areas to. I started detailing my pit walls by spraying them in matt black paint. Once dried they were given an overall dusting with Humbrol 'Smoke' weathering powder. This was then sealed with hair spray. Once dry I mixed 30% Humbrol 'Sand' weathering powder with 70% Humbrol 'White' weathering powder to make up the dust/dirt in the brickwork. This was then applied very unevenly over the walls. Some parts were highlighted further by going over the area twice to bring out more definition. Again the walls were sprayed with hair spray and left to dry. After the walls were dry I applied Humbrol 'Gloss of Oil Stain' wash to the walls. This was applied in a downward motion, some small light streaks and others more heavy. A second application was given to certain areas to bring out more detail and show heavy oil deposits. The below photos show how the walls look after all this has been finished (Please note though that as I took these it was starting to get darker, and as a result the lighting is more blue than normal - resulting in the oil stains looking green. They actually look more mustard brown in better light.) If the oil stains dry looking too green, then I will make them darker with some Earth Brown powder. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbys65 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 How did you do the excellent photos of the fog mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 How did you do the excellent photos of the fog mate? I used a smoke machine to get the effect. By this I do not mean a small smoke generator that can be purchased in a model store, rather it is a large electric powered unit that is often used in the theater, etc. To get the effect I wanted I set the camera up and then filled the room with smoke. As the smoke started to drift across the layout I started taking photos. This raged from very thin smoke to so think that you could hardly see the models. After the photos were taken I choose the best ones to edit and upload. I hope that has been helpful to you Derbys65 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Probably not going to work well on PD, the loco shed will be housed in the lounge. I can't imagine MrsD being over impressed if she can't see the TV as well as having to put up with the sounds of Panniers and Prairies. Doesn't half look good though. BTW, there were a couple of articles in MRJ about the use of theatrical smoke. Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 I've started to experiment with puddles. I've seen ways of doing it before in magazines using glass, PVA, etc, however I thought I'd be a little creative. So I grabbed a 'Glad' resealable plastic bag, sprayed one side of it with matt black paint and then let it dry. After that I cut out a small piece and glued it black-side-down to my little test piece. I then covered the edge and a little part in the middle with talcum powder. Once it was dry and all the excess powder had been removed I gave the talcum a going over with matt black paint and a little weathering powder. The glossy side of the plastic was then cleaned with a wet cotton bud/ear cleaner. Here is the result While I can still see the edge shape of the plastic, this can and will be covered up later. In the light I think that the puddle looks very realistic. Given that the 'Glad' bag is thin and flimsy, it gives a slightly rippled effect to the puddle - which I think looks great! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Being Easter Sunday I didn't get much chance to do a lot of modelling, however this morning I was able to complete two more sets of pit walls. That is 3 pits completed now, and 3 more to build. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Well I've been busy yesterday (Easter Monday) on the layout again. This time I have been working on the pit area and shed flooring. I really wanted to break away from the ply wood look and bring the texture to that of concrete. To achieve this I have adopted a technique from Steve Fay. Steve used talcum powder on his Cardiff Canton layout and I thought that this would make a great texture for the floor of the loco pit area, where the coal dust, oil and grime had been gathering. I stared on the first 3 pits and then after they were done I covered the last 3 pits. Here are some images of how it has been coming along. And here is what it looks like when the floor is painted matt black. I think the texture looks brilliant! On another note, I have made all the walls for the pits now and they have all been painted and weathered (see above for the result of the first few). Next step with the pits is to create the flooring and then build the pit steps, which I'm thinking of doing using Balsa wood. I'll keep you all posted 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Looks great, I still get funny looks well I tell people about it but the outcome speaks for itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR CHRIS Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Top work with that talc base and the loco pit walls Jonathan, Steve's tip for the talc from Cardiff Canton build, was a really good one and it gets the effect of the oil soaked ash around loco yard pits and track a treat. Post 281 from link below for any one else who likes the effect or their yard or shed http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67423-cardiff-canton-from-inception-to-model-rail-cover/page-12 Itching to start my "Shed" project now but have to wait for the TT before finalising the plans. Keep up the pace your doing great. Edited April 7, 2015 by SMR CHRIS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Working on the shed and pit area I have made up a mix of talcum powder and PVA glue. This has been spread between the rails and either side of the track to give the representation of built up soot which has become smooth with oil, grease, etc. This (I think) will end the use of the talcum on this board, although I know I will use it in areas on board #2 as well. Final painting with overall matt black will take place when it is all dry and then I can start to weather this board, get the pit walls in and work out how to make a start on the shed building - as it will be the first scratch built model I've produced. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Using the Humbrol 'Rust' wash paint I have given all the rails and chairs a going over on board #1 (pits and shed). The result looks amazing!! I took a few photos of the 4F to show how the rails now look. I think that this is starting to look very very realistic indeed. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Newtz The track looks great, but you want to do up the crankpin on the rear wheel before it falls out! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Looking great, a shed area can never be to dirty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Newtz The track looks great, but you want to do up the crankpin on the rear wheel before it falls out! Best Simon Hi Simon, Ironically they are in as far and as tight as they will go. Bachmann Brassworks supplied the loco like this. It may have been the same with other models of that tie, as this was one of the first RTR 7mm locos they had produced by the then 'new' San Cheng company. They look big and out of scale, etc, however for now I can live with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Sorry about the lack of posts everyone. I have been working on the layout, mainly adding weathering detail to the ballast, etc. Nothing that I can put photos up for anyway. I'm also getting closer to my UK visit and with work on top of that I haven't had much time to do a lot of modelling over the past month. However, this will change soon, so stay tuned 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewtz19 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I've set up Newton Grove again into its completed length. Here are a few photos to wet your tastes. More work to follow soon. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNewtz19 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I am commissioning Kirtley Models to produce the shed for Newton Grove. Unfortunately this will not be completed until August 2016 due to their workload, however it will be worth the wait. I'll probably make a mock-up shed between now and then just to satisfy myself in the interim. I've never scratch built before, however I'll have a go at something less complex as a first attempt. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR CHRIS Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Looking good. The B/W are great but some colour photos so we can see the weathering in the yard to full effect would be nice for your next post. Re the shed commission I'm sure it will be great but will it be in time for you to exhibit the layout ? (mentioned in an early post)? Keep up the good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm keen to have a really good photographic backscene produced for Newton Grove. What I want is something similar to the background of what Rose Grove has in the 1960s. Can anyone give me advice of who I can contact in order to capture photos for a back scene or a company that produces a wide range of photo backscenes that could be ideal to use. Many Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtz1981 Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Looking good. The B/W are great but some colour photos so we can see the weathering in the yard to full effect would be nice for your next post. Re the shed commission I'm sure it will be great but will it be in time for you to exhibit the layout ? (mentioned in an early post)? Keep up the good work Here are some colour photos for you Chris The one that got away - 45562 Alberta 48773 stands over the pit with 46521 beside her. Edited June 16, 2015 by Newtz1981 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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