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If it is not too difficult! Having trouble sorting the photo out.....EDIT: I meant the overhead view......interesting diamond, that.

 

Is it the usual mish-mash of industries?

 

Thanks for posting this.

 

Best, Pete.

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This trackwork seems a bit extreme for a simple approx 5 spot spur

http://binged.it/1CeQkpc

 

It's so they can be serviced by both NS and CSX.  Rates are much cheaper when you've got access to more than one railroad.  The line passing closest to the industry is CSX's industrial lead, while everything further away is part of NS's yard,

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If it is not too difficult! Having trouble sorting the photo out.....EDIT: I meant the overhead view......interesting diamond, that.

 

Is it the usual mish-mash of industries?

 

Thanks for posting this.

 

Best, Pete.

 

It's prototypically normal.  Standard manganese frogs, switched points due to the shallow angle and the required easer rails on the shallow vees.  OTOH I don't think any RTR diamond has those normal features.

 

Andy

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...with plenty of switches, wyes and diamonds?

 

Feast your eyes on Hopewell, Virginia.  It's even got a diamond operated by a pair of hand-throw switches.

 

http://binged.it/1yKcv3R

 

If anyone's interested in a color-coded map to untangle this mess of tracks into its' NS and CSX components, I could do that.

 

I like how, if you zoom in, a whole new yard and plant appears.

 

Adrian

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And a river swing bridge to the NW

 

Yes, over the Appomattox River. There appears of be a 40' clearance and a nominal 6' dredged channel on the river all the way to Petersburg, so the swing bridge is necessary (only 10' clearance when closed).

 

Relevant chart: http://www.charts.noaa.gov/PDFs/12252.pdf

 

Adrian

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And a river swing bridge to the NW

 

A swing bridge that still has a bridge-tender, no less!  Its' normal position is open for river traffic, only lining for the railroad when necessary.  You'll hear trains talking to him on the radio from time to time.

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I like how, if you zoom in, a whole new yard and plant appears.

 

Adrian

 

Yeah it's an ethanol plant that was built around 2010.  Unfortunately the company went out of business sometime shortly thereafter and it never went into operation.  Recently the Hopewell city council voted on incentives to bring in another company to take the plant over and it seems to be running now.  NS is the only one that works it though so I've never been in there.

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I finally got chance to open the OP link at home just now... never mind crazy industries and rails everywhere.... I went across the town a bit and found THIS... :O :o :O

 

Screenshot2_zpskfi33eq9.png

 

What is a Roundabout doing in N. America...????? Do they know what it is?? Doesn't it confuse them??? :scratchhead:  :jester:

 

Coat on, left the building........ :stinker:

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We have a lot in New Jersey, Jordan....they call them “Circles”.

 

What caused  confusion was when the NJ DoT changed the rules from “entry priority” to priority from the left...

 

 

Best, Pete

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What is a Roundabout doing in N. America...????? Do they know what it is?? Doesn't it confuse them??? :scratchhead:  :jester:

 

Coat on, left the building........ :stinker:

Dunno about the US, but they seem to be spreading in Canada. At one point I think there was only one roundabout in the whole of Nova Scotia, the Armdale Rotary, but there's a few more these days:

http://novascotia.ca/tran/roundabout/roundabout.asp

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There have been roundabouts/traffic circles in various bits of North America for a long time, but the rules tend to be variable which makes them somewhat confusing to use.

Long Beach, CA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=33.78958,-118.142689&spn=0.002613,0.002401&t=h&z=19

Philadelphia, PA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=39.957472,-75.171263&spn=0.004821,0.004801&t=h&z=18

Rumford, ME https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=44.547709,-70.549283&spn=0.001585,0.002401&t=h&z=19

The new standard pattern one that has been showing up in Ontario https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=44.261802,-76.774709&spn=0.0016,0.002401&t=h&z=19

 

There was one in Kingston, ON in my youth, but it was replaced by traffic lights in the '70s because it confused too many people.

 

Also, a lot of towns had a central park/square (which may have been round), so you got something resembling a roundabout.

Goderich, ON https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=43.742798,-81.7114&spn=0.003228,0.004801&t=h&z=18

Gettysburg, PA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=39.830707,-77.231124&spn=0.001716,0.002401&t=h&z=19

Sunbury, PA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=40.86211,-76.793747&spn=0.00338,0.004801&t=h&z=18

 

Adrian

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The grief that arises from introducing traffic circles in the US arises from the rules for the 4-way Stop, which is the normal for unsignalled crossroads with no major route.  The 4-way rule includes the requirement to give way to the RIGHT, once there is stationary traffic at the Stop signs. Clearly for RHS driving, a roundabout needs give way to the LEFT to work properly.

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I finally got chance to open the OP link at home just now... never mind crazy industries and rails everywhere.... I went across the town a bit and found THIS... :O :o :O

 

Screenshot2_zpskfi33eq9.png

 

What is a Roundabout doing in N. America...????? Do they know what it is?? Doesn't it confuse them??? :scratchhead:  :jester:

 

Coat on, left the building........ :stinker:

 

Been severely scared by the Somerville Circle in PA where traffic entering the circle off 202 at like 70mph has priority over you on the circle - have also seen them in Florida as well.

Paul........

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What would you makeof a visit to Swindon*, I wonder?

 

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* Other locations, e.g. Hemel Hempstead, High Wycombe, Colchester, with similar magic roundabouts are also available.

 

So that's what the remains of the stuff you can see from space that the Incas did, must have been.

 

Andy

 

ex Hemel Hempstead roundabout veteran.

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What is a Roundabout doing in N. America...????? Do they know what it is?? Doesn't it confuse them??? :scratchhead:  :jester:

We have a lot in New Jersey, Jordan....they call them “Circles”.

There have been roundabouts/traffic circles in various bits of North America for a long time, but the rules tend to be variable which makes them somewhat confusing to use.

Long Beach, CA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=33.78958,-118.142689&spn=0.002613,0.002401&t=h&z=19

Philadelphia, PA https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=39.957472,-75.171263&spn=0.004821,0.004801&t=h&z=18

Rumford, ME https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=44.547709,-70.549283&spn=0.001585,0.002401&t=h&z=19

Famously:

 

Columbus Circle in New York City.

Dupont Circle in Washington DC. This one has 10 spokes and is hectic, plus Connecticut Ave goes straight through underneath. There are several others in Washington (Logan Circle, Washington Circle etc) thanks to Pierre L'Enfant's Masonic street plan. 

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