eastwestdivide Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Le Tour de Sheffield, calling at platforms 1 and 2. This morning (4 Apr), and still there this afternoon: Thanks to my other half for the photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Looks like split the points, judging by the google maps aerial view of the layout and the fact that the headlights are on in this direction, but you know how people disapprove of wild speculation. My other half asked me how it happened, but as I wasn't there and she was... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 spilt the points? Split his cycling shorts for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2015 Removed a GPLS too and split some signal cables apparently. (I've seen a photo of the signal looking very unwell) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Completely off topic but I've always thought certain items of rolling stock looked like they have a sort of face, this one looks as if it's grinning mildly. I presume this was coming in as an ECS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Not wild speculation on my part, more an informed guess.. I did work there for three years edit: sorry if that sounds a bit snappy...but I rarely mention my days there compared to the Cornish ones None taken! It was a comment about speculation in general, rather than implying yours was wild... have to say in this case it does look obvious. Completely off topic but I've always thought certain items of rolling stock looked like they have a sort of face, this one looks as if it's grinning mildly.I presume this was coming in as an ECS? I was trying to work it out - the news about the disruption was on the web by about 0730, and I can't see any cancelled passenger or ECS workings in realtimetrains, which shows movements using the affected platform 2 until 0545ish, so it looks like a movement to/from the sidings. For grinning rolling stock - can't see it on this one, but try the 365s that run out of Kings Cross. If you were driving this, what's the first thing you'd notice that something was amiss? Noise from where the bogies meet the coach, or from the track? Or the fact that the train is moving in a direction about 10 degrees off where it's pointing? Or what? Is the nearer coach lifted/tilted a bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted April 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2015 Removed a GPLS too and split some signal cables apparently. (I've seen a photo of the signal looking very unwell) In what sense "unwell"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Looks like split the points, judging by the google maps aerial view of the layout and the fact that the headlights are on in this direction, but you know how people disapprove of wild speculation. My other half asked me how it happened, but as I wasn't there and she was... There are at least three ways that a vehicle could derail at facing points: By 'flange climbing' at a point blade which does not fit correctly to the stock rail (possibly due to wear of the stock rail or the wear pattern of the switch blade). By 'splitting' the points where the points are not closed properly and both wheels run along the stock rails and derail as the stock rails widen. By 'switch reversal' where the point blades move between wheelsets so that some wheels go one way and some the other. You need to know WHAT actually happened before you can progress to HOW and WHY it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks, that's a useful explanation - as a layman, I was using the term "splitting" just to mean different parts of the train taking different routes. My other half went through again last weekend, and said there was a STOP sign on the track where the derailment had been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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