844fan Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: 11 hours ago, Michael Edge said: If I ever build it for Herculaneum Dock I'll have to make some sort of guess about the colour, although it looks black in later photos at Monks Ferry. I had the same problem with its successor, the RH 48DS, but eventually decided it was probably in Ruston's standard green livery. I tried a few online B/W to color converters and they for no explanation show her in a rusty Amber. Granted another photo I tried which to my eye is a Southern Livery like the Drummond era only gets the color of the trees right. Says I need a premium version to color any of the rest of the photo. Green might suit her a Brunswick or maybe racing green? 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: WALKER'S FALSTAFF ALES I don't think that's been about for decades! ISTR it was seen as the "dockers drink". Still a few pub signs about in some of the pubs. A couple of old images here. https://www.bridgemanimages.com/en-US/noartistknown/police-try-to-control-fans-in-the-streets-of-liverpool-before-the-premiere-of-the-beatles-film-a/photograph/asset/5100946 https://www.prints-online.com/social-liverpool-pub-4366206.html Jason What on the rails are you on about? That besides being in Liverpool has not a single connection to Polly. Also my first quote of your post was a mistake and I didn't try to mess with it but erased it as best I could. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 he's talking about the advert on the bridge in the background 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, sir douglas said: he's talking about the advert on the bridge in the background Ah I see. Well I was fully concerned with the loco, so I never even thought about that. Sorry Steamport, hope it didn't sound rude I was just flummoxed. Yeah definitely file that under flummoxed. Anyway, that photo I posted is the best colorized picture I can get at the moment but I don't even think it was partly accurate just looks like a sepia tone filter. But I will keep looking. Any one got any thoughts? Oh right I did do another of the front view photo here is it. Blasted watermark I do what I want when the image in question is creative commons. Ownership I respect hence my not posting the photo I tried where only the trees got color. It is not for sharing per wishes of the owner and I just want to add it to my personal collection no harm intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 12 hours ago, 844fan said: Ah I see. Well I was fully concerned with the loco, so I never even thought about that. Sorry Steamport, hope it didn't sound rude I was just flummoxed. Yeah definitely file that under flummoxed. Anyway, that photo I posted is the best colorized picture I can get at the moment but I don't even think it was partly accurate just looks like a sepia tone filter. But I will keep looking. Any one got any thoughts? Oh right I did do another of the front view photo here is it. Blasted watermark I do what I want when the image in question is creative commons. Ownership I respect hence my not posting the photo I tried where only the trees got color. It is not for sharing per wishes of the owner and I just want to add it to my personal collection no harm intended. Don't worry about it. 🙂 If you look at the buildings at the time then I would say a coating of filth was the only colour you would see. So the "sepia toned" print probably isn't far off. With it getting an occasional clean like the photo above. I would say this is it's normal condition, filthy. https://www.flickr.com/photos/16896988@N08/6563993025 Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 19/04/2022 at 06:12, Steamport Southport said: Don't worry about it. 🙂 If you look at the buildings at the time then I would say a coating of filth was the only colour you would see. So the "sepia toned" print probably isn't far off. With it getting an occasional clean like the photo above. I would say this is it's normal condition, filthy. https://www.flickr.com/photos/16896988@N08/6563993025 Jason I suspect it a bit like Nicotine, I know that horrid stuff can stain glass and such and give it a gross tooth rot color. She was a shunter after all and we know they weren't as clean as engines running mainline services. Still given just how much she did you would think a little more respect would allowed. Ah lazyness I suppose on some lines, not everyone understands a engine well. Even crews sometimes just gave them little respect, hence why boiler explosions happened often as not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago A few months ago post came up on my FB feed from a Liverpool local history page about Monks coal wharf but the odd thing is that it referred to Polly as Dolphin, a name ive not seen in relation to Polly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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