Spitfire2865 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Ok, this may sound ridiculous, but Im lost. Probably months ago I wrote down a diagram and running number for some wagon type. I have no idea when or what it is, but knowing me, its a freight wagon or brake van for either early LMS or one of its constituent companies. Probably the latter due to low diagram number. Probably Midland, L&Y, or LNWR, possibly Furness even. I dont know. The note is simply D 108 12052 I really need to be more explicit on the future, but can anyone help me? Ive checked through my photograph collection and LMS Wagons Vol 1 by Essery. Also googled it multiple times, no luck. Anyone know what I made a note of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If it is of any help, PAGE 108 of the Midland Railway Wagon Diagram Book is a 15T Flat Case Wagon to Diagram D883 which went into the LMS Specially Built Wagons book as Page 34. No running numbers to hand though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 If it is of any help, PAGE 108 of the Midland Railway Wagon Diagram Book is a 15T Flat Case Wagon to Diagram D883 which went into the LMS Specially Built Wagons book as Page 34. No running numbers to hand though.No thats not it. If it was a page rather than diagram I would have scribbled down P not D. Also, never heard of a flat case wagon, so theres that too. Thanks though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 never heard of a flat case wagon, so theres that too. It's flat wagon (obviously), 18ft wb, 30ft over headstocks. No apparent body, just a floor with four sets of stanchions. A bit like a Double Bolster wagon but different. Can't see a D108 in the Midland book so it's likely to be another company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2015 With a bit of lateral thinking; BR diag 1/108. B120052. Lot 2380. Gloucester. 1952. Perhaps? Also B12052 was a Hurst Nelson unclassified mineral wagon. Just a thought. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 With a bit of lateral thinking; BR diag 1/108. B120052. Lot 2380. Gloucester. 1952. Perhaps? Also B12052 was a Hurst Nelson unclassified mineral wagon. Just a thought. Mike. No. Cant be that. I have no interest in BR so wouldnt have noted that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robday12 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I don't think it can be an L&Y wagon. Lanky diagram numbers only go to 105 as far as I am aware. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Ok so not Midland, Not Lanky, LNWR maybe? Furness? Caley even? Though I dont recall any Caley research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Diagram 108 in the Caledonian book is a WCJS 25ft 6 wheel Fish van with double doors and louvered vents set in LNWR style paneling built to run as a NPCS vehicle if that's any help. Steve Edit. It would look a bit like this but off the top of my head I think this is a similar diagram 107 30ft fish van and NOT a diagram 108 van but it gives you an idea, if you want I can go through my books and get a proper picture of the diagram 108 van later (It's 3am and I've just got up for a quick jimmy) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 LNWR D.108 is a single trolly wagon to load 25 tons, number 50000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Diagram 108 in the Caledonian book is a WCJS 25ft 6 wheel Fish van with double doors and louvered vents set in LNWR style paneling built to run as a NPCS vehicle if that's any help. Steve Edit. It would look a bit like this but off the top of my head I think this is a similar diagram 107 30ft fish van and NOT a diagram 108 van but it gives you an idea, if you want I can go through my books and get a proper picture of the diagram 108 van later (It's 3am and I've just got up for a quick jimmy) fish van.jpg Nice van but no. Not something I would have noted. LNWR D.108 is a single trolly wagon to load 25 tons, number 50000.Possibly. Do you have a photo of one? If not that LNWR wagon, Im simply stumped. Cant see a reason for me to have written down these numbers without reason, but might have to be left as a mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Do you have a photo of one? No photo, but it was a bogie well wagon with inside bearing bogies. However there is a kit of a very similar D.96 on eBay at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 No photo, but it was a bogie well wagon with inside bearing bogies. However there is a kit of a very similar D.96 on eBay at the moment. Hmm. Very strange. I wouldnt have noted a bogie wagon though. Im really lost here. No clue what I could have noted. Could D108 mean anything besides diagram to you? My first guess is that, but for all I know, it could be a serial number or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR lives on Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Another thought, have you put D108 when you were maybe thinking D103? That's a LNWR 1 Plank 18FT wagon, kit available from David Geen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Ok, this may sound ridiculous, but Im lost. Probably months ago I wrote down a diagram and running number for some wagon type. I have no idea when or what it is, but knowing me, its a freight wagon or brake van for either early LMS or one of its constituent companies. Probably the latter due to low diagram number. Probably Midland, L&Y, or LNWR, possibly Furness even. I dont know. The note is simply D 108 12052 I really need to be more explicit on the future, but can anyone help me? Ive checked through my photograph collection and LMS Wagons Vol 1 by Essery. Also googled it multiple times, no luck. Anyone know what I made a note of? Where were you when the note was made? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Where were you when the note was made? At my desk at Uni. Probably searching the internet and noted it down. Mark Saunders Another thought, have you put D108 when you were maybe thinking D103? That's a LNWR 1 Plank 18FT wagon, kit available from David GeenCouldntve been. It was distinctly an 8 rather than a 3, and at the time I had already bought a David Geen D103 kit. And looking at my photos of the type, none come up with that number, not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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