RMweb Gold JohnR Posted February 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2016 Does anyone know if the Tavern Cars were used on commuter services? I know they were built for West of England and Bournemouth services - but what happened towards the end of their life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavy Man Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 The Bullied designed Tavern Car sets after considerable public criticism were converted to more conventional looking catering vehicles from June 1950 beginning with the Restraunt Cars which were converted to composite dining saloons in 1950/51. The first vehicle to be converted was 7836. The Tavern Cars were converted to conventional kitchen/buffet cars from 1959. The first two converted were coaches 7892 and 7896. They were withdrawn between November 1966 and December 1967. When new in 1949 these sets were not confined to the Southern and were allocated to trains such as The Master Cutler and The Norfolkman to mention just two. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Some of the kitchen/buffet cars ended their days in Waterloo-Exeter sets hauled by Warships, with others on the Bournemouth line. The composite open diners were not necessarily paired with them towards the end. 34044_PirbrightJct_1730-Wloo-Bmouth_17-9-66 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr S7836S_SotonC_20-5-67 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Cracking photo at Pirbright Junction - ex-Tavern set car, plus green Mark 2 and a WR Pressed Steel DMU too. The SW mainline in the mid-60s is a source of endless interest. Thanks for sharing the photo, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted February 29, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2016 So thats a No - none of them ended up on commuter trains. Someone has put up something on twitter saying they were, and when I contradicted him, he was adamant.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Why were you bothering to read anything on Twatter that was supposedly railway related? P.S. sorry that should have read Titter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2016 A tavern car could be a popular novelty item on a heritage railway.Do there exist any suitable Bulleid coaches that could form the basis of a conversion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2016 A tavern car could be a popular novelty item on a heritage railway.Do there exist any suitable Bulleid coaches that could form the basis of a conversion? Anything is possible but you'd need to chop up two Bachmann Bulleids to get enough windows to make one, then join 10 or 11 short bits together to make each side. Chances of getting it all together straight? Not terribly good, I'd think. Easier to overlay one with etched sides. J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 A tavern car could be a popular novelty item on a heritage railway.Do there exist any suitable Bulleid coaches that could form the basis of a conversion? there are kit for the coaches By Comet models S11a Original Tavern Kitchen Car S11b Original Tavern Trailer Car S14a Rebuilt Tavern Kitchen Car S14b Rebuilt Tavern Trailer Car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2016 A tavern car could be a popular novelty item on a heritage railway.Do there exist any suitable Bulleid coaches that could form the basis of a conversion? Do a Southern Pride bits and either Comet or Bill Bedford Sides kit build. Comet sides are shaped (or at least they were the last time I looked). Or hack any old Baccy Bulleid (M & C are cheap on Ebay), use Comet sides and bits, consult the prototype pics and do your thing. If you find a suitable green paint for the job then please let me know. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Marc Models ( www.marcmodels.co.uk/html/bullied_tavern_cars.html ) do them R-T-R if you want! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2016 Anything is possible but you'd need to chop up two Bachmann Bulleids to get enough windows to make one, then join 10 or 11 short bits together to make each side. Chances of getting it all together straight? Not terribly good, I'd think. Easier to overlay one with etched sides. J. I was really thinking of reproducing a tavern car full-size on a real life preserved railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2016 Comet w I was really thinking of reproducing a tavern car full-size on a real life preserved railway My advice won't be any good then. If you feel rich you could have one built for you Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 So thats a No - none of them ended up on commuter trains. Someone has put up something on twitter saying they were, and when I contradicted him, he was adamant.... Possibly ??, a confusion of words. Commuter = Suburban = Surbiton ??. A re-built, ex -'Tavern' RKB was, normally, included in the formation of the Surbiton - Okehampton 'Motorail' Car Carrier service. Seen here, second vehicle from loco. http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276409/Article/images/27455942/10551838-large.jpg http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Revolution-taking-place-southern-region/story-27455942-detail/story.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2016 Possibly ??, a confusion of words. Commuter = Suburban = Surbiton ??. A re-built, ex -'Tavern' RKB was, normally, included in the formation of the Surbiton - Okehampton 'Motorail' Car Carrier service. Seen here, second vehicle from loco. http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276409/Article/images/27455942/10551838-large.jpg http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Revolution-taking-place-southern-region/story-27455942-detail/story.html Oh that was helpful. That would have been from about '63 then although there were several Taverns were there not. I hadn't really identified that coach in that train so thanks. Apologies for going way OT. Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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