37672 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Hello, A couple of these turned up today... Along with some finescale wheels for a loco that will be used on the layout... I said I wouldn't be working on stock until the layout was finished, but it would be good to have at least one loco up and running for when it is done. I'll start another thread with info and progress on this new project. Today I have been mainly painting bits of the framework inside the East Kernick loading area. These areas will be pretty much inaccesible to a paint brush shortly, so it needs to be done now. I'll post some pictures when I've applied a couple of coats. Cheers. Kevin. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Evening, A few days off work as meant I've been able to make some more progress. The painting of the "steelwork" at East Kernick is complete, so I will be able to start the next stage of the structure soon. Shortly after this turned up for clearence tests. This is one of the Rail Express limited editions, which very rarely comes out of its box. Which brings me on to my next topic. I have decided to work on two locos for the layout, initially. These will be 50039 and 37672, the former having spent some time on clay duties during the late 80's. I think at the time 39 was restricted to local work from Laira. The condition that I am going to try and reproduce is as I photographed it during 1988 at Old Oak Common, shortly after it was reallocated from Laira, although it will probably be a bit more workstained. A second hand loco has been sourced. It's got a few bits of external damage here and there but nothing that can't be fixed, but mechanicaly it is sound - well it was. First job was to remove all detailing parts and strip back the paint to the plastic. I have a long list of things that I plan to do to (hopefully) improve the model, with the usual detailing parts from Shawplan, etc, but I also plan a few more unusual mods too. Most of the initial work has been on the bogies, but I have also started on the body. I've opened out the steps below the cab door, as I think these are too shallow, cut away where the hand brake lever will go and removed the lifting eyes. Also I have removed the sharp edge of the tumblehome below the cabside windows, as I think this is far to exagerated on the model. The bogies have replacement wheelsets of the correct diameter, and I have decided to completely change the way the bogies are held together to allow fitting of fine detail in the correct positions. All of the original representation of the brake shoes and rods have been removed, as have the secondary suspension springs. New brake gear from Penbits is being fitted, with one side of one bogie completed so far. The Penbits kit looks very fiddly, but I have to say the quality is very good and so far everything has gone together easily and it fits perfecty to the class 50 bogie frame. The reason for going to these lengths is because of the small size of my layout, every detail counts! So far I am very pleased with the Penbits kit, which is just as well as I have another kit waiting for the 37. Cheers, Kevin. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompeydave Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Where has this been hiding? Just discovered this thread. Looks really good already , will certainly follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Where has this been hiding? Just discovered this thread. Looks really good already , will certainly follow. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Just a quick update this evening. Brakes now fitted on both sides of the first bogie. Just needs tidying up a bit. Next is the secondary suspension and brake lines. Cheers, Kevin. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Evening, Just a quick update. Work has been progressing on 50039, but still lots to do yet. A couple of snaps attached. Cheers, Kevin. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2017 Love the look of the chassis improvements, I’m seriously giving thought to using one to upgrade my last remaining 8 axle drive chass 37 chassis (for which I have a more recent bodyshell that I am in the process of detailing and repainting to Tre Pol and Pen in large logo grey). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Love the look of the chassis improvements, I’m seriously giving thought to using one to upgrade my last remaining 8 axle drive chass 37 chassis (for which I have a more recent bodyshell that I am in the process of detailing and repainting to Tre Pol and Pen in large logo grey). Thanks. They are very good kits. If you model in EM or P4 Penbits do a full suspension kit for 37s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 A quick update on 50039 and some recent pics. The majority of the mods to the body are done, just small details to add and a bit of tidying up here and there. I've now started on the underframe detail. The fuel tank has been modified and details added. Similarly the battery boxes have been detailed and various pipes and cylinders around them have been added. The battery box on the "A" side of the loco has been swapped for one from a Lima model, as the Hornby version is the wrong size. The detail around the compressors has yet to be started, as have the buffer beams. Some compromise is being made on the fine details in the interests of durability, as this will be a working model. A lot of the underframe detail will not be visible during normal operation, but this kind of detailing is a part of modelling that I really enjoy, so for me that is reason enough for it to be added. The fan and grille will be added after the model has been painted. Ready for the speedo cable to be attached from the bogie - this will be done during the final stages of assembly. The plan is to have the loco ready for the Basingstoke show in March where it will be working on Portland for one of the days, probably Saturday, fingers crossed. Cheers, Kevin. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Always good to see a 50 being modified Looks great Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 A few pictures of recent progress on 50039... The ETS trunking has been completed at both ends. The steps over the buffers have been added. Plus a shot showing the engine room extractor cowl, number 2 end exhaust ports and the lowered roof panel edges. These were done months ago but I don't think I have shown them. Rivets and fastenings yet to be added. Cheers, Kevin. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2018 That loco is absolutely stunning! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The PH steps do make a world of difference imo and the loco is looking excellent! cheers Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 That loco is absolutely stunning! Thank you, much appreciated. Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 The PH steps do make a world of difference imo and the loco is looking excellent! cheers Will Thank you Will. I'm radpidly approaching the part I'm dreading - painting. Yes the PH steps are good, but I found the step on driver's side needed reducing in width a bit. Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Wow! that's some stunning work on the class 50, looking forward to seeing it painted. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Fantastic 50! Looking forward to seeing it finished. Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Wow! that's some stunning work on the class 50, looking forward to seeing it painted. Steve. Fantastic 50! Looking forward to seeing it finished. Best regards, Jeremy Thanks Steve and Jeremy. Fingers crossed the painiting goes ok. There's a few more bits to add yet, but it's not far off now. Cheers, Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have only just seen this thread for the first time. What superb modelling and I was left speechless after seeing the detailing in that class 50, one picture after another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 I have only just seen this thread for the first time. What superb modelling and I was left speechless after seeing the detailing in that class 50, one picture after another. Thank you Andy. This is the first model I have worked on for quite a few years, so I'm still getting back into it really. One thing I've noticed is my eyesight is not as good as it used to be! Cheers, Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 With just roof rivet detail to add and a general tidy up required, hopefully this will be the final update before painting starts. The ladders below the buffer steps have been added. On my model these are fixed to the bufferbeam, whereas the steps over the buffers are fixed to the body. In reality the ladders are fixed to the steps and the bufferbeam, but that would make it impossible to separate the body from the chassis. Lamp irons and windscreen washer nozzles have also been added. First to be painted will be the underframe, then the body and finally the bogies. One bogie still needs to be rebuilt and have the brake grear added, and both need brake pipes and guard irons. However, these are relatively simple jobs and I will be much more confident of meeting my March deadline once the painting is complete. Cheers, Kevin. The ladders are 0.3mm wire loops. Holes drilled into the top of the bufferbeam, brackets at the bottom of the bufferbeam and epoxy glue help secure the ladders. The lamp irons are scratch built from plasticard and are stronger than they look. The track curves slightly here, which is why the bogie looks off centre. An idea of how the loco will look when depositing or collecting wagons from the yet to be finished Trethosa loading shed. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2018 Looking very nice! What did you use to replace the Hornby body side grills? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Looking very nice! What did you use to replace the Hornby body side grills? Thanks. I used Plastruct 1mm hexagonal rod. This works if you want the grilles in the closed position, which for my layout is how they would have been most of the time. Most class members seemed to have some slats stuck in the open position. On 50039 this happened on the B side only, with all slats properly closed on the A side. The open slats have been modelled using 0.3mm thick plasticard. This picture shows the B side with two slats stuck open near the top of the grilles: https://www.flickr.com/photos/116535434@N04/16049900748/in/faves-124903335@N08/ This picture (when viewed full size) of 50002 shows the grilles quite nicely when in the closed position. They have a zig-zag cross section which is represented by two faces of the hexagonal rod: https://www.flickr.com/photos/817foxhound/13899117452/in/faves-124903335@N08/ Cheers, Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 The class 50 looks amazing! How did you do the lamp irons? Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37672 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) The class 50 looks amazing! How did you do the lamp irons? Steve. Thanks Steve. The lamp irons are made from 0.3mm by 0.5mm plastic strip fixed together with plastic weld. These are then fixed onto very thin slices of 1.1mm round rod. The sketch shows an exploded view of the component parts (not to scale!). 1 = slice of 1.1mm diameter rod 2 = strengthening piece of 0.3mm x 0.5mm strip 3 & 4 = 0.3mm x 0.5mm strips. The strengthening piece is a compromise, as this will be a working model it has to be reasonably durable. Cheers, Kevin. Edited January 31, 2018 by 37672 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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