davidw Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Going rather well! You might like this pic below though.... Dry run to fit everything together, prior to mixing another bit of araldite together to make the joints between smokebox and cab to the boiler moulding. It's coming together nicely, even if I say so myself! 60506_build_L_25686-9a.jpg Here's the running plate for 60500, though until I have a suitable cab, progress on this one will be rather slow. I can deal with the valve gear side of things for both locos though, so the bodywork will take a back seat. 60500_running plate_25690a.jpg Onwards and upwards..... A4 non corridor tender Tim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 A4 non corridor tender Tim? A spare Bachmann one from an A1, ex 60147 (judging by the shade of green). The tender it came with is now behind my stalled "Waverley" model. HTH, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Looks to me like you've done this sort of thing before..... BTW, I have at last started to prepare moulding boxes for those two recent domes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 Looks to me like you've done this sort of thing before..... Somewhere in the dim and distant past; you may well be right! I've found a method, possibly done by yourself too, to thicken the leading ends of the frame extensions in order to prevent breakage. It'll be easier to take a pic than describe, so that's a job for later... BTW, I have at last started to prepare moulding boxes for those two recent domes. Ah fantastic, I shall lok forward to those! Incidentally, I've had an idea regarding the dome for the dia.117 boiler on the A2/3 as well, but it needs further investigation before I'm certain it'll work. There might be another dome master winging its way to you soon if it works out! The same goes for the rimmed chimney, which I'm nearly there with.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Any updates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 A timely update.... I've not had a chance to stop at each stage as much as I'd have liked to have done, so these "almost finished" views will have to do. This particular model has seen a change in my approach to modelling these highly varied locos, on account of the various new parts that have become available since doing 60505. The resin cab has allowed something much closer to the real thing, together with a much improved smokebox; modified from the A1/1 type Graeme produced. The little detail etch Morgan drew up is most excellent and has sorted out the area around the steam chest. I will deal with the other little details it provided in a later post. So, to the pictures. The smokebox and cab got painted today, thanks to the speedy nature of car paints, resulting in being able to add the second coat of paint (Precision BR post-1954 green) on top within an hour or two. Once that has dried, I'll sort out the cabside decoration, before it goes into the weathering shops. A close-up of the pipework and sandboxes. I should point out that the snifting valve is scratchbuilt, since I need a few for my N2s and therefore wanted to see if I could make them instead of buying them in. The result is something that will not snap off, on account of it having a wire pin all the way through. The smokebox pipework was a tad fiddly, but went OK otherwise. Note to self: must remove that cylinder lining ASAP..... Final additions will be the buffers, front footsteps and lubricators, all of which I've left off until now, simply because I don't fancy damaging them through handling and all the other work going on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 A timely update.... I've not had a chance to stop at each stage as much as I'd have liked to have done, so these "almost finished" views will have to do. This particular model has seen a change in my approach to modelling these highly varied locos, on account of the various new parts that have become available since doing 60505. The resin cab has allowed something much closer to the real thing, together with a much improved smokebox; modified from the A1/1 type Graeme produced. The little detail etch Morgan drew up is most excellent and has sorted out the area around the steam chest. I will deal with the other little details it provided in a later post. So, to the pictures. The smokebox and cab got painted today, thanks to the speedy nature of car paints, resulting in being able to add the second coat of paint (Precision BR post-1954 green) on top within an hour or two. Once that has dried, I'll sort out the cabside decoration, before it goes into the weathering shops. 60506_build_L_27007a.jpg 60506_build_R_27010a.jpg A close-up of the pipework and sandboxes. I should point out that the snifting valve is scratchbuilt, since I need a few for my N2s and therefore wanted to see if I could make them instead of buying them in. The result is something that will not snap off, on account of it having a wire pin all the way through. The smokebox pipework was a tad fiddly, but went OK otherwise. Note to self: must remove that cylinder lining ASAP..... 60506_build_L_27013a.jpg Final additions will be the buffers, front footsteps and lubricators, all of which I've left off until now, simply because I don't fancy damaging them through handling and all the other work going on! Looking really good pity about Bachmann s too heavy/out of proportion cartazzi. You shouldn't show me thinks like that I get expensive thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Looking really good pity about Bachmann s too heavy/out of proportion cartazz You shouldn't show me thinks like that I get expensive thoughts I've just realised you meant Cartazzi... Autocorrect being a swine as usual! Yes, it's not the greatest, is it.....I've got plans to replace it on my model of Waverley, but they're a way off yet. Once the Wolf is finished, I'll be turning my attention to 60500 again. Oh and I'm happy to give ideas and expensive thoughts to anyone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted March 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2016 I've just realised you meant Cartazzi... Autocorrect being a swine as usual! Yes, it's not the greatest, is it.....I've got plans to replace it on my model of Waverley, but they're a way off yet. Once the Wolf is finished, I'll be turning my attention to 60500 again. I modified the cartazzi a few years ago and described it on the LNER forum. I think the thread was called "sorting the Bachmann cartazzi". I don't seem to have any photos of the work in progress, but here's the finished article under Steady Aim (the boiler is only perched, not fixed down). It uses the Hornby A3 etc cartazzi, extended between spring and footstep, and with a new plastic card "nose". This is the modification that was needed to the chassis. One loses the fixing screws at the rear, leaving only the front screw to connect body and chassis, but both Sayajirao and Auld Reekie have been like this for years without problems. I dare say some kind of keeper could be fashioned at the rear. I also used the Hornby A3 (etc) underframe on the tender, removing the footplate from the Bachmann body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I modified the cartazzi a few years ago and described it on the LNER forum. I think the thread was called "sorting the Bachmann cartazzi". I don't seem to have any photos of the work in progress, but here's the finished article under Steady Aim (the boiler is only perched, not fixed down). It uses the Hornby A3 etc cartazzi, extended between spring and footstep, and with a new plastic card "nose". P1320707.jpg This is the modification that was needed to the chassis. One loses the fixing screws at the rear, leaving only the front screw to connect body and chassis, but both Sayajirao and Auld Reekie have been like this for years without problems. I dare say some kind of keeper could be fashioned at the rear. P1320711.jpg I also used the Hornby A3 (etc) underframe on the tender, removing the footplate from the Bachmann body. P1270368.jpg I think I saw your work on the LNER forum. Any chance of further details? or picture of the completed locos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Leading on from this, can anyone advise where I can obtain etched class Gresley A1 cab sidesheets?-I do not want to use the cast metals ones I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Leading on from this, can anyone advise where I can obtain etched class Gresley A1 cab sidesheets?-I do not want to use the cast metals ones I have. Sadly you and many others have the same problem. The only ones I am aware of are by DJH who do not sell spares. PDK may ? as they also do the relevant etchings , if the prices for their Tenders is a indication they would be very expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted March 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2016 I think I saw your work on the LNER forum. Any chance of further details? or picture of the completed locos? Sorry, David, I can't find any work-in-progress photos, and the locos live hundreds of miles away in North Yorkshire, on my father's layout. But you'll find them on the LNER forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Sadly you and many others have the same problem. The only ones I am aware of are by DJH who do not sell spares. PDK may ? as they also do the relevant etchings , if the prices for their Tenders is a indication they would be very expensive. Thanks-I will look into this. DJH were amusingly rude when I enquired about spares-I assumed they wanted to commit commercial suicide, and after happily buying their kits previously, decided not to deal with them again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 SEF now have the former Wills A3 - is that an etched cab? They usually do spares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 SEF now have the former Wills A3 - is that an etched cab? They usually do spares. They do-it is cast, unfortunately, and looks not quite right. Rather more positively, SEF do spares, and I have many items for detailing, plus various chassis have been upgraded, and I have an etched K3 frame set-very good in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Looking really good pity about Bachmann's too heavy/out of proportion cartazzi. You shouldn't show me things like that I get expensive thoughts Is there no longer a source of cast boxes and hangers to stick or solder onto thin sheet metal frames? Taking a mould off the Hornby tackle might be a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted March 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2016 Is there no longer a source of cast boxes and hangers to stick or solder onto thin sheet metal frames? Taking a mould off the Hornby tackle might be a way. The Comet one is a work of fiction, and I seem to remember there's something wrong with the Branchlines (?) one - overscale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 ABS do handed Cartazzi axle boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I can't remember whether Martin Finney Cartazzis are supplied as spares. They might actually be the ABS ones.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 So, finally, some serious progress on 60506. These are the views taken before weathering, which will come in a following post. I've only done two coats of red on the bufferbeam, given the state the bufferbeam is in the photos I'm working from! It's utterly filthy and you barely see any red at all.... Anyway, pictures. There's not a great deal to say, other than what these photos can do. I'll be happy to answer any queries that arise though! Finally, a gratuitous head-on shot..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 So, finally, some serious progress on 60506. These are the views taken before weathering, which will come in a following post. I've only done two coats of red on the bufferbeam, given the state the bufferbeam is in the photos I'm working from! It's utterly filthy and you barely see any red at all.... Anyway, pictures. There's not a great deal to say, other than what these photos can do. I'll be happy to answer any queries that arise though! 60506_build_L_28973a.jpg 60506_build_R_28978a.jpg 60506_build_R_28982a.jpg 60506_build_L_28983a.jpg Finally, a gratuitous head-on shot..... 60506_build_F_28986a.jpg Looks very good Tim! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 To close things (from my point of view) on 60506, here's a view from this morning, basking in some sunlight. Next to complete will be 60500, which will require a decent looking cab. Watch this space..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted June 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2016 To close things (from my point of view) on 60506, here's a view from this morning, basking in some sunlight. 60506_L_29002a.jpg Next to complete will be 60500, which will require a decent looking cab. Watch this space..... I think I need another York engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I think I need another York engine. I agree. This one would raise the tone considerably....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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