RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2012 I am debating between the above - can't afford both in time or cash! - have built a few brass and WM kits successfully and feel ready to cope with the valve gear but have heard that each kit presents some challenges despite both makers having great reputations for accuracy and refinement. No real preference in terms of prototype (although a Loch Treig appeals as a namer for Kilbrannan!) but grateful for any steers from the cognoscenti out there (apologies to Dave and Jol!), Cheers Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 What gauge do you normally model in? If P4, I'd pick the former; if OO/EM, the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Gus, I shall make no comment as I've never built the LRM K2/2 kit (just most of the the LNWR kits and the NER G1/D23). However, I am sure that a lot of advice will be forthcoming Jol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Whichever of the two is best fit for your modelling scenario is my best advice. I would be inclined toward the K2 as a character item; a long-serving Gresley type too infrequently seen in model form, and the less likely of the two classes to see a RTR model. (And guilty as charged on the failure to build a kit as yet, I really ought to be getting around to a late survivor like New England's 61759.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 24, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2012 Guys, Many thanks so far - I am veering towards the K2/2 now but will probably decide on the spot (and dependant on availability) on Saturday at Scaleforum. I have dithered over the K2 for many a year and as I am an EM'er then it is looking like that will feature on the accompanying "how I did it post!" Further advice gratefully recieved though before I call on Jol/Dave at the weekend! Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hi Gus For OO/EM there is also the option of the DMR kit for the K1 and the K1/1 Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 For OO/EM there is also the option of the DMR kit for the K1 and the K1/1 Indeed there is and I reckon it would be a much easier proposition for an EM build. Here is a OO gauge version I did a while ago.... More pictures and info can be found here Cheers....Morgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 And for comparison, here is a K2/2 that Tony Wright built, although I don't know which of the cab or tender options these are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 ^ Looks like he used the reduced height GN cab, rather than the West Highland side-window one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If you decide to go for the Bradwell kit, I'd recommend getting his BR Brake Van chassis kit as it's a great introduction to his way of thinking and should prove useful too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 ^ Looks like he used the reduced height GN cab, rather than the West Highland side-window one. IIRC, there are three cab options in the LRM K2/2 kit, the side window type, the standard GN cab and the low profile GN version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 25, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2012 Thanks for the advice fellows, all apprecated and I am veering towards the LRM K2 (side window cab for West Higghland Lines - version will be Loch Treig or Loch Arkaig). Anyone know if there are any pitfalls re tenders? I had assumed (and we know what that makes...) that the WH locos had standard GN tenders. Re the K1, I may look at the DMR version as an alternate, but the Bradwell brake van chassis is also tempting - and you can't have too many brake vans! I could do with a grey one to balance off my Connoisseur piped van I built a few years ago (wish these kits would come back...). Morgan - really must say though, your DMR K1 is gorgeous - if I can get even half as good a finish on Loch Treig/Arkaig tbd I will be well pleased (and leave her ex-works!) Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Gus, according to the notes for the LRM catalogue, the K2/2 is supplied with the Ivatt self trimming tender. Apparently they only ran with those, although one ex-works picture in photographic grey shows one coupled to a Stirling tender. Jol Edited for spelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 There are magazine reviews for kits for both; the DMR K1 by Graham Varley sometime in 1999 (I think) in the Railway Modeller and the London Road K2 by Tony Wright in BRM, don't recall the date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 There are magazine reviews for kits for both; the DMR K1 by Graham Varley sometime in 1999 (I think) in the Railway Modeller and the London Road K2 by Tony Wright in BRM, don't recall the date. I'm pretty sure the DMR K1 was reviewed in BRM, too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 26, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2012 Jol, thanks for the advice re the tender - I was reasonably sure that they all ran with the GN Ivatt one as you say and that certainly is backed up by the prototype phots I have back at home in numerous books. I think (assuming you are Jol of LRM!) I will see you at Leatherhead on Saturday! The DMR kit for the K1 is also a temptation but I think they are hard to find nowadays - does anyone know if they are still trading? An alternative may be the PDK Glen actually on reflection - but the Bradwell K1 isn't out the frame either. (And I must get started on my CR Jumbo once I get a suitable tender from Caley Coaches!) Wish I had the time and cash for everyting! Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45609 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The DMR kit for the K1 is also a temptation but I think they are hard to find nowadays - does anyone know if they are still trading? Gus, Are you sure about that? The contact info here is not that far out of date and I have exchanged e-mails with Mike Russell during the middle of last year. Give him a call if the temptation cannot be resisted. The loco you see above was only purchased from him directly at the start of 2011 Cheers....Morgan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 27, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2012 Morgan, Many thanks for the link - will give Mike a call. I have clearly got too used to the ease of Google....! Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Gus, I spoke to JR on the tellingbone this morning (his pc has suffered terminal HDD meltdown). He has one K2/2 kit in stock, which will be on the shelf at S4um. Jol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 27, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2012 Gus, I spoke to JR on the tellingbone this morning (his pc has suffered terminal HDD meltdown). He has one K2/2 kit in stock, which will be on the shelf at S4um. Jol That kind of helps finalise the decision then if JR needs a new computer! Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted September 29, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2012 And so roll on Christmas Leave when I can get started! Thanks to both John and Jol and to all for advice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted September 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2012 The DMR kit for the K1 is also a temptation but I think they are hard to find nowadays - does anyone know if they are still trading? Gus Mike Russell is definitely still trading - I believe he'll be attending the Peterborough BRM show on 20th/21st October as a Trader. HTH polybear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rannoch Moor Posted October 1, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2012 Polybear, Many thanks - I will probably get the K2 (now confirmed to be 61775 Loch Treig - nameplates ordered from Modellemaster) completed and then it will be a CR Jumbo (DJH body with Caley Coaches tender and Alan Gibson Frames). The K1 will likely be the one after that but I don't like building up too huge a stash of kits, especially as it tends to attract sceptical accusations of "wasting money" from Mrs Rannoch Moor...! Gus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benachie Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Good luck with the K2. This is the only kit I have bought and then chickened out of Just too many parts! Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Good luck with the K2. This is the only kit I have bought and then chickened out of Just too many parts! Alan Alan, lots of bits mean more fun. All I have ever given up on were projects that were doomed from the start because they were either just plain inaccurate or didn't fit together at all. One particular etched kit brand springs to mind, but we won't go there again. I used to approach Mike Clark's Masokits with some trepidation because the instructions are very detailed and a bit off putting. However, I soon learned that provided you follow them properly, everything goes together very well. Jol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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