Jonathan Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I recently found a black and white photograph of a Dean Goods pulling a long "Up" freight across Castle Hill Viaduct (or Filleigh Viaduct) on the Barnstaple to Taunton line. The photo is dated c.1928. Can anyone suggest where I might find out which member of the class this was and where members of theis class were then shedded? My own layout is set c.1947 on Dartmoor (think Yelverton and the Princetown branch and you have some idea of what I am aiming to recreate). I have numbered all my locos (including Dean Goods) to reflect those of the class which could have worked down in this area, but the photo to which I refer is the first I have come across of a member of the Dean Goods class on this particular route. Of course, there were probably many others, but how do I find out which? And is that possible? Thank you in advance. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2012 I haven't got the photo to hand but it may have been 2483 shedded at Taunton at one time.I'm sure I'll find the photo if you're stuck.I was going to model mine at one time A bit of digging found out 2483 was at Taunton in 1923, Exeter in 1914 ,Newton Abbot in 1902 and Laira in 1906.I doubt there were any shedded in Devon after WW2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 Rob, many thanks for taking the trouble to reply to my query. So, it may well have been 2483. There were certainly others as I recall seeing a photograph of a couple of the same class on passenger trains in the 1940s - crossing over at possibly Wiveliscombe, but I can't for the life of me remember where the photo was (in a book or else loose at an exhibition). Whatever the location, it was certainly on this line. Obviously the date of the photograph on Castle Hill viaduct is outside my period, and you are correct that none of the class seem to have been shedded in Devon after World War II - the nearest location I could find any for the relevant period was at St.Philip's Marsh. Do any detailed shed listings survive? I presume if they do, then not for all sheds, not for all years, not for all classes - judging by the time spread with which you illustrate 2483 from 1902-1923. Then of course one has to ensure that with the Dean Goods the loco one portrays was still in existence and had not either been scrapped or disappeared overseas on military service in either of the two world wars! Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Wild Swan published a book giving all GWR loco allocations in 1947. I've no idea if it's still in print. I'm pretty certain that none of the class were shedded west of Bristol after the war - most of them had migrated to the Cambrian system by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Jonathan - if your pic shows no top feed on the boiler, it isn't 2483. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbroad Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Taunton had an allocation of some of the 1930 batch of "2251" class 0-6-0 s, which almost certainly swept the Dean Goods away, and the GWR / BR(WR) had little use for 0-6-0 tender locos in the west country and post war just one solitary 2251 at Exeter St Davids.was the sole representative in Devon and Cornwall . 108 Dean goods were withdrawn in 1940 and the 64 (?) survivors then congregated on the Cambrian and at Bristol St Phillips Marsh where they were needed to haul diverted Bristol to south wales trains across the Severn Bridge from Sharpness to Lydney when the Severn Tunnel was shut for maintenance as until circa 1952 the Deanss were the only Tender Engines allowed across, together with 14XX qnd 2021 tanks, The bridge was later strengthened to take 43XX Moguls and the Deans migrated north to the Cambrian or east to.Swindon's scrap yard. The Taunton to Barnstaple line was largely the preserve of the Taunton 43XX as they had their cab steps cut back to fit the Southern platforms at Barnstaple Junction so I am surprised to read of Deans crossing in 1940.. I'm afraid it is pretty unlikely that any Dean Goods would have worked into the Dartmoor area in your period, or 2251 or Bulldog, Duke or Dukedog It rather looks like you are stuck with multiple varieties of Pannier Tanks and 44XX and 45XX Prairies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Kevin Robinson Noodle Books has just released a book ('William Dean - the greatest of them all', written by Jeremy Clements, and released at Warley at the weekend) which has incredible detail of the history of the Dean Goods classes. This includes allocations at 31st December 1922, 31st December 1933 and 31st December 1947 as well as individual locomotive details such as dates of boiler changes and fitting of ATC etc. I can't quote you details as I was involved in the production of the book (it would be against the terms of my involvement and confidentiality) but I can encourage you to seek it out! It's probably one of the most detailed and fascinating books I've ever read and I am not a GWR fan. What I can tell you is that there is one sentence in there which may be particularly relevant to what you are seeking, and it's a bit fishy. JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Another source of 1947 allocations is the GWR 150 book by Pat Whitehouse and David St John Thomas. Whilst of course long out of print now, it does turn up second hand on a fairly frequent basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Many thanks for taking the trouble to reply. "Fishy" eh? Very enigmatic. It suggests (and i am not "fishing" a port on the coast as a possible location. I will seek out the new book you mention. A shame I did not see this before i went off to Warley as I could have picked up a copy. Many thanks again. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2012 Found a nice photo of 2462 at Worle junction in 1948 , when based at Bristol Bath Rd looking rather delightful but grubby.Not really what you after though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizerba Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hi Jonathan The 1938 RCTS book lists the following at Taunton 2410/18/72 2527/37/78 only 2537 and 2578 lasting to BR times the others scrapped 1940. These are the only ones listed for the Newto Abbot division. Regards bizerba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeR BR (WR) Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Found a nice photo of 2462 at Worle junction in 1948 , when based at Bristol Bath Rd looking rather delightful but grubby.Not really what you after though. I'd love to see this pic. Was it on the net or in a book? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 On an earlier posting on a similar subject, I recall a Dean goods appearing at Tavvy Yard and thence to Laira. Must have been late forties, early fifties as I was on the adjacent sports field when it arrived late afternoon. There has been speculation that it arrived on a fish train of all things, from Swindon. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'd love to see this pic. Was it on the net or in a book? It's in Great Western Steam 1934-1949 by Mike Arlett and David Lockett.2462 from Bath Road shed on workmans train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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