cbeagleowner Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hi there. I am wondering whether it's possible to do a simple mod to improved the front end look of a black 5 by swapping the front bogie unit for either a patriot / scot bogie or a standard 4 bogie. I've been studying the service sheets http://www.Hornby.com/downloads/service-sheets/Hornby-service-sheets-301-351/ To see if I can work out whether this will work, but though I'd ask if anyone on here has actually done it Thanks in advance Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tender Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you want to improve the front end look it might be worth having a look at the Brassmasters Black 5 detailing kit. Depends how far you want to take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This is something I have been planning to try for some long time now,but never getting around to it though. However, I did modify the bogie setting somewhat see here- http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/62/entry-3478-kyleskus-black-fives/, which might give you some ideas. There is another later entry covering the Brass master fret that I later used to improve visual details. HTH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The bogie supplied on the 7P Patriot has one good feature, you can turn it round to leave the NEM pocket inboard, and that gives easy scope for modification and improvement so the front of it actually looks better. Doesn't the B5 still have the old swing arm bogie mounting? You would have to fit a swing arm of your own making to the Pate bogie which is designed for post mounting. Or mod the B5 to give it a bogie post - which is the better method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Torper Posted April 22, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2014 Comet do a suitable etch brass bogie for £4.50 - it allows for use of swing arm (the one Comet supply is slightly too short, use the original Hornby one) or pivot. DT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Hi there. I am wondering whether it's possible to do a simple mod to improved the front end look of a black 5 by swapping the front bogie unit for either a patriot / scot bogie or a standard 4 bogie. I've been studying the service sheets http://www.Hornby.com/downloads/service-sheets/Hornby-service-sheets-301-351/ To see if I can work out whether this will work, but though I'd ask if anyone on here has actually done it Thanks in advance Richard Use the original 5 bogie. Remove bogie from loco. Remove wheels from bogie. Saw off the "concrete slab" by keeping blade level with guard irons. cut a slot back as far as the 'ole for coupling. (It should look like a H with the botom filled in). You will need to add some lead to compensate but the visual improvement is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbeagleowner Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Thanks guys for your help - really appreciate your time and typing :-) Ronnie - I might just have a go at that :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Just doing another one. Needs more filing and matt black paint but it disappears behind the Brassmasters etch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 This is where I order some Gibson pony wheels! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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