Wayne Kinney

3 hours ago, dpgibbons said:

The clearance at the tip of the switch rail in the third pic looks rather tight - does the build require a set in the curved stock rail?

The blades are not moved all the way over, there is still a gap between switch blade and the straight stock rail.

https://www.britishfinescale.com/product-p/butanone.htm

3 hours ago, RBAGE said:

It's very quiet.

3 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said:

I would say,  that, that means work is progressing and not being interrupted by wasting time posting on here.

 

 

On 30/06/2021 at 20:56, 57xx said:

 

Stop posting and get working then!

1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Any prospects of a catch/trap point Wayne?

I'll have a few.

 

Mike.

It's certainly possible. Just concentrating on getting the diamond and slips out first

12 minutes ago, Wilton 34041 said:

I saw you had Brighton on rmweb but it's a surprise you're so close. Yes I'd like to arrange a visit if the offers still on, can I pm you?

Sure, give us a PM

Just now, 57xx said:

 

Stop posting and get working then!

3 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

 

Expensive but it seems to be the industry standard and clearly it's paying for itself now!

 

I would need to design 2034 kits and sell 3.4M before it paid for itself....but I'm ready

7 minutes ago, Harlequin said:

 

Hi Wayne,

 

This is slightly off-topic and you might have answered it already (if so profuse apologies) but, what CAD software are you using and what rendering package?

 

It's Solidworks. Bloody thing cost my £5K back in 2010 (bought for my camera accessories business) plus £1200 per year support and updates (which I cancelled back in 2016).

Think I was ripped off....

2 minutes ago, NFWEM57 said:

Wow...!

Many thanks, Patrick.

Wait until you see the double slip  

1 minute ago, KeithHC said:

So will the slips be coming out soon as well.

 

Keith

Should follow the diamond fairly quickly, although there are other jobs that go along with it like writing instructions etc...

And the casting for 1in7 Single & Double Slips....

4 minutes ago, Wayne Kinney said:

It will be cast in Nickel Silver, same as I do for the 'common crossing V frog'.

Sprue ready for casting in Nickel Silver:

1 minute ago, zr2498 said:

Hi Wayne

A great demo of what can be done (in the extreme) to curve the turnout. Have you tried the straight cast crossing on this turnout? It would be good to see and how it fits with the likely fettling as Martin pointed out in an ealier post.

Then test with some stock?

Dave

 

Hi Dave,

I haven't got that far yet as I'm working on the diamond crossing. In my example, I have kept the area around the casting straight and not cut the webbing over 4/5 sleepers. I beleive Martin's diagram showing the 0.06mm offset is only if you decide to curve through the crossing V also.

16 minutes ago, Chuffer Davies said:

Can I ask for clarification please?  Do you mean cast or do you mean 3D printed in plastic?  It looks in the drawing like this is all going to be printed.

Thanks

Frank

It will be cast in Nickel Silver, same as I do for the 'common crossing V frog'.

Just now, KeithHC said:

Hi Wayne I presume that shows the cast elements of the diamond and the other rai.s will be the normal slide in.

 

Keith

Hi Keith,

Yes that's correct

49 minutes ago, hayfield said:

 

Wayne

 

On a pure cosmetic approach with so many wanting better looking as well as performing turnouts. By putting in a set on the inside curve, the turnout looks even better than in the Raw

 

As does functional plastic fishplates ( Exactoscale or C&L), they also perform a very important job in insulating the common crossing. Namely my Finetrax turnout

Thanks John, totally agree! So many wanting better looking turnouts will put in that send bend, I'm sure!

I believe it is in the hands of the modeller/builder of the turnout. It's their railway after all

3 minutes ago, martin_wynne said:

p.s. If the switch is wider than 16.2mm/18.2mm at the toe, the switch opening will need to be increased accordingly. The usual 1.75mm opening (thickness of 20p coin) will be barely sufficient.

Agreed

46 minutes ago, martin_wynne said:

Just an easily made bend in one rail, but it makes all the difference in building a workable switch when the radii get tighter. And the template shows exactly where to put it.

Perfect! Modellers that wish to put the set bend in, whether from North, South, East or 'West of the Severn', can do so. That's the beauty of it  Even my customers from from France, Germany, Austria or US can share the same freedom to decide

Joking aside, I can certainly see the gauge narrowing when the turnout is curved. But my built in compensation into the bases overcomes this. I quote a recent review:

5 hours ago, Godders said:

I assembled the whole turnout and tested with 3 randomly picked wagons and it worked beautifully, literally as smooth as silk.

Godders has expressed interest in attempting to curve the turnout kit. It will be interesting, giving the above discussion, how he gets on and how he finds the final running of stock.

43 minutes ago, martin_wynne said:

Even at this distance from Peacehaven, I can see that the switch is under-gauge at the yellow line above.

Thanks Martin,

I agree that a set bend would certainly minimize gauge narrowing through the switch which seems to become more of an issue when curving the turnout like this.

However, I have previously mentioned a few times that I have made my own design adjustments in CAD to widen the gauge through the switch.

Peacehaven is a long way away and perhaps too far to see that the gauge in fact widens from the switch toe, not narrows. Bellow are the actual gauge measurements taken with digital callipers..

41 minutes ago, Wilton 34041 said:

Hi all,

very interesting and a great review. I'm curious to know what the rectangular box of sleepers are for half way along? Apologies if this has already been answered but they do spoil the effect of a scale turnout. 

 

Cheers,

Phil B.

Hi Phil,

Actually, I've just seen you live in Peacehaven, as I do. You are more than welcome to arrange a visit to check out the kits (masks and social distancing of course  ).

39 minutes ago, Wilton 34041 said:

I'm curious to know what the rectangular box of sleepers are for half way along? Apologies if this has already been answered but they do spoil the effect of a scale turnout. 

Martin's spot on! And yes, this get's buried under the ballast so is not seen

Thanks Godders for taking the time to build and review the kit!

Yeah, the switch blade pin hitting the webbing of the base is my fault, I forgot to move the webbing 'outwards' to give clearance, like I have with the EM and 00 Gauge kits. I've already amended this for production, thanks for spotting the error!

Nice to see you wish to try curving the turnout, I would love to see your results. I just did a small test and posted pictures of this on the other thread here:

 https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/160234-new-range-of-simple-to-assemble-00em-gauge-pointwork-kits/&do=findComment&comment=4490169

Thanks again for your time!