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you forgot kirkcaldy for platform 18! i just realised that although 10/11 and 19/1 were single platforms, the trains would be 11 or 19 northbound, 10 or 1 southbound? also remembering 14 for mk3 comfort in 47 mins or 12/13 for edin-glas central 'via shotts' in a rickety 101/107 for god-knows-how-long! i suppose, depending on the frequency the plat.17 mid road was used on a last-one-in/next-one-out basis? would save a station pilot working anyway and of course plats. 20/21 away over there, behind the wall, accessible only by loads of steps up/long walk/loads of steps down, particularly the 'holiday' trains of mk1 corridor stock to scarborough etc. bad enough normally, but particularily with a family and all your luggage in tow! happy days!

cracking vid bruce! don't worry about the quality, they look fine to me! as has been said, the DMUs were certainly pick'n'mix weren't they? for waverley west, i seem to remember if you wanted a single-class set, the most likely would be a 101, maybe a 107? 120s and 104s would seem to have been mixed in with whatever was going. mind you, the end of the vid posted shows a 3-car 116 on the ECML, so who are we to say what's right or wrong? hahaha

reap the wild wind - ultravox

is she really going out with him? - joe jackson

i've just been barred fron b&q i walked in the door and some wee guy in an orange apron asked if i wanted decking so i thought i'd better get in first......

you get what you give - new radicals

come to me - bjork

a photo of the cross-arm and S-F types here: http://www.old-dalby.com/HSCCP.htm (scroll down to 'dynamic tests') although these have been modified for the tests, they're quite good close shots of the frames

OT for the thread, but very interesting re: cl.253 sets with the 2 catering vehicles, i.e. TRUK/TRSB the way they're formed makes more sense too, in that the TRUK is next to 1st class, natch, but the TRSB is 'inside' the 2nd class part of the train, meaning most buffet customers were only 2 coaches at most from the buffet of course, later on, these 'twins' would be ECML only with the catering cars together, meaning you potentially had quite a journey from the end TS/TGS to the buffet and back, trying not to spill your 'maxpax'!

for a 60s box on wheels, the 73s look good in a nice new livery! notice the 73s are actually in different finishes - front one, all yellow end, small arrows and 2nd one half yellow end and large arrows

certainly in the 80s, the REPs and TCs could be a bit mix'n'match, especially when it came to royal useage. for example a TC but with a REP buffet car in place of the TFK hauled by a 'royal' loco like 73142 'broadlands'

some interesting info at the SEMG site, where they have a selection of articles from 'the railway magazine'. bournemouth electrification : http://www.semgonline.com/RlyMag/BournemouthElect.pdf third rail to bournemouth : http://www.semgonline.com/RlyMag/ThirdRailBomo.pdf interesting to read of the options being considered at the time especially in 'southern region topics 1965': http://www.semgonline.com/RlyMag/SouthernRegionTopics65.pdf where a lot of research is detailed re: the stock and how it would be operated (although on other lines, presumably these test would pave the way for the REP/TC/loco combinations) regarding the REPs, the final DMSs were the last mk1 stock built in 1975, at which time the mk3s and HST were coming on stream!

i've read before about the SR's reluctance to have anything to do with the 123s - not because they were DMUs per se, but mechanical DMUs - the thumper DEMUs at least had components like EE traction motors and control systems similar to those in the EMUs of the time. i get the impression that full mechanical transmission was not something SR depots were too familiar with and there wasn't much desire to start! hence, when they did run over these routes, they were very definitely WR allocated and maintained. re: the comfort factor, they were the only DMUs to be mounted on B4s, the accomodation itself being equivalent to the contemporary mk1 LH stock

hi mike, there's a fair bit about the line etc. at: http://www.derbysulzers.com/24102.html although centred on the 24s that replaced the 9Fs, there's info about the line itself, operations, the hoppers, loading/unloading etc., which would be relevant to when steam was in use.

as i've said before, it's not just the quality of modelling on offer here, it's the photography too. those daylight pics are immense dave. long may they continue!

went for a walk at lower largo the other day. parked up in the car park at station park, which was the actual location of the station, then followed the trackbed path eastwards. just outside of largo i noticed what i thought was a grounded van - but looking through the topic at the old site: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40339&hilit=grounded+vans&start=25 Young Fido has a similar one in his 2nd. pic and he identifies it as a container. my one has similar end and side, but in the last photo, it seems the other end has a corrugated panel - presumably these had doors at both ends? if it is a container, i take it it's one of the detatchable containers from the '60s? taken at the limit of my coolpix's digital zoom, from the old trackbed. the van is on private property and didn't want to bother the ownwers

now i'm getting to grips with the new RMWeb, glad i found this. not only do you have an amazing layout, with wonderful stock, but they are photographed brilliantly as well. no co-incidence that so many of your phots are a real-life 'double-take'! nice to see the 2-car 150/2 there - although if you have to many of these you can safely delete any loco+4 dundee-edin workings. when i was at strathclyde uni 87/88ish, going back to glasgow from kirkcaldy on a sunday evening, a 150/2 would roll up, cue much crush-capacity standing only! and if you did get a seat, it was on those rather hard and narrow seat 'cushions'! i have to say this is my favourite layout, simply because it's a station (even allowing for modeller's license) that is so recognisable, and i recognise it! wonderful stuff mate!

for bry, who i think was the original seeker of the montrose maglime workings. was just raking through the old site and came across waverley81's thread in which was this page http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13086&hilit=waverley81&start=75 more particularly, scroll down to this image (couldn't find a way of directly linking to it, if i've done wrong please remove it) caption says "37 040 avoiding Newcastle station on a sand train (1985)"