ChrisN

50 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Note the Furness Railway train in the bay platform.

Are you sure that is the Furness?

8 hours ago, lezz01 said:

So if anyone is interested in Victorian and Edwardian figures this chap does some really nice ones from 2mm scale to gauge 1 scale although he's quoting 1/30th as gauge 1 and I always though it was 1/32nd but hey ho!

https://www.acstadden.co.uk/shop-3

No connection although I do intend to buy a few myself.

Regards Lez.  

The Stadden figures are very good.  He copies people from photographs so they are accurate.  I think some of the railway men in his '0' gauge range actually have names as they were real railwaymen.  Again no connection, just love his figures.

22 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

Hi Chris. Thought you might have been on your hols! Last time I was in Porthmadog we did all the same stuff and climbed Moel y Gest, unforgettable as there's a hillfort on the summit!

Hope you all had a great time, regards Shaun.

 

Oh! P.S. Great job on the station entranceway😁

Thanks Shaun,

It is a few years since we climbed Moel y Gest, but we did manage to get about a mile or so up the Llanberis path to Snowden.

Those pillars are a nice little project that I had looked forward to doing as they are almost the signature of the front of the building.  Pity I had to do it twice, but it was satisfying.

I have not reported any modelling recently, that is because I have not done a lot.  I was ill at the end of August then last week we were away in Porthmadog, in a flat overlooking the cob.  A trip on the Talyllyn  and the Llanberis Lake as well as up to Tan-y-Bwlch  on the Ffestiniog.

However, I have done a small project, and no, it is not another side project.  You may remember that when I made the front pillars for the station I made the top too large and as it was hardened clay it was not really recoverable.

I made the moulding of the pillars before from Miliput, but I decided that it was much easier using air dried clay.  Half a kilo of DAS is a bit mush when you only want a few grams, so:-

I bought this.  Surprisingly it is not 'going off' in its container.  There is now no excuse for any young lady on the layout not to have a proper length skirt!

In case you have forgotten, and why should you remember, this is what the pillars look like.

Perhaps Aberdovey is better as it is not so ornate.

So the base I made from 7mm square tube, measured the height I wanted, then drew a line at 2mm below the end, marked 2mm in the middle as the flat piece, and then cut the corners off with a Stanley knife.  You can hopefully see below.

I did the cutting before removing the length from the rest of the tube to make it easier.  It was then cut off using a needle saw.  They were then stuck to 10 thou plasticard, and cut off when dry.  I also cut off two, 2mm squares for the top.  This was different to last time, (ah, perhaps I had learnt something?), as it gave a limit to where the clay was to go.  These were then stuck to 10 thou plasticard and cut off when dry.  The pillar itself is an 1/8 inch tube.  I checked that I had measured the length correctly.

The 'F' is important as although everything was measured and checked and cut to incredibly fine accuracy, some parts looked better than others, and it was better that they were round the back, where only Mr Price will see them.

The clay was pushed in the bottom around the tube, smoothed out and left to dry.  When dry I did the top.

So we needed the round decoration.

I started by gluing10 thou rod around the back.  The first ones I used plastic weld, and when I tried to bend the rod it disintegrated.  Nest I used polystyrene cement and found that was alright but I really needed to bed the rod first, and finally having bent the rod it was better to stick the rod to the front of the pillar, then when dry, wrap the rod around and cut it off at the back.

Next one up.

All done.

I thought I had a picture of them in position, but maybe I have not downloaded it from my camera yet.

If you have been, thanks for looking.

29 minutes ago, MrWolf said:

 

Not at all, I'm not certain how to search within a topic though, perhaps it's not a feature of the mobile friendly version? 

My mobile won't open the DocX, just to annoy me...😄

I have put another post on with the links directly on it.  They all appear to work for me.

I understand that some cannot open the document, so here are the links below.  Please comment if you use it like this please.

Drawing

Parts

Putting together

Put together

Finished

Hope this helps.

I had mentioned my 6ft 4" Dean Bogie, and in answer to a question about it I said, rather rudely I think, 'search my thread'.  My excuse is that I had not been well, but I felt I should gather together all the links to when I built mine onto a Word document.

The document is here on my thread.  That way I will not clutter this one up and I will know how much, if any interest there is in it.  

Disclaimer:  I know it runs smoothly as a bogie, but I have not yet put one, or even two under anything and seen that it actually works.

I have had some interest in my 6ft 4" Dean Bogie, (well, I am interested), and rather than just saying to people, 'Search my thread', I thought I had better put together a list of links as to how I built it.  As ever I have photographed everything I did and put it in order, which of course means that I photographed it when I remembered and only half explained it.  These are not Lego, or IKEA instructions.  (The same people do the instructions for both which is why my grandson at a very early age put together an IKEA set of drawers or something similar.)

Also, I have not included all the very helpful stuff put in by other people about how they worked and historical information, partly as it would only confuse, and partly as most of the pictures/diagrams have been lost.  

I attached a word document with the links.

Links to construction.docx

Please feel free to download.  If you would like a copy of the Silhouette file please ask.

Hope this helps.

Here is the latest picture of the work on the bridge, from my favourite web site.  Click back for more, and probably by the time you see this there will have been more added.

On 16/09/2023 at 10:38, Nick Gough said:

Seen yesterday:

 

Preparing to replace the main steel girder sections of the bridge.

Here is the latest picture of the bridge on my favourite web site.  Click back to find others, and probably there will be more added.

No kits, just ideas, particularly if you are near the seaside.

A bus or sightseeing? I want one, but I will probably have to scratchbuild it.

A dinky Donkey Cart.

There are more on the web site, on The Town album.

There is also this Small Horse Cart, from Scale Model Scenery.  Just a satisfied customer, it does go together quite easily, but do the wheels straight onto the axles, and not the way they say.

Also, could you get away with a traction engine?  It depends on where you are modelling.  If you have photos of the area that would be a help.

(Rural carts varied from place to place, but you would be unlucky to get a 'farm cart rivet counter' to tell you your hay cart actually came from East Anglia, rather than deepest darkest Devon.)

Here is a copy from Harris, which lists the interiors from 1890 to 1950.

Hope this helps.

7 hours ago, Nick Gough said:

Seen yesterday:

 

Preparing to replace the main steel girder sections of the bridge.

Thank you Nick,

We actually drove through Barmouth last weekend, (it was a mistake really as it was heaving), so we did see that but were unable to stop and take pictures.  We have just come back from a week in Porthmadog.  Got as far south as Harlech yesterday.

I do not have my own laptop at the moment, and my internet is extremely flakey but when it sorts itself out I will post more about seat colours, although @Compound2632 may have covered it all, and will also post links to the Dean Bogie in a way they are easy to find.

14 hours ago, MrWolf said:

 

That's interesting, are the solebars laminated in some way?

Rob,

If you search ;Dean Bogie' on my thread you will find links to the build, and it has pictures.  The sides of the bogie are laminated, the solebars are just added to it and the top is a piece of 40 thou plasticard.  Although I have not yet attached it to anything the method I have used is copied from people who have.

I hesitate to say this, but I have a Silhouette cutter file for a Dean 6ft bogie.  I hesitate as I am not sure how good it is really.  If you, or anyone else would like a copy of that file then please PM me.  (I do not want to put it up for anyone to download asI would like to know where it has gone.)  I could also possibly cut a limited number of them.

I have made on on my thread if you wish to see how I did it, although I will need to check that the images are there or have been replaced.  As yet I have only cut two and built one and they have not been put under anything yet, so no idea how robust they are although I have followed a method of bogie construction from other people..  (GWR coaches are not my priority.)

3 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Thanks for that, Jonathan. I have been a bit confused about Saloon Thirds, despite having one myself (a GWR G20).  I've been wondering what they were actually used for, as I don't imagine Third class passengers could afford hiring them for family holidays, hunting parties etc. But your examples make a lot of sense, i.e. vehicles hired for community activities.

 

Mikkel,

Sorry, I have been out at a grandson's birthday.  As Jonathan said they were hired by groups of people to do things together, hence the hiring by the Ladies of the Dolgelley Temperance Society.  I think in the end on the Cambrian they were called 'Football Saloons' as I think they were hired by football teams and or/supporters to go to away matches.  (Local league stuff.)  I am sure I have seen a photo of the inside of one full of men, but it is probably copyright.  I need to have another good look through my books again.

I have no historical precedent but my G20 will have farmers and their wives off to Traeth Mawr market.  I am sure I have real evidence of how things were hired out but at The moment I cannot remember.

20 minutes ago, tanatvalley said:

Chris, it is not on the wrong line as it has entered the single line. The line behind is a headshunt off the up platform. See latest Cooke Track plan No. 63.

Alan,

Yes, thank you.  It is obvious on the National Library of Scotland 25" map.

12 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

We are aware that the photo is post 1892 but all the stock originates before that date and it is a really nice pic. It was really hard to find decent pre-1892 images of trains.

Re it being on the wrong line, I think you are right. It does look as if it is heading south, so I wonder why from the Down platform.

One for the "!Cambrian mob" top chew over.

Jonathan

 

There is this photo, which might of course be a one off, but there is a later photo as well with two diesels, (sorry for the bad language), in the same position.  There is this one as well.  

This was the signal diagram I had thought of but it is much later and does not show what we want.

Here is the postcard I miss linked earlier.

2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

The first four carriages in that train are evidently Cambrian, since they have separate waist and eves panels (not LNW) and the waist panels are a light, not dark, colour (not GW). Same, I think, for the bogie carriage.

Stephen,

Thank you.  Having never actually got round to painting my GWR coaches, the facts of the panelling on each type of coach remained safely locked in different filing cabinets in my brain without a cross reference.  I have now filled out the relevant ticket, and filed it appropriately.  (LNWR is a completely foreign land really, so did not have its own filing cabinet.)

That information now makes me realise that, in this famous photo the leading coach is a GWR through coach, and this terrible postcard, shows a Cambrian coach, although I have never seen a Cambrian coach with so many ventilators.

Note the colour of the bronze green coach, which is probably nearer than my bronze green, and the green sheen on the engine which is from the invisible green paint.

1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:

We are aware that the photo is post 1892 but all the stock originates before that date and it is a really nice pic. It was really hard to find decent pre-1892 images of trains.

Re it being on the wrong line, I think you are right. It does look as if it is heading south, so I wonder why from the Down platform.

One for the "!Cambrian mob" top chew over.

Jonathan

 

I agree about it being a lovely picture, and good pictures of trains pre 1892 are very rare.  There are pictures, but generally poor quality.  Also, I am not sure I have seen this one before.

All the diagrams I have up until 1894 either show oil tops or nothing on the drawings, so the front carriage is interesting.  Perhaps an LNWR six wheeler, which would mean a Machynlleth train.

In the cover picture of the book, the train which is a wonderful collection of six wheelers, with a possible through carriage at the back, behind an Albion 2-4-0, (beautiful), is on the wrong line.  Now Barmouth was actually signalled so that trains could enter either line, so 

1) It was on the down platform for some reason,

2)  It arrived on the down platform, the engine ran round and now is returning.  (Not many if any at this time terminated at Barmouth, except the Dolgelley train, and I thought that train was only four carriages.  Of course one of the six wheelers might be a through carriage.)

3) It is shunting the carriages to the up platform.

4) It is posed there for the picture.

All the carriage sidings are down the other end.

The front carriage appears to have gas tops which I think are too late for 1892.

I have a number of diagrams already from HMRC HMRS, at I think, £10.00 a time, so £26.00 will save one of my sons quite a bit of money this Christmas.  I have Volumes 1-3 and they are excellent.

3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

If that is Cambrian Saloon No. 10, then there is a photo of the grounded body in my recent Cambrian Drawings book (plug) courtesy of Francis Taylor.

Jonathan

Jonathan,

Thank you.  It is on my shopping list, but, er, it is now closer to next Christmas than last so it will go on my Christmas list.  That also means that the WRRC, (Welsh Railway Research Circle), will not lose the £6.00 discount that members get.

I have waited a while for this book, so it will be a nice Christmas present.

Still, it is too late now. hopefully it will be finished, (ho, ho), by the time I see the picture.

Things have been a little slow lately, and I still have some pictures on my camera to download, of the interesting bit, well I think it is interesting.  (I have also done some boring bits to the platform.)

The Cambrian Third Class Saloon.  (I did get out the ladies of the Dolgelley Temperance Society to paint them, but then I saw the time, and so put them back.)

Here are the constituent parts.

I showed this picture last time, which is the top four laminations, with holes in the bottom two drilled through to allow any fumes to escape.

The other side, and the ends. (Ah, no pictures of the parts of the end.  Two plain pieces, and a moulding piece.)  I have added some mouldings, er, by eye, although I did measure the distance between the top and bottom ones to make sure the middle one was equidistant between the two.)  I think that perhaps they should have been on a panel layer but I did not think of it when I was drawing the file, and there is, as far as I have found, no pictures of this coach.  Notice that the end panelling does not quite fit, not sure why.

Finally, I put some 15 thou strips on the laminations in the first picture, (sorry, for got to take a photo), and then put the final layer on.  This again has holes to allow fumes to escape.  The idea of the strips is that I can slide 10 thou glazing into it when it is finished and painted.  That is the theory, and it did work on one a while ago which I used as practise.

It now needs the end bevelling to make a fit, and a floor making.  I know that Cambrian chassis do not look like GWR ones, but Ratio chassis are GWR and I am not going to draw and cut a Cambrian one.  The floor will be made to take the Ratio solebars etc.  (I need to look at my pictures of how I did this before on the Parliamentary coaches.)  This is not a five minute job like laminating, and will be longer than the mouldings, so I need to convince myself I have enough time to do that and something on the station building or platform.

In other but similar news, while my wife is sitting on her laptop working in the evenings, so as to not be completely antisocial, I sit with her on my laptop, editing Silhouette files, what I made earlier, and messed up.  I have now finished the E25.  It is ready to cut.  I had hoped to do that today, but all my time disappeared.  This will be more complicated to build, and I keep telling myself that I ought to be getting on with scenery.  Still the chances of me going completely barmy and making the whole of the 10:02 from Paddington, are fairly remote.  Honest........

If you have been, thanks for looking.