Trains&armour

Ooops... Very nice model, well build, great work, love the weathering, interesting vehicle, etcetera. Good enough?

Technically speaking it can't be a M26 Pershing because the tank wasn't officially accepted by the US military until March 1945, when it got it's designation as M26 and was named after General Pershing. Until then, it was know under its prototype number, T26E3. And why then can't the above tank be a Pershing? Because the model, as build, represents Fireball, a tank that got knocked out on it's second day in service, in February 1945. So it never made it to being a M26... Enough nitpicking for today!

No, that's a T26E3.....

Just like Rich (The Fatadder) I would be interested "in having a look at the GWR stock / kits list if I may please, Not entirely sure what I am looking for at the moment, but will know if I see it" And thanks for posting this.

Sorry, no, this is the best resolution I can offer you. I didn't buy the postcard, but judging by other postcards I'd say the seller posted a good scan. The original probably doesn't show any more detail than this. I could be wrong, but it's gone now...

Agreed. But this a kit from 1964 and very basic. But still, a recognizable version of the 6 pounder. And cheap. However, for those with deeper pockets, Milicast do a nice 1/76 one in resin. Or, as an alternative, buy a 1/72 version. With a gun this size the scale difference is not really noticeable. Plastic Soldier Company has a 6 pounder in it's range, but alas it's only available in a wargame package, two guns with crew and two Lloyd carriers. Later this year ACE is planning to release a 1/72 6 pounder as well. And knowing the brand, that will be an accurate and detailed model.

And a nice load for your LMS 3 plank opens: 6 pdr AT guns being loaded at Barker Perkins Westwood works

Definitely Carriers. And on the first photo are late type M5A1's fresh from the USA, and a M2 Halftrack. Don't know about the cranes...

I'm leaning towards the third one being a Loriot P as well. It has the correct frame type made of I beams

A great photo indeed. The first wagon is a Loriot A, renamed B after 1909, diagram G2. The middle wagons is a Loriot E, diagram G20. The third I cannot identify right now, but probably somebody else can! The loads are QF 5.5" guns. I knew that Loriot's were used for military transports, but this is the first good photo I have ever seen.

Might I suggest building the wagon first and then apply the lettering by using printed decals? The overall result will probably look better. One drawback, printing white is not possible on most commercially available home printers, but there are several printing services available who can print white decals on decal paper. I've done so on several occasions, the first of which is documented on RMweb: (See part one and three) But beware, it's a fictional livery and definitely not pre grouping. But for a first attempt I think the final result looks quite acceptable.

And another thing, I came across this postcard on Ebay, send in 1909. What first caught my eye was the private owner wagon but on further examination of the card the bumb buffered wagon behind the GWR 4 plank was what really excited me . Zoomed in view: Posted it earlier on the "More Pre-Grouping Wagons in 4mm" thread to discuss. And if my eyes don't deceive me, the bottom line reads Aberdovey, the middle Coal &, and the top lettering starts with a G. Now, according to Mike Lloyd (private owners on the Cambrian), there are only three known Aberdovey traders with their own wagon, and one of them is Griffith Davies & son, still listed in 1926. And the only trader with a name starting with a "G" Way too early for my period, but an Aberdovey wagon... I thought of building it in this way, with visible but faded lettering, somewhere in a corner of the layout: Described in M Lloyd, private owners on the Cambrian, p 12, at Porthywaen: The photograph was taken in 1952 but the foreman at the yard said the wagon body had been in the same position for 50 years. The makeshift roof being added when it was converted to store salt. After some toing and froing this is the possible reconstruction I came up with: The lettering on the second half of the Aberdovey wagon is no more than an educated guess. it could as well be Coal & Coke Merchants, or, as popular in the area, Coal & Lime Merchants. And on page 7 of M. Llloyd's book there is an photo of a wagon of a nearby trader: Thomas & Jones, Coal , Lime & General Merchants, Aberystwyth. And as to the general merchants bit, Griffith Davies is mentioned several times in the Welsh Gazette and West Wales Advertiser as a merchant, and in the Gazette of 28th March 1907 I found this bit of intriguing information: Shipping News. — The s.s. Droxmore arrived at aberdovey harbour on Friday noon with a cargo of oats and potatoes from Newry, Ireland, part of which was discharged to Mr. Griffith Davis. Does sound like he was a general merchant besides being a coal merchant. And for those interested in pre grouping wagons, a possible reconstruction of the other PO wagon:

After a long absence, I've restarted my Aberdovey layout project. No building as yet, but did some more research and thinking. As a result, I changed the plan somewhat. Deleted the proposed GWR goods yard and replaced it with the actually existing creosote works. Lengthened the tunnel behind the village somewhat and did some work on the village itself. Added the petroleum shed with a headshunt on the start of the harbour branch and some other small alterations. Ok, the petroleum shed was probably torn down in the 1920's, but I kind of liked it, and hey, its my railway.

Changed...

And a somewhat better Hawkins wagon drawing. Not perfect, but giving a reasonable general impression I think.

As to the G on the Aberdovey wagon, I agree with you. Is this better? Still a modern font, but I don't really have the time to draw my own letters. General merchants as in this example, M.Lloyd page 7 But If you mean that the horizontal bar on the upright tag, as in this modern G was not seen, I don't really agree with you. It might have been less common, but I've seen several examples of that type of G on early wagons. They generally do differ from the modern letter in being more rounded.

Hi, yes, these were just quickies, drawings to show the general layout of the liveries, not exact reconstructions. I used the fonts installed in my drawing program. The wagon line drawings themselves also are not exact replica's of the prototype, just some drawings I had handy. Any comments welcome, and will try to incorporate them in a more precise drawing. But will replace the G forthwith! As to the small lettering on the Hawkins wagon, these were copied off a later wagon, to fill the blank space. Again, any suggestions welcome. The lettering on the second half of the Aberdovey wagon is no more than an educated guess. it could as well be Coal & coke Merchants, or, as popular in the area, Coal & Lime Merchants. And on page 7 of M. Llloyd's book there is an photo of a wagon of a nearby trader: Thomas & Jones, Coal , coke & General Merchants, Aberystwyth. BTW, what is exactly wrong with the ' G '

You don't make life easy.... My take on the livery of the Aberdovey wagon, all over black As to the general merchant bit, Davies is mentioned several times in the Welsh Gazette and West Wales Advertiser as a merchant, and in the Gazette of 28th March 1907 I found this bit of intriguing information: Shipping News. — The s.s. Droxmore arrived at aberdovey harbour on Friday noon with a cargo of oats and potatoes from Newry, Ireland, part of which was discharged tor Mr. Griffith Davis. Sounds like a general merchant to me Way too early for my period, but an Aberdovey wagon... I thought of building it in this way, with visible but faded lettering, somewhere in a corner of the layout: Described in M Lloyd, private owners on the Cambrian, p 12, at Porthywaen: The photograph was taken in 1952 but the foreman at the yard said the wagon body had been in the same position for 50 years. The makeshift roof being added when it was converted to store salt. And as an extra, a possible interpretation of the Joseph Hawkins wagon, small lettering taken from a later Hawkins wagon:

I came across this postcard on Ebay when looking for extra details and information for my (soon to be realized....) Aberdovey layout: A view of the wharf in Aberdovey from the jetty, circa 1905. A nice lineup of wagons, most of them Cambrian 3 plank wagons, but what caught my eye was the private owner wagon. A bit too early for my period, but still a nice one to model (applying rule one here). If you zoom in, you can read almost all of the lettering: An early wagon of Joseph Hawkinks & sons, Cannock Old Coppice Colliery. But then I spotted the dumb buffered wagon half hidden by the GWR wagon (4 plank open to build L322?). And if my eyes don't deceive me, the bottom line reads Aberdovey, the top lettering starts with a G. Now, according to Mike Lloyd (private owners on the Cambrian), there are only three known Aberdovey traders with their own wagon, and one of them is Griffith Davies & son, still listed in 1926. Could this be his wagon, lettered G.Davies (& son), or is it just me imaging things in my quest for an unique wagon for my layout.... Comments please.

When will these be available in Brent? I'd like some this summer. Will be in the neighbourhood...

Where have I seen that loco before?

I don't doubt it, but as a general rule I do all my kitbuilding in 1/76 - 1/72. Only for large ships (large in real life...) do I make an exception. I build those in 1/350. Will be following this build with interest.

I might as well...

Very nice, but where do you find the time for all your builds?. Yes, I've got this one in my stash as well, but I struggle to find enough time to even build a Churchill in 1/76.

Thanks! As soon as I read your post, I though 'I know that' but earlier my mind came up with a complete blank. Funny thing, the human brain. And thanks for the link, new to me.