DonB

Never been a Flickr user, And not prepared to jump through the hoops to get access. (same applies to Facebook!) Luddites Anonymous ! Not sure that I was wearing a Gabardine Mac, I would have arrived by Motorbike, but certainly my pictures show such dress as the norm

I no longer have the NGRS magazine Inviting members to a visit to a Potato Farm Railway. I went (and memory of where is a bit hazy) but I did get photos on a small format point and shoot camera. I'll post a few when I can get them scanned. This was in 1954/5 there was a coach propelled by a Simplex Edit... Belated edit but I have now uploaded my 14 pictures of the trip to the N G farm railway system at Nocton. They are in my Gallery listed as NGRS to Nocton 1954/5

A neat coincidence... Annie's Walsall wagon plate and Jerome K.Jerome's Three Men in a Boat ,,,, Jerome spent the early years of his life in Walsall where the HQ of the J K J society is based. Any one interested , I can supply details, or see www.jeromekjerome.com

I found that one needed to be careful when printing scaled-up (or -down) drawings, to not produce portrait and landscape portions of the same file. I ran into this problem using a now scrapped Epson printer some years ago. Rotating a drawing also produced anomalies. Haven't investigated to see if I would have the problem with my present HP Photosmart printer.

Also came across this when I had a FAT. FINGER moment....... https://www.printed.com/services/paper-types-card-stocks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00jv72t Download link to episode of "REEL HISTORY" series being run by the Beeb currently.. Today's episode was titled "Black Diamonds" about coal mining in S.Wales, but featuring a preserved Mine shaft which has a striking resemblance to your model, it shows the structure and gates surrounding the Cage which you may find useful. With my nit-picking hat on, and hoping not to offend, I felt that the lack of protection around the cage was the only feature missing in a superb atmospheric model. I hope to get to the NEC to see it. Best wishes, Don

Thanks ,tebee, for digging out that MR article. Not sure that it's helped Martin to make decisions about laying out his track, But it's nice to know that a few of the brain cells are still able to recall things from years ago, even if I get the decade wrong. Wonder what I had for breakfast?? Never worked to EM standards so didn't know of their booklet. At a glance,the MR article looks a simpler approach and similar to Stubby's suggestion, certainly Martin will not need to bother with super-elevation on his curves at the speeds at which his trains will be travelling and I assume that super-elevation on curves was introduced after WW1 on main lines. Edit... reading the MR article states that super-elevation on curved track preceded transition curves, but does not give a time frame.

I recall from way back, probably the mid to late 50s, that there was a discussion / proposal, in a stray copy of Model Railroader that came my way, that the American NMRA should produce a set of standards (or guidlines?)for transition curves.... any member of the British chapter able to say whether it ever came to fruition ?? I think that complex Maths was involved ! More sensibly, if you have a local print outlet take them your file which is to scale and get a corner printed on A1paper. Their printer should "do the maths" for you. You may find that your lines are also increased in thickness, depending on how your CAD program is configured. Bear in mind that whatever you draw at ground level will need to be duplicated on the baseboards. altering a file is the easy option. A quote for the whole file might be off-putting! But the thought of the strain on and pain in the knees covering the whole area of your splendid Train room hardly bears thinking about!

Mit Herr Flick??

Thanks for all the clarification on title for the Serif in lettering . I should have known (or remembered) that....... I worked briefly for a boss who insisted on using Sans-Serif text on all his company paperwork! Back to the little wagon drawing - Clicking on the drawing produced an enlarged version, clearly showing a tiny downward serif on the letter which I had assumed to lack one. A genuine Red Herring! It did however elicit an observation from Martin S-C :-Quote:- "I disagree somewhat on the main point however, plenty of period photos show the GWR (I mention them because I know this company best) moving through about 3 versions of the upper case G. The clarity came in with the enormous 1904 style lettering as well, of course. I find this an interesting study, I suppose it falls under marketing, product promotion and other social psychology headings, but almost all the railway companies began with very small understated lettering and almost all moved to very large lettering at about the same time, in the early 1900s. At a similar time private owner liveries jumped out of nothing (from very understated and simple) to basically mobile advertising hoardings. By the 1930s company lettering tended to get a little smaller again and by WWII was back to very small letters, again almost across the board. I'd find a study of this process - aligned against a timeline of British politics and social habits as well as the growth of road competition - to be a quite fascinating read." Pick your university and tutor carefully - There's probably a PHD waiting to be gained here !!!

The drawing (post #13727, top of this page) seems to refer to the C W R , or is the horizontal bar of the letter G (does it have a name?) also "Lost in the folds of the print" in true CA style ?

A little bit of ######-pile on the underside of the board and it's edges might help! (Just testing the limits of the censor) Edit.... it's an anagram of "gash" ! Yep.. a gash bit of carpet fills the bill OK too.

Whoops.... Straying towards forbidden territory. I bet that the mods are watching!

Would be the very thing if shaped like a loco! I was thinking more of this sort of thing :- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolling-Gardening-Helper-Workshop-Trolley/dp/B00XGWWSD6/ref=pd_sbs_86_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00XGWWSD6&pd_rd_r=3f2a449b-ddf9-11e8-a4bd-ef9e25c8193f&pd_rd_w=S6XMw&pd_rd_wg=Ae9Th&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=18edf98b-139a-41ee-bb40-d725dd59d1d3&pf_rd_r=P3K9P82CQJGYGM2Q06QE&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=P3K9P82CQJGYGM2Q06QE

A duck-under tends to become a "Crawl-under" as years progress (Ask me how I know!) A crouching shuffle or a crawl are both hard on the knees! An idea I have seen suggested, can't remember where, Is to have a little, low, sit-on trolley permanently sited under the gap. with handrails each side of the opening. The handrails provide the means of propulsion and one arrives at 'tother side facing the right way to get upright easily. I think that a narrow bench-type seat would work best, bearing in mind that has to be equally usable in both directions.

Kids can be so very cruel..... Grandson's best mate at junior school said on arrival at 7 that he was dyslexic, and he did struggle to keep up with lessons. At 10 he announced that "I've done the tests and I'm not dyslexic" Grandson whispered." I'd keep quiet about that, or people will think you are just stupid" They are still good friends!!

Depends whether you think it's intended for input or output!

It was suggested that Ireland was the location for the pictures, so it's Interesting that the photos of both locos have a skyline which appears to be populated by Reverend Gentlemen in their Cassocks, blessing the workers? or just early trainspotters?

Martin Sorry for lousy link ... I did a copy & paste of my search bar, it usually works! Somewhere on the web there are at least two photos of the Shipton gas works, I'll have a trawl, but we are away this W/E Edit.. Also on the Warwickshire Railways website is this picture http://warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrss1002.htm Showing the Gas holder in the background... looks to be an imposing structure in the village setting!

Quote:- " Nice to have a little gasworks on a layout (the Peter Denny pocket-sized versions) " There was a "pocket-sized" gasworks at Shipton on Stour adjacent to the goods yard. There was a siding almost butting up against the mutual boundary of the two properties, but I have seen no evidence that coal was delivered by rail for gas making at Shipton. My interest was of the period between post-grouping and late 30s, and my info. has all been passed on. A 1923 map showing the Proximity of gasworks and rail yard can be found at http://warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrss3103.htm It may give enough info to estimate the size of the gasworks.

Many years ago (Probably 40 !) we went on Holiday to France and stopped for a meal at St.Lo where a postwar hotel (Hotel Universe) had been built as a fairly elongated block. We took advantage of the Menu Touistique at the little restaurant at the far corner of the block. So literally, we ate at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe!

For a view of how someone else is attacking his garage-to-railway room project, starting a couple of weeks ago and with ,I think, expectations of a long term occupancy, see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/135768-nether-madder-and-great-shafting-rly/page-8 where his rebuild starts, but it's worth reading the whole thread (about 10 pages at present).

I think it was Noel Coward who summed it up.. "Very flat, Norfolk"

Just needs the first of the demolition contractor's kit and operatives to show "progress" is imminent, plus the inevitable Portaloo!!!