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You're getting more confused than me Andy too many posts in one day This was from the Semaphore site, http://semaphore.avonvalleyrailway.org/html/frames.html You do have to search around it though to find relevent information Ivatt 2-6-2T No. 41243 approaches Bitton Station with a three coach local train from Bristol, bound for Bath Green Park. This photograph shows the layout at the north end of Bitton very well. A Single Slip point (controlled by levers 4 and 5 in the signal box) gave access from the main line to the yard, which then fanned out into four sidings. To the right can be seen the two, long coal sidings, whilst the point immediately in front of the photographer led one line, past a five ton capacity hand operated crane, through the goods shed; with the other curving around the outside of that building, and running in to the cattle dock. The goods shed siding was closed and removed in 1964, followed by the other three sidings on 19th July 1965, two weeks after Bitton closed to goods traffic (5/7/1965). As is well documented elsewhere, the last scheduled BR passenger trains ran on Saturday 5th March 1966, with the line closing the following day, along with the whole of the Somerset and Dorset Railway. Immediately behind the Ivatt, and largely hidden by it, can be seen Bitton Signal Box, a Midland Railway timber type 2B which opened on 19/7/1894, replacing an earlier box. The signal box closed on 19th July 1965, when the yard sidings were closed, and was demolished long before preservationists reached the site in 1972. In the middle, extreme right of the picture can be seen the tall Bitton Down Home signal, controlled by lever No. 2 in Bitton Box. Just visible behind the last coach (between the down main and the head shunt) can be seen the yellow ground signal (lever 6) which controlled the exit of trains from the yard in a northerly direction. A similar yellow ground signal (lever 7) controlled the exit of trains from the yard in a southerly direction, this being behind the photographer. Photograph by Ronald E Toop. I'm off to check my name now

Andy The photo Al posted of the signal box of Butterley CF is a Midland Type 2a, originally at Ais Gill, the same as you will be modelling for Bitton. Bitton signal box was destroyed in 1965, the one acquired for preservation came from Painswick Road in Gloucester. http://semaphore.avonvalleyrailway.org/html/frames.html http://www.midlandrailway-butterley.co.uk/signalboxes/operational.html Incorrect info, Bitton is a Midland Type 2B, sorry

Hi Neil Just a thought, I know you like sticking to the prototype, but......... I could not see the point of the cross over in the bay platform, surely any engine would not go through the goods shed. I've tweaked the plan, may give you an idea, maybe not As for the run round situation at Bodmin, don't forget that this is a preserved railway, that said, it is usually frowned upon to propel stock with passengers onboard, don't quote me but I think there are quite a few rules pertaining to this activity. In pre-preservation days at other country termini the engine release cross over was sometimes quite a way back from the buffers. The incoming train would most likely go to or within a few feet of the buffers where the passengers would disembark and then the doors closed by the guard. No passengers would be allowed to board the stationary train. The train would then be propelled back beyond the engine release, the engine would uncouple and perform the run round. Once coupled up again, the train would be propelled back to the buffers where the departing passengers would then be allowed to board. In preservation it is quite common for a lot of passengers to remain onboard for the return journey so the action of propelling said passengers like you witnessed seems a bit dubious to me.

You can see why elf & safety was need in industry. It is just a pity that it has been carried over and used in more mundane circumstances as an excuse to keep joe public in check where the application of common sense would suffice. But then again, a lot of people today have little common sense and no rational thinking towards their own wellbeing.

They have done a good job though Andy, it doesn't look a bodged job (no offence to you) bodged, of-fence, I'm digging myself a hole here if I'm not careful Its only frustrating when you know you could do a lot better. It is starting to look good out back, old garage gone, grass laid, conifers cut, fence up, just concrete base then ttthhhhuuuuuu bunker and you have still got your health intact, so it must be a bonus

Don't worry Andy, when you wake up you can have a look how to maintain that Marcway. The video has a bit of noise and a water mark, but is well worth watching especially the last bit about curves.

What they didn't tell you Andy is that they have been copying the pro's

0.07mm :jester:How do you sharpen those drills Mike

I've been waiting months to add a new project from you to my Andy Peters folder. Then you sneak up with a four page opener before I've had time to blink. Looking forward to the blow by blow account of Bitton with lots and lots of photos of the whole project. Once the shed is up and running what is the timescale before we see the all important GRASS

How did they get in the Bunker? I remember 40 odd years ago on our new build when a low loader full of paving slabs turned up at 4 o,clock and all the builders had gone home at 3.30

Nah, we all knew that eventually you were going to quarry it to fill your anhydrite wagons. Little did we know you would be blowing it up completely

The spotters were bored so they got their ipads out and fixed it

Thanks Rob, you make my day many times over with your fantastic model photos which I never tire of. Jeff, I'm all in favour of sticking to the prototype, after all, it worked for them so it should work for you. BTW, that centre column in the Bunker is reinforcement to stop it collapsing if you ever reverse the car into it Once you have constructed that substantial Fell then I am sure it could be removed Thanks for the welcome Jock, maybe I need to trim down the number of links I go to, over 200 at the moment, but I do enjoy reading and seeing what other poeple do. I guess I am a pc modeller Thanks Andy, we have crossed paths in the Lounge awhile ago, I'm the mick that has all your layout links in your own personal folder. As I said to Jock, I have many many more so maybe its time to go and do a bit of spring cleaning and sort them all out into some kind of index. I'm sorry I have to be another Mick, but as you are always taking the mick(ey) you should be able to cope

Hi Jeff, The best exercise is found reading KL, I'm always up and down off the floor laughing at some of the antics here. I found RMweb about three years ago whilst looking for history of Lincolnshire railways. I am not an active modeller but anything railway orientated be it full size or models gets my attention. There is a lot of East Coast stuff on RM which first drew my attention to the forums, Peterborough North, Little Bytham, Grantham, etc., then I somehow got side tracked by all of Andy Peters small layouts which somehow led me to the Lounge and from there to KL. Like any book I am not one who reads from the end backwards, so I started at page 1 and read through until page 507 without being tempted to skip a few places to find out who dunnit even though its taken a month or so to do it. Well what a delightful journey, full of twists and turns, so many characters imparting infinite knowledge and not a bad guy to be seen. There were one or two suggestions I was going to make along the way, but no, I couldn't do that as I was still a few hundred pages from the outcome so I resisted until the end. Most things were brought up by other people so that killed all my unique answers. As for KL2, I am in agreement that it needs a seperate blog, and could I suggest some changes to the latest plan: 1. Move the NER fiddle yard into the top corner with curvered loops thereby creating a larger access area next to the main fiddle yard. 2. Pivot the viaduct from point A, and the station curve outwards as arrowed at bit more to present the viaduct arch more square on to the NER line where is passes under the viaduct. 3. Split the stream at the top and have it coming under the road (another bridge to build) Other thoughts: Would it be possible to have the UP half of the S&C FY more into the top corner, the DOWN half of the S&C FY more under the Fell, which could possibly give you an access area between the two. Would it make any sense to have a cross over from UP and Down lines at both ends of the main FY. I do like the seat on rails idea to get under the framework and I am sure you could lower the height of the boards if you wanted to by using that method. Beleive me, nobody crawls when you get older. You could always have an outside staircase to the Bunker loft then slide down a firemans pole to the operating well. Oh dear, on that note I'm going before I catch anymore of this Lunester bug. mick

Thanks for the link Jock

PHEW! I've just spent a week reading through the whole thread Jason. What fanstasic modelling of the railway in the landscape, just the right balance of railway and scenery. The superalatives have all been said so all I'll say is I'm gobsmacked at the detail and workmanship you have produced. I think I need to go and lie down in the Lounge to recover, but before that I would just like to comment on the backscene issue. I am not always in favour, Andy Y's b/w street scene with the photoshopped background is superb - your house beyond the railway bridge just gives so much depth to the scene. If you were to physically attached that background as backscene to the edge of the boards then it would not look right at all IMO. You would get shadows of buildings etc. cast onto it and it would always be in the same place relative to those buildings wherever you viewed it from in the room. The only way I could see it working would be to have the backscene fixed to the walls of the room (and across the window) which would be well away from the back edge of the layout. Viewing from the front would then give the impression of a more 3D effect where your buildings would seem to move against the backscene when looking from different viewpoints. Problem is it would have to be 3 or 4 feet in height to accomondate sitting or standing views. AndyP is a dab hand at backscenes, perhaps he could come round and paint your walls

Don't forget the annual Splading Flower (Tulip) Parade which started in May 1958. An excuse to run an excursion or two with something out of the ordinary.

They ran through alright, but the smell of all that fish lasted far far longer

Just catching up after being away for a while. Lots of nice photos as usual BTW your catfish is a Plecostomus. They can grow quite large but its not ready to eat you yet

Yes, apologies if this has been posted before.

Don't forget you've got to fit those telegraph poles in.

Yes, it is the North side. The photo came from here: http://www.geolocation.ws/nearby/en?loc=52.578699,-0.252493 I used to walk along Westwood Street to work in the late sixties. All I seem to remember was that the terrace houses were grubby, much the same colour as the railway buildings on the South side of Spital Bridge. I fact the whole way from the station up to the Triangle at New England was quite dismal back then. As has been metioned before the whole of Westwood Street to its junction with Westwood Brigde was demolished to make way for the dual carraigeway of Bourges Boulevard. Going North from Westwood Bridge to the Triangle was Wimpole Street. A small section of this still remains which is also called Bourges Boulevard, Google maps shows it as such running parallel to the dual carraigeway of the same name. Wimpole Street was mainly upperclass semi-detached houses, but still grubby all the same. I know its getting away from your station area but there was a lot of railway in Peterborough and a lot of history to go with it. It is just a shame that I was distracted by beer and beauties at the wrong time to take in the rapidly changing infrastructure at the time

This photo shows Westwood Street and the infamous brick wall taken from Spital Bridge. Station Pilot at Spital Junction, Peterborough North View eastward from Spital Bridge, 69593 is passing Spital Up Goods Yard.

Looks like part of your wall is still there: http://goo.gl/maps/yd8i2