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Coming late to this thread, but to call the new museum a crap is in fact being generous It is worse thsn crap, they had a bloody good museum in the previous one a lovely glasgow street, A car showroom you could walk around The best display of ship models i have ever seen ( notwithstanding the model of my dads old ship HMS Dido) Getting up close to the buses and trams and trolleybuses Now it is just a soulless collection with no rhyme or reason Locos separated from the tenders Cars on shelves showing all the rust underneath???? Motorbikes where yo cannot work out which is which Go to Summerlease (sp/) a museum that IS a museum calling it Crap is giving it credit it doesnt deserve It is the kings new clothes Some poor sap got sucked in by some smooth talking smoothie and lost the plot completely If i never went there again it will be too soon A total disappointemet and disaster on what went before Glasgow should hang its head in shame

Jason you said earlier Now they are being put in a shed which is not weatherproof and not open to the public. Apparently an enthusiast even paid for the repaint of Waddon and looked after it as it was stored outside for years in terrible Canadian winters. Where did you get this complete load of tosh from?

details NORFOLK AND WESTERN CLASS Y6A #2156 Class Specifications Quantity Built: 16 Locomotive and Tender Combined Length: 114’ 10.5” Weight: 582,900 lbs. Horsepower: 5600 hp at 25 mph Boiler Pressure: 300 psi Speed: 50 mph Trucks: 2-8-8-2 Tractive Effort: Compound—127,000 pounds-force (lbf)/Simple—152,206 lbf Driver Diameter: 57” original, 58″ modified SP Cab in front ower type Steam Builder Baldwin Locomotive Works Serial number 70101 Build date March 1944 hideSpecifications Configuration: ​ • Whyte 4-8-8-2 Articulated Consolidation Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge Driver dia. 63 in (1,600 mm) Minimum curve 319.62 ft (97.42 m) radius or 18° Wheelbase 112 ft 2 in (34.19 m) (engine 67 ft 0.25 in or 20.43 m)(driver 44 ft 7 in or 13.59 m) Length 123 ft 8 in (37.69 m) (loco 78 ft 11 in or 24.05 m) Width 10 ft 0 in (3.05 m) Height 16 ft 4 in (4.98 m) Adhesive weight 531,700 lb (241,200 kg; 241.2 t) Loco weight 657,900 lb (298,400 kg; 298.4 t)[1](boiler empty 576,800 lb) [2][page needed] Tender weight 393,300 lb (178,400 kg) (empty 160,000 lb or 73,000 kg) Total weight 1,051,200 lb (476,800 kg) Tender type Rectangular Model 220-R-6 Fuel type Bunker C (#6 fuel oil) Water cap Boiler 10,935 US gal (41,390 l; 9,105 imp gal) / Nathan 4000-C Non-Lifting Injector 12,000 gal/h (45 m3/h; 10,000 imp gal/h) Tender cap. 6,100 US gal (23,000 l; 5,100 imp gal) Oil 22,000 US gal (83,000 l; 18,000 imp gal) Water Sandbox cap. 2 short tons (1.8 t; 1.8 long tons) to front 3 drivers of both engines Firebox: • Firegrate area 139 sq ft (12.9 m2) Boiler Diameter 108.125 in (2,746 mm) Boiler pressure 250 psi (1.7 MPa) Feedwater heater Worthington Type A6 Heating surface: • Tubes 3,456 sq ft (321.1 m2) • Flues 1,834 sq ft (170.4 m2) • Tubes and flues 240 tubes / 91 flues • Firebox 1,700 °F (930 °C) Superheater Elesco Type E Cylinder size 24 in × 32 in (610 mm × 810 mm) dia × stroke BIg Boy Whyte 4-8-8-4 • UIC (2′D)D2′ h4 Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge Leading dia. 36 in (914 mm) Driver dia. 68 in (1,727 mm) Trailing dia. 42 in (1,067 mm) Wheelbase 72 ft 5.5 in (22.09 m) Length Locomotive: 85 ft 3.4 in (25.99 m) Overall: 132 ft 9 1⁄4 in (40.47 m) Width 11 ft (3.4 m) Height 16 ft 2 1⁄2 in (4.94 m) Axle load 67,800 lb (30,800 kg) Adhesive weight 540,000 lb (245,000 kg) Loco weight 762,000 lb (345,600 kg) (381t) Tender weight 342,200 lb (155,220 kg) (2/3 load) Total weight 1,250,000 lb (567,000 kg) Fuel type Coal, #4014 being converted to No 5. Fuel oil Fuel capacity 28 short tons (25.4 t; 25.0 long tons) Water cap 25,000 US gal (95,000 l; 21,000 imp gal) Firebox: • Firegrate area 150 sq ft (14 m2) Boiler 95 in (2,400 mm) Boiler pressure 300 lbf/in2 (2.1 MPa) Heating surface 5,735 sq ft (533 m2) • Tubes and flues 5,035 sq ft (468 m2) • Firebox 720 sq ft (67 m2) Superheater: ​ • Type Type E (Locomotives 4000-4019), Type A (Locomotives 4020-4024) • Heating area 2,043 sq ft (190 m2) Cylinders 4 Cylinder size 23.75 in × 32 in (603 mm × 813 mm) So the Big Boy in full working order is 558 tons!

SP 4294 at Sacremento 4014 Big boy boiler at the UP workshops Cheyenne NW 2156 at Roanoake ( those cylinders are 39in bore!! I have one of the rear of the big boy tender but it is spoilt by a Brit posing in front of it!!

Here they are last year

Kevin Your post of 9/10 gives the impression that the discount is still available.Is this so?

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Well, if it helps I did a coast to coast trip last year across the US visiting museums and getting a tour around the UP workshops!! ( a talk is under construction and just needs a digital projector being made available, only travelling costs! involved) This followed up ones in 1991 and 2001 Sep,( now that was a barrel of laughs) so this is kosher info 1 Green Bay No 9 in 1991 pained B awful with ally painted motion and located in a open ended shed Now fully enclosed with Eisenhowers carriage behind it ,next to a Big Boy and a GG-1 2 Delton No 10 in 2001 in a closed shed, although you could walk through the tender, Now in the main museum with a pit to walk under AND the middle Con Rod is missing Seriously if any clubs want a talk, i can give a couple depending if you are interested in planes and cars as well!

Too true!!

Found it on another site.... Must be getting old!

I am sure i posted on a thread about what new steam locos you would like to see built, but i cannot find it, or was i dreaming?

Graham I do know John and he is a most charming man, with great stories about his time with ScotRail, and has given this much thought. I, with tongue firmly in cheek, told him when all this animosity toward his decision was rife, and backed him up......His loco..His rules.... and chided him that if one engine was to be 'benched' it should be the A$ as they are 10 a penny, but the K4...that is a different kettle of fish.

Wickham and Jim Thanks for your time and info Much appreciated

Been trying every combination i can think of to find this Society on the web There is a lot of stuff on Pullman Crs in what appears to be monthly/quarterly mags Any pointers appreciated

Thanks Much appreciated

Going through some old slides last night a found one of a coach i took in possibly Waverley Station in the early 80's Looks like either some form of dining car or a Div managers saloon However it was in Blue/grey and numbered SC1999 Anyone out there can shed some light please?

That example shown at the top of this thread is mor like the Scottish region blue BUT GER blue is is certainly not ( unless all the dark blue pigment is at the bottom of the tin waiting to be mixed in)

IIRC there was an original Claud in 5in gauge at the old North Woolwich museum The blue was much darker than the example shown, and even then it still looks a bit lighter than the sausage totem. blue May e sworth putting out feelres to the LNER Study group, or better still the GERS

Bomag, do you know i am not sure if non members can attend. If getting to Donny is a 5min trip then perhaps turn up as a prospective member? Like you, if push came to shove, i would sell my house to see the K4 still in steam. Ahhh the N7. Travelled behind it more times than i care to remember

To Heydon and all the other keyboard warriors who are bad mouthing John heres an invite Get off your fat backsides and come to the Gresley Meeting in Doncaster next Sat 7/7 You might have the chance to show us just how big a man you are as there is a good chance of him being there See you there........Thought not So put up or shut up please

Eddie No it was definitely on the Hertford Road, LH side heading south. I lived about 2 mile fro there ans saw it on a regular basis. It may well have been moved to southbury after i moved away

There used to be one ( or two?) of these sited in a builders yard on the A1010 just north of Ponders End. (70s-80s) It was a bit terrifying to come around the left hand bend and suddenly be faced with a massive loco ,appearing to be heading towards you

If you have Sky and can get ch 343 Talking pictures. watch out for the BFI film Waverley Steps and another one called 'The Last Journey' Genuine 1935 GWR in all its glory, there are some continuity errors, eg the goods train changes engines acouple of times ,but great shots of Ranelagh Bridge Yard

Another candidate for the Darwin award http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513615/Terrifying-moment-car-gets-trapped-INSIDE-level-crossing-train-approaches.html

This is a new channel that shows a lot of 1950's british 'B@ movies. For those of us not old enough to remember the normal night out at the 'cinema' was Cartoon 'B' movie Pathe News ( or similar) Look at Life (ditto) Main film This ran for three 'loops' and entrance was at anytime and you could stay as long as you like,but most people tried to arrive before the main started and just waited until the bit they came in at , be it The Cartoon or whatever came around again. The B pics were normally rubbish, but now and again some good ones popped up. This Channel is showing lots of them of various quality,and are worth watching if only for the 1930-60's street scenes So This Sat at 17.50 there is a film on called 'The Last Journey' (1936) which is about a GWR driver about to retire and suspects his wife of having an affair. Now i am not by a long chalk a GWR nut but look out the 'background scenes' and the continuity errors So sit back and enjoy the nostalgia