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1 hour ago, The White Rabbit said:

 

I've seen worse...

 

I'll tell my two that they must try harder !! LoL

13 hours ago, BetweenTheTunnels said:

Well my workbench has ground to a halt just lately, as work trips away and family life have taken over. Hoping to get back on with things slowly.  I've been sat pondering the bogies for the Mk1 and Gresley coaches that I've been designing, and it brought me to a query...

 

What is the accepted standard for 3mm - compensated or not - when it comes to coach bogies.  Hopefully each will be fitted with pick-ups feeding to a bespoke PCB strip i've designed for the lighting, which will have a capacitor (or battery) / dcc function decoder built in for lighting.  Part of me says going for compensated design should lead to smoother running, but as im hand-building the trackwork anyway, another part of me says its not needed?

 

The bogies are an etched nickle silver design, onto which 3mm Society bogie frames will be mounted. 

 

Anyone, any thoughts?

Richie

Likewise I'm not an accomplished coach builder (yet) but I can vouch for the MJT compensated bogie kits that the Society and possibly 3SMR sell.

I found them easy to solder together for the two 'part built' Branchlines SR coaches that I started many moons ago. My 3mm mentor (Alan Smith) has used them on many of his 12mm gauge coaches over the years and I have first hand experience of playing ... err ... I mean operating with them on his Everingham layout, mind you his track is always pretty good as well.

I can't comment on whether or not compensation is necessary or not but these little bogie units certainly do a good job.

Regards,

Ian.

I'm afraid that the Hunslet looks very open to the elements with no side windows and the doors wide open !

... and looking over the Shipley side of the viaduct (and trying not to get drenched from a large puddle by passing cars !)

I would have liked to have taken one more photo from a bit further to the right but in the interest of not being drowned chickened out !! LoL

Regards,

Ian.

22 hours ago, Ben B said:

 

Cracking photos! Incidentally, the scrapyard is now being cleared and redeveloped, though happily still for railway use. It's going to house a servicing point and depot for Northern, for the Airedale and Wharfedale EMU fleets apparently. Always wish I'd made more effort to photograph the scrap trains when I moved to the area in 2007, they were still just about clinging on. And I wonder what will happen to the industrial diesels still on site...

View from bridge on a very wet day this morning ... please excuse the 2024 photos on a 1970s thread but I hope that you all agree the relevance as it looks like the end of this site on the Industrial Railway map.

From the Bradford side of the viaduct :

The Ruston.

The Hunslet (which I think was the one that worked at Esholt and named 'Prince of Wales.')

The possible new Northern Rail depot area.

Hope that you all enjoy the day ... and the cake !

Regards from a very wet West Yorkshire ... wish I was there !

Ian.

1 hour ago, young37215 said:

Bachmann have announced they will produce a new BSO in their Mk1 range with a BSOT included in the variants to be made. 

 

 

 I saw this yesterday but decided not to post as it's the cruel old adage of 'no sooner have you just finished a model than somebody brings one out !'

At least you have the satisfaction of knowing that your models are very much your own, hard fought work.

However, I may not rush into trying to chop up my BCK / BSK 'conversion' coaches just yet in the hope that Bachmann may now shrink their new coaches down to N gauge, which I wasn't looking forward to anyway.

Regards,

Ian.

2 hours ago, Ben B said:

 

Cracking photos! Incidentally, the scrapyard is now being cleared and redeveloped, though happily still for railway use. It's going to house a servicing point and depot for Northern, for the Airedale and Wharfedale EMU fleets apparently. Always wish I'd made more effort to photograph the scrap trains when I moved to the area in 2007, they were still just about clinging on. And I wonder what will happen to the industrial diesels still on site...

Only a couple of miles from me so I'll have to go and have a nosey.

On 25/04/2024 at 21:36, TT100 Diesels said:

 

Hi Phil,

 

Better pic of your 26 than mine up thread, and great pix of 401. LL 37's just 'pop' 👍.

 

Re mini ploughs, on 37's they are all hung off the underside of the buffer beam. Probably are on most / all other classes but can't say for certain.

 

As for my model of 403, I mounted them onto the bogie transom as it was a very handy and easy and logical way to do it on a model. They sit in about the correct position as if hung from the buffer beam. I did it like this as the transom was thicker and projects forward more than the real locos. 

 

So two problems, if modelling them off the buffer beam, first the model transom likely to foul them om bogie rotation and the fixings would be harder to model and the whole set up more fragile. 

 

The bonus feature of bogie mounting on this particular model is that the buffer beam pipes etc can be fitted and will not be fouled by the ploughs. At least it looked that way when I did the development mock ups. Hope that still comes to pass when I get to the fitting them stage 🤔.

 

Your 26 ploughs look more to scale thickness I must say,  but my plasticard ones don't look too bad, and they will also get weathered.

 

 

Plonked the body back on the chassis and took this shot. Pleases my eye anyway!

 

Cheers

 

D.

Although I've been very quiet this week (due to being on nights) I'm watching this build avidly, Dave, the West Highland Line being very close to my heart.

Coming along very nicely.

Regards,

Ian.

How did I not know about this thread ?

Introducing Archie (right) and his daughter Freya .... both had thought that rolling in fox poo had made themselves more photogenic ... until they got home !!

On 26/04/2024 at 22:44, johnlambert said:

I think first generation DMU vehicles were treated a lot like locos and individual carriages, with maintenance schedules for each individual vehicle. And sets were assembled as required from whatever was available to try and meet the needs of the diagrammed services. As things got older and more decrepit the DMUs might not even be the same class within a two, three (or more) car set. Because the couplings, brakes and (where fitted) gangways were standard; there were no computers to say "no".

I was at one point seriously considering modelling a DMU depot based on Hammerton Street (Bradford) as an exhibition / home layout for the reasons you mention ie. many different types types, colours and lengths of units that could either be moved as a complete train or shunted around the depot by one of the resident shunters (as per my 03060 avatar);  the odd broken down set being towed in behind a loco, sets arriving and departing from/to the local station for refuelling ... it could be quite interesting to operate with lots of movements ... a bit like a 'station' layout but without the passengers and a different take on the usual TMD layout !

Food for thought.

Regards,

Ian.

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I've found the Facebook post again and there have now been several replies saying what you're saying but also pointing to known cases in the 1960s when the banker wasn't coupled up. The photo of the model could be interpreted as being shortly after the guard had uncoupled - but long enough after for him to have gone back into the cabin!

The caption on p.151 mentions that if the banking loco wasn't fitted with the 'special' uncoupling hook on the smokebox handrail then the train stopped in Binegar station to uncouple the banker to allow it to drop off near to the summit.

Regards,

Ian.

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

 

There was a photo recently on a Facebook group devoted to "Realistic Railway Modelling" of a 4 mm (IIRC) S&DJR layout with the banker - an LMS standard 3F 0-6-0T, Bagnall to you, Jinty to the hoi polloi - dropping off the rear of a freight (I think this was on the other side of the hill to you). I asked what prototype practice was, since my understanding is that the general rule was that the banker should be coupled to the train it was assisting - following accidents in which trains had left the banker behind and the banker had then caught up, violently; this would mean coming to a stand at the top of the bank, to uncouple, though in some instances slip couplings were used, which exposes everyone to the same risk of catching up. However, there were many exceptions to the rule, the Lickey Incline being one such. So I was wondering what the rules or exceptions were on the S&DJR in your period.

 

Needless to say, I didn't get a reply to my question from the Facebook poster!

Hello Stephen,

There's footage of this practice being carried out on the S&D (all be it in BR days) on one of the many DVDs in my collection, I'll see if I can find it later but IIRC the banking loco (a 3F tank) was attached to the train at Radstock up to just short of Masbury summit with the brake van guard then uncoupling it on the move, using a special hook attached to the banker's smokebox door, so allowing the banker to 'drop off' and return wrong line back down the incline to Binegar.

According to p.146 in the Pictorial Atlas of the S&DJR (part 1) this practice was brought into force from Oct 10th 1927 due to an economic measure relating to a reduction of hours of Masbury signal box being in use. There's also more information about the practice on p.151.

We tried to include this feature on our (Leeds MRS) model of Masbury station but trying to be clever with conventional DC and two controllers it never really worked very well and as it took place almost as soon as the train banker appeared in view we decided not to bother again with it. I think that I later removed the switch and wiring as it just caused us confusion the next time that we exhibited it.

I do however (as I now own the layout) sometimes run the bankers into the station area as if there has been an issue with uncoupling and allow them to use the crossover by the platforms to return just for extra interest.

Regards,

Ian.

1 hour ago, chesterfield said:

My April RM arrived this morning and SWAG is 20000 kms away so will continue waitng

I'm just about to go and collect my first RUB 77L from my local Argos having read both this article and followed the path of @Gilbert's Lockdown Fen on here ... I've got some ideas going on in my head ... if I can make them fit ?

Thanks for the inspiration.

Regards,

Ian.

Fully agree with Dave's ( @TT100 Diesels ) comments regarding the Macclesfield show, a good exhibition all round and a great advert for our scale with the 2 layouts on show and the collection of diesels on display for which I overheard many favourable comments from non 3mm folk.

With our numbers being into double figures it was a great mini-convention and a good chance to have one-to-one conversations and for me personally to  'connect' with members who I knew previously only either by name or face.

A good day out and a great inspiration to get back to either my workbench or rejoining my Masbury layout back together tomorrow before starting a week of night shifts.

Regards,

Ian.

I saw Delyn-Y-Coed at Sheffield last week and am coming over for another look today at Macclesfield as it was always a favourite of mine in it's previous life, along with Heybridge Wharf of course.

I'm also using it as a reconnaissance trip as I've been provisionally asked if I will bring Masbury over next year if it all works when I join it back together !

I'll bob my maroon Society t-shirt on if anybody wants to say hello. (Crew cut and shorts will be another giveaway !)

Regards,

Ian.

Great model Dave, you've certainly captured the essence of the prototype from Lenny's 'starting point.'

You've painted and weathered it just as I remember them. Marvellous.

Regards,

Ian.

39 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

I’ve got a quiet couple of hours, so one photo from before I left. This is my attempt to back date the station building in a similar way to the signalbox.

 

 

 

I’m trying to recreate this look (Irishswissernie to the rescue again - thanks).

 

In terms of a ‘spot the difference’ competition, I can see that I need to remove the station name, add an advertising board and add the toilet walls. The bit I’m struggling on is the colour of the chimney stacks which are rather nondescript in all the photos I can see. 
 

Does anyone have any ideas on the chimney stacks or any other things I’ve missed?

 

Andy

 

Yellow litter bin, timetable board next to the arch, 2 hanging baskets out in front of the arch and obviously the circular flower tubs but I'm sure that you've already noticed these.

As regards the chimney stack 'I would suggest' that they are rendered stone or more likely brickwork but I think they are looking quite dark as they are wet after a spell of rain (looking around  at the roof slates, platform surface and the sheen on some of the platform edging.) I would 'imagine' that that they would be more of a fawn or buff colour when dry so I suppose it depends on whether you are modelling Glenfinnan on a damp or dry day ? I'll check some of my photos later to see if I have any clearer views.

Looking very good though and at least these are only small details.

Hope you are enjoying the trip.

Regards,

Ian.

12 hours ago, AY Mod said:

 

It won't be.

 

As this looks like an issue only affecting a small number of people it may relate to a browser update. I'd suggest clearing any RMweb cookies and history from the browser and login afresh to recreate cookies.

Still the same for me, I'm afraid. As suggested it could be an issue with my browser (Chrome) which I have known for a while won't update with newer versions as it no longer recognises my tablet system.

I'll get my 'techy' son to have a look later ... but it may just be time for a new tablet !!

Of note I'd also lost a few features from my phone version when I first went on this morning (couldn't react to posts) until I signed out and back in again... seems to be working fine now.

Thanks for your help Andy.

Regards,

Ian.

10 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

It won't be.

 

As this looks like an issue only affecting a small number of people it may relate to a browser update. I'd suggest clearing any RMweb cookies and history from the browser and login afresh to recreate cookies.

Thanks Andy, I'll give that a go. Just seemed strange that it was on both of my tablets, of which one (the iPad) I barely ,if ever, use.

Regards,

Ian.

On 30/03/2024 at 18:12, Penrhos1920 said:

Over the past week or so it has become almost impossible to view RMweb on my old iPad.  The hamburger menu no longer works at all. And photos aren’t being displayed.  What is the  minimum iOS required to view RMWeb?

I'm experiencing this same problem on both of my tablets, one is an old Samsung Tab 2 whilst the other is an iPad of unknown age.

I can access all of my normal threads as usual but images aren't being displayed and at the bottom of each post I can only either 'bookmark' or 'report' with no options for quoting available. The reaction button automatically gives me a 'like' without showing me any other options and the 'reply' section is now a single line, unusable box ??

Everything else looks the same. The problems seems to have started around the same time as we lost the top headline banner in red stating that the Classified Ads section was temporarily out of use, so I wonder if it's a problem with the revamped version ?

Luckily I still have full use on my iPhone but this is really not my favourite way of using the site as whilst I find it easier to add photos via the phone I haven't worked out how to use and add 'links' when posting.

Do you know if Andy is aware of these issues please ?

Regards,

Ian.

33 minutes ago, t-b-g said:

 

I have a vague recollection of seeing a photo of an 08 with a shunter's truck attached to it at Doncaster. The wagon type was different as it was a former brake van chassis, which still had the concrete blocks on the ends. It is ages since I saw the photo and I can't remember where I saw it but you needn't feel that it is totally wrong to have an 08 with a shunter's wagon/match truck attached.

I've also seen a photo very recently of an 08 with match truck working at Edinburgh station to help with track circuits which I'll try and find again.

Thanks for the replies @acg5324 and @PaulCheffus regarding the van parts  which I'll look into; whilst I'm reasonably handy with my brasswork soldering, resin casting is a skill I am aware that I need to develop and has come up recently in conversation with another RM Web modeller so now may be the time to tackle it.

I'd already been aware of Paul's first ferry van having looked on his website ... marvellous modelling !

Thanks again,

Ian.

16 minutes ago, PaulCheffus said:

Hi

 

It's made from various thicknesses of plasticard and microstrip. The W Irons, wheels, vacuum cylinder, buffer heads, axleboxes and springs are from the 2mm SA. The air cylinder and distributor are from the TPM 100T tanker detailing set.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

I bought a couple of ferryvan chassis  at Doncaster from the society to make a couple of these (having found a photo of 2 of them at Oban and in other WHL photos) so your photos are a great encouragement. I take it from Andy's comments and the fact that you are now resin casting these that the etches are no longer available ?

Regards,

Ian.

Just arrived this week for the workbench, 2nd hand from a shop on the IOW, is this Hobby Holidays chassis jig and rolling road unit which are no longer available, so was snapped up once I saw the advert in an email.

I do own a couple of other types of chassis jig which are a bit more enclosed than this one but found them a little awkward to get in at with the soldering iron last time I tried them, hence the decision to try this more open type.

Thinking about it I may even have another type which is more similar to the ones being currently sold by the Society ... Hmmm ... I'll have to check my workbench drawer area again as I've probably never even tried it.

I've got a lot of flat pack steam loco kits in the stash so anything that aids an accurate 'first time right' free rolling chassis is money well spent in my book ... this latest one being considerably more expensive than the Society ones but I like the look of it ! 
 

I will report back when I've had a go with it in a couple of months time.

Regards,

Ian.