lightengine

Even if the railway gets re routed via Okehampton the sea wall still has to be maintained. I am not up on rail financial facts but paying two costs when combining them into one does seem unlikely.

beg your pudding?

It's mostly raining quite a lot in sunny Teignmouth today although Babbacombe is still visible.

Herve is my favourite stinky cheese but being Belgian it's probably not available here.  Newton Abbot market stocks Stinking Bishop, so it's not all bad.

Happy birthday Brian from darkest Devon

49 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said:

 

My late father trained me similarly.

 

President is far too bland in either style. Almost like somerset brie

 

Lidls do sometimes have Brie de Meaux as do some Tes Cos and Sains berries but I will keep a look put for Le Rustique.

 

The best Camembert I ever had was removed from its plastic wrapper, re-wrapped in aluminIum foil and placed back in its box then buried in the dying coals of a barbecue; 'eaten' with a spoon, it was delicious!

We often oven bake a camembert with a little white wine in the cut top and sometimes with lardons on the top.

11 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said:

 

If you like Brie cheese, try Brie de Meaux. Has much more flavour than the normal wishy-washy bries one finds both from France and the UK!. Made with ewes milk.

If you can't get Brie de Meaux, Le Rustique Brie & Camembert is pretty good.  My wife trained me to take the box lid off and press the centre of the cheese to see if it was ripe enough to buy and eat.  President brie and camembert is not quite so nice.

1 hour ago, bbishop said:

 

Men are offered a check at the age of about 65.  If you pass, that's it for life.  If you fail, it's an (annual?) check.  About 1 in 1000 get a trip in a yellow truck.

I passed.

Bill

I never understand this. Why does it only affect you at 65?   Why not 64.5 or 66?  How come it is that specific?

We have a meeting in Teignmouth tomorrow and next Weds (which I can make) to see plans and discuss.

Two of my favourites are

Disturbed...... Sound of Silence 

and

Alpha Blondie ....... I Wish You Were Here

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/plans-unveiled-protect-dawlish-railway-2962444?????

1 hour ago, guzzler17 said:

OK I'll bite on this subject having read both this thread and the earlier one when the seawall was breached.

 

So if you cannot go around the problem, Heathfield / Okehampton etc, and it might be a bad idea to "fix" the line either in place or move it slightly out to sea what options are left?

 

How about a tunnel that starts near Dawlish Warren and surfaces just before the A379 River Teign bridge?

 

Dawlish Warren station could be partly undergound with fully underground stations for Dawlish (say under Dawlish Lawn) and Teignmouth (under the Dawlish Road car park).

 

OK so no more nice views of the sea from the train but also no more washouts.

 

Given current tunnelling technology how hard would it be to dig a 6 mile double track tunnel?

 

No answers required people i.e. don't shoot the messenger.   I've just looked at this matter in order to give the grey cells some exercise.

Nice idea. Dawlish Lawn floods at times. 

If you built a new station under the Dawlish Road carpark you might just as well realign the track and use the present station as it would only be about 200 yards away, open to the air and away from the sea.

2 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Spot of land reclamation Dutch style would solve the issue in the short term but it might not be popular with the locals.

That is pretty much what they plan.  Build a new sea wall some distance seaward of the present one, back fill it and slew the track seawards away from the cliff.  We will then end up with a path on both sides of the railway line, instead of just seaward as is present.

1 minute ago, royaloak said:

Maybe if they had maintained the groins (spelling?) the sand wouldnt have disappeared in the first place, the same goes for Dawlish beach.

This is true, as anyone that understands long shore drift will know.  The groyne that was repaired cost approx £500,000 (iirc from the councillor) whole new planks were just torn off. This was the westernmost groyne by The Point.  Nearly all the others are in a worse state than this one.

Recently the loss of sand on Teignmouth town beach has been of concern to locals. The sand has also vanished from The Point by the harbour entrance. Dredging of the river channel between Teignmouth and Shaldon in recent months may have helped this sand loss.

Whilst the sand was vanishing from the town beach it was building up, much quicker than longshore drift, to the east of the town.

East of Sprey Point, where Teignmouth is "lettered" there are some large rocks on the beach immediately adjacent to the Sprey Point wall.  Last October these rocks, about 4 feet high in places and for a distance of 20 metres or so, were fully visible.  A few weeks ago when I went there the sand had covered them completely and nothing was visible. 

Sometimes sand removal and replacement happens within days/weeks and sometimes the 2 are much further apart.

The lack of groynes on the beach doesn't help with retaining sand.  One groyne repaired last year has already fallen apart.

The Holcombe stretch of the beach is hardly used compared to the other stretches of beach.

Following on from last weeks hail storms and high, tree toppling, winds Belgium yesterday had huge amounts of flooding in parts of the country. I guess it was similar to what parts of the UK received yesterday.

We seem to be fairly safe here as we are quite high up, but so is Dawlish station which stands several metres above road level and one end of it opens towards the promenade.  Even so the station has flooded between the platforms.  How does that work?

Weather in sunny Teignmouth is today variable. Babbacombe is visible at present but 20 mins ago was unavailable for a sighting. 

The illuminated Waitrose signs were proudly powered by electricity last night despite the shop having finally closed at 4pm on Sunday. If it is to become Lidl as is suggested it will be a pretty mahoosive one.  I wonder what becomes of the car park for the interim period?  Just adjacent to the town I would hope it was left open but I doubt it will be.

Today I will mostly be supporting Belgium!

Good to see the Irish tonk the mighty Gibraltar

We had at least one road that had been resurfaced with tarmac back whenever it was done.  Every time a major hole was dug for one of the services the old wooden block road surface was revealed and broken through.

The commentator thing is a concern with me. You get Glenn Hoddle chuntering on about putting balls into the pockets and running the channels etc and then you get the female "she kicked the ball into the area."

The female commentators are just as bad. They have the talk but not the detail.

3rd place playoff, as much fun as picking mouse droppings out of your porridge.

In Teignmouth today it has mostly been sunny & dry.

I heard the A4 pass through this eve enroute from somewhere.