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44 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Well, if it had looked anything like this:

 

 

... I think that would have been my reaction too but perhaps not quite in the sense you meant, @Miss Prism!

 

NB. Before anyone starts picking the nits off me, I know that's not a first but a centre-kitchen composite to WCJS Diagram 10; it was the first postable picture of a Wolverton diner I could lay my hands on.

And what an absoloute beauty you picked

Telephone contact now added

On ‎26‎/‎09‎/‎2019 at 10:57, Signalman Rich said:

The book looks really interesting. However when I tried to ring the number listed above I heard "The number has not been recognized." Would it be possible to check and find the correct number please and then post a correction?  Thanks in anticipation.

Best wishes

Rich

Hi Rich - Phone number amended - my typo error - apologies - David

On ‎30‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 11:27, airnimal said:

Yesterday the postman brought me a new book from the LNWR society. And what a fabulous book it is. 

For any one wishing to model the Victorian era and the LNWR in particular it is a must. 

The book is about a railway worker from a long forgotten time working very long hours at a time when the health and safety brigade were not invented.

The book is illustrated with large format photographs that are clear and well printed. I have seen a lot of them before but not all together in one place and there some new to me. A couple of an accident at Leek  Wooton near Kenilworth are magnificent with some early wagons in great distress.

 

I have not been in the workshop while all the family visit but I have secured a pass out to Telford for the GOG meet providing I am back home early on Sunday for a large family gathering. 

 

 

For those who may be interested, I have posted the contact details for non-society members to obtain copies of Thomas Baron over in the books section at the link below

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/18-books/

David

P.s. I very much enjoy reading your thread and admiring the models that you create.

The Diary of Thomas Baron. 1855-1862. A London and North Western Railway Engineman At Work. Edward Talbot

This new publication is based on the daily diary that Thomas Baron kept from the time that he started on the LNWR as a cleaner for a period of seven years and documents the locomotives that he worked upon and the places he travelled to. It not only provides information on the workings he participated in, but also provides an insight into the working conditions and long hours that employees of the time worked.  

The publication is illustrated by many period photographs and by several superb paintings by the renowned artist Gerald Broom. Period maps and photographs of models of period stock are also used to supplement the information in the text.

Attractively priced at £20, this 136-page publication is an important one for the student of the early years of the LNWR, and of railway conditions in general in the 19th Century. We are very proud of our publications, and we hope that we can share our pride in the Premier line with a bigger audience.  Your readers can obtain copies at £20 inc p+p by cheque or postal order from:

The L&NWRS, The Sales Officer, 58 Shire Road, Corby, Northants, NN17 2HN.

Paypal orders can be accepted at treasurer@lnwrs.org.uk Please state your name, postal address and ‘Thomas Baron’ in the payment transfer.

Debit/Credit Card orders can be accepted by calling 01536 681496.

BOOK REVIEW: The LNWR 42ft Carriages of Richard Bore by Richard Ball and Peter Chatham

Published by the LNWR Society. ISBN 978-0-9570158-3-8. Price £15.00

This scholarly book fills an important gap in the published history of LNWR coaches, that is the 111 carriages built between 1882-1885 to the designs of Richard Bore, who had been carriage superintendent of the company since 1860.  The first 42-footers were Sleeping Saloons, but these were followed by set trains for specific mainline services, including London to Liverpool and Manchester, the Irish Mail, and then London to Birmingham (but not the West Coast Joint Stock).  These vehicles laid the foundations for the numerous 42ft 0in coaches built by Park, of which the earliest made use of Webb's radial underframe.

The book describes all these vehicles in meticulous detail, with numerous illustrations and drawings/diagrams which have been specially prepared by Peter Chatham as few originals now survive. In parentheses, all the pre-1885 drawings and records were disposed of by the LMS as salvage in WW2.  So we are fortunate that so much has survived. Sources consulted include the Minute books, Diagram Books and other primary and secondary sources.  It should perhaps be mentioned that a good deal of the numbering information comes from the records of the late Richard Casserley who, together with your reviewer, copied the 1895 Wolverton stock register by hand in the 1970s.

I find it impossible to criticise any aspect of the book, which is a credit to its authors and to the Society.  Although a somewhat specialised subject, anyone with an interest in the LNWR will find much of interest in this book, which is recommended without reservation.  It will make a treasured addition to my library.

Philip A. Millard

2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Looks good - going above and beyond Millard and Tattersall's LNWR Non-Corridor Carriages? I really must get round to joining the Society...

Yes - Philip Millard has commented that: this book fills an important gap in the history of LNWR Carriages.

You can now join the society online at:

http://www.lnwrs.org.uk/Membership/membership.php

If you join before you buy a copy, then you can have it at the members rate. 

David, Chairman LNWRS. 

The 42ft Carriages of Richard Bore.

Based on meticulous research, mainly into LNWR original company documents, Richard Ball has produced a highly detailed history of these distinctive carriages, as they were originally built on F W Webb’s radial underframes, and as in many cases subsequently rebuilt to run on bogies.

Almost 50 photographs are included, many of them from the Society’s collection, with company diagrams and drawings of most of the types described. Because of the paucity of official carriage drawings from this period, many of them have been specially produced for the book by Peter Chatham. The side and end views are reproduced at a scale of 6mm to 1 foot, which is as large as allows the side views to be fitted across a page.

The book, which has over 50 pages, is laid out in A4 landscape format and wire bound so as to permit it to open flat and make the drawings readily visible. The colour covers are gloss laminated 350gsm card, with the inside pages printed on 115gsm glossy art paper.

This publication is attractively priced at £15 including postage and packaging within the UK. Overseas members please contact for postage quotation.

Copies can be obtained from the Sales Officer by sending a cheque made out to ‘LNWR Society’ to: Sales Officer, 58 Shire Road, Corby, NN17 2HN.

You can also call 01536 681496 and make card payments over the telephone.

Alternatively you can send £15 via Paypal to treasurer@lnwrs.org.uk, or Bank transfer £15 to ACC:90162272 and SC:20 57 40.  PLEASE state 42FT Bore Carriages and your name and address on the transfer.

**LNWR Society Members Please note that you can obtain a copy at a discounted rate (Contact Chairman or Sales Officer) and copies will be available at the AGM on June 8th and also at the Open Day at Kidderminster.**

Also, are you intending to enter this into the LNWR Modeling Challenge? (category 3)

See: 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/135921-lnwr-society-modelling-competition-framework-and-dates/page-1

David

Well as I am the Chairman of the LNWRS I will send you a PM 

David

Best
 
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Indeed! Dad was the last station master I actually found photos of him on the internet some years ago at an award ceremony for the transport staff. I was staggered! I am thinking of a book but material might be hard to come by. I have a fair bit but not sure of the quality. If LNWRS get in touch, I'll happily provide some words etc....

The last Station Master of Holywell....... Sounds like an article for the LNWR Journal to me......

Your scratch build is absolutely superb

Best

David

Hello Relaxinghobby

I am guessing that you based the model on the link below, which is the LNW Diagram 20 Small Cattle Wagon. I dont know if the LNW did build some for the L&Y, certainly at one point they built some engines for the L&Y I believe so wagons as well could be feasible, but the text in the link does say that 'other companies used similar vehicles.' 

http://lnwrs.org.uk/Wagons/cattle/Diag020.php

I agree that it looks a lovely model and I would certainly like to see it with the underframe attached. 

I have nudged one of those running the competition to come and answer your question regarding entry. 

David

Wow this build has progressed somewhat since I last visited. 

Loving the build itself, the box is taking shape, also very impressed with the developments in the lever frames and the use of lego to help the build, really thinking outside the box. 

The Society has some much older drawings etc stretching well back into the 1800's, you can happily lose yourself for hours studying them if you enjoy that kind of thing

Best

David

The book LNWR Liveries covers that topic I think

I might have missed the answer so if I have forgive me, I have seen this is 5 inch gauge but my question is how large will the end box be? This looks to be a very impressive entry

Best of Luck

David

Chairman LNWRs

I have very much have enjoyed reading the concept of this layout and look forwards to watching it develop, I am not aware of anyone having ever modeled this topic before. 

If you do wish to purchase a copy of the Crewe Works Narrow gauge book please PM me as I am also the Sales Officer

Best of Luck

David

LNWRs Chairman

I am looking forward to seeing this one develop, especially how you do the lining in 2mm. 

Best of luck 

David

This has piqued my interest - don't know why as I'm died-in-the-wool Midland (as Compound2632 knows...!), plus I've got more than enough on my plate. But a few wagons won't hurt will it....?!

Considering Wagons got pretty much everywhere at certain times a few would mix in very well on midland territory, much like I have built some midland wagons for my eventual layout

David

LNWRs Chairman

Plus they had the prototypes!

How I see it, as we are all building scaled down models, those fractional differences mean almost nothing.

While yes its ideal to not scale from drawings, we simply dont have that ability most of the time.

How I would love to trawl through the drawing records of the Midland, LNW, L&Y, drawings still existing and those long lost, I simply cant. The best I can hope for is the works drawings, GAs, and historical photos. There are certainly details drawn but not built, built but not drawn, but with a bit of woodworking knowledge most constructions can be figured out.

From general dimensions and a trusted drawing which measures proportionally at multiple points and directions, those few dimensions not stated can be figured out eventually to a high enough accuracy.

Well if you are ever in the UK I would be only too happy to Welcome you to the L&NWRS study centre for you to have a good look through the Society collection.

In the interim a list of the drawings we hold are in pdf form at this link. http://lnwrs.org.uk/archive01.php This is being added to all the time and there are also plans afoot to digitise the lot over a period of time, which well might make them available to you via digital transfer, this is a longer term project though.

P.s. Wagons Supp No1 went into the post last week so should hopefully be with you soon

For me at the moment its the wagon books I thumb most frequently though not a shock really as I am building up my wagon fleet slowly but surely.... one day I hope to have space for a layout and Jack will come into his own then

Sorry for hijacking the MRJ 261 thread chaps!

I can tell you that the price of this book will be £42.50.

 

It has been delayed by the Society continuing to make changes to what was a "final text".

 

I believe I will shortly have a final proof to check. I am not going to hurry this as it is a complex book which I really do not wish to get wrong, it is therefore difficult at this stage to commit to  a date. The book is definitely happening though and I hope people will consider all the effort, expense and, frankly, grief to have been worthwhile.

 

Simon

Simon,

Thanks for the information. I am sure that Like Volumes 1 and 2 before it, this book will become one of the most thumbed books on an LNWR Modeller's bookshelf, and I personally have no doubt that all the effort will be worth it. Thank you very much indeed for everything that you have put into it.

David

Does the advert for LNWR Wagons 3 have a price indicated please?

Where were these people looked a lot less to me. But perhaps I need to go to spec savers.

Marc

Got to agree with you Marc, I was thinking 100-130/40 people tops as members of the public wandering about, so im surprised at 201. Mind due to the cancelations the hall was out of balance and our end was less populated stand wise, understandable but might have had something to do with it

Is 201 the official guild figure?

Out of interest, do you recall what time the picture was taken?  Hopefully before the show opened, judging by the lack of crowds....

Sometime between half 8 and 9 after I had finished setting up