trevor7598

GENTLEMEN PLEASE! I'm sick and tired of the petty, handbag swinging squabbles on RM web lately. There's this one on the Kernow Railmotor page, and there were two bouts of handbag swinging on the Rails Terrier thread recently. Please argue by PM or e-mail, personally I just want to read about the models.

I totally agree about a sprung pivot post over the ' flopsy bunny ' bars for the front bogie. My Hornby Bulleid pacifics run fine, but their Gresley pacifics are prone to derail because of the horrible front bogie arrangement especially as the bogie is very light in weight. My Bachmann A1 and A2's also seem to cope very well, and don't suffer from frequent front bogie derailments. Flopsy bunny bars offer too much slop with too little control.

His one success was leading the Lambs to slaughter, ie, people sending him money for projects that never saw the light of day. I intensely disliked the " Hi Mate " in replies to questions. That's no way to address people you don't know. But, this may have led some people into thinking that DJ was becoming a personal friend, and producing a model just for them. Gaining peoples confidence in the early stages of his ' projects ' was something he was extremely good at. A good read of the class 92 thread, from how it starts out, to how it ends up is very revealing.

Not to mention the Liverpool St. station pilot in GE blue!.

My 32661 has a few very minor niggles, the worse one is the firebox flicker which sometimes does and sometimes doesn't, it has a mind of it's own. It was also very sticky straight from the box, but it has probably now travelled for an actual mile around my garden circuit, and now runs very sweetly. It is much quieter now and will crawl without stuttering. Lets hope the QC issues affecting some Terriers are ironed out for the forthcoming D, and much stricter QC is employed, and any duds are rejected in China, and not boxed up and sent over here. After all the D will cost nearly twice that of a Terrier so perfection should be the goal. I won't pre-order a D, I'll wait and see.

I'm wondering whether Hornby are back to their old tricks, by incorporating the odd ' teaser ' incidental to the main subject. They created a lot of froth and interest by doing this in the past. I agree with a previous post suggesting a Thompson Brake Composite.

I feel better now !. It could be an illusion but the loco on the left might have a wonky chimney. Also note what a minefield of detail differences there are between these two. Different chimneys, one on the left has sand boxes, a step and handrail on the tank front. 32678 on the right has neither. Perhaps some enterprising soul could produce some spark arrestors for the Terrier, a requirement on the Hayling Island branch.

As I've only had my Terrier model for a few hours, I thought I would check the chimney on mine. Here is a view as near head on as I could get it, and it seems OK. Some times a camera angle can distort things, but in the case of your 32655, that chimney is definitely wonky.

My late crest Terrier arrived this morning, and is now running in on my garden railway. I have to say that some of the criticism levelled against the model is a bit nit picking. The only thing that I am not totally happy with is the fit of the chimney cap. But all in all I'm glad I waited for the Rails version, although the wait was a little frustrating at times, especially as it was imminent nearly a year ago, but we didn't have a virus then!. It was a pity that the model was subject to so many corrections after the prototypes were shown. Surely with nine examples to measure and photograph in the UK, things like the spacing of the cab front spectacles should have been picked up before tooling. Never mind the model is here now and I'm generally delighted with it. Well done Rails/Dapol.

Is that an image of the corrected model ?. Issues as you describe were reported. Unless I am missing something, Rails seem to be using the same image from months ago.

Wow indeed!. But the market will decide in the long run. If you take the 2 EPB as an example, full RRP £ 219.99, but many retailers seem to be stuck with them and are offering them for around £ 110. Thank goodness the hyper inflation affecting Bachmann products recently does not apply to the daily products we all need to live on.

Presumably the Terriers will be despatched by Rails, as they have customer details. In my case they've had full payment for quite a while. Looking forward to a great model.

Tramshed. I wasn't aware that the Bulleid coaches were six months away. I have not seen any news on their progress for ages.

One phrase often used in adverts is ' it could cost a lot less than you'd think '. Well what the ++++ does that tell us!. Both Sainsbury's and BT have used that phrase. Another favourite is the huge sign in a shop window ' 75% off every thing ', and once you have crossed the street to look for those bargains you notice in tiny letters ' up to ', in other words nearly all other items on sale are near full price.

The interior view of the restaurant car is interesting as it shows one of the modernised cars with Rexine covered walls and loose seating. I believe two such cars were refurbished in this way for the ' Bournemouth Limitted '.

The out takes from that film survive. they includes several dummy runs onto the Forth Bridge in order to stop the train in the right place ( lovely fresh looking Gresley diner in the train ). There is also a sequence, with the camera placed in the open end gangway door, trailing out of Edinburgh Waverley. I believe I saw this superb footage at a Huntley film show some years back. Keep safe, keep well everyone.

Agreed. There are also some excellent ' handbag ' swinging sessions on RM web.

I think there will be a larger market for the Coronation Scot coaches if Hornby introduce them for the BR era as well. There's two more liveries to be exploited. At least we will see an open third as part of the range, albeit a specialist one. An ordinary LMS open third is a glaring omission from the ranges of LMS stock available in RTR, I am sure there would be a large market for the once numerous TO.

Very nicely weathered, Rob. Caked on filth was the order of the day for heavy freight loco's.

I well remember reading a Railway Modeller magazine of the time, announcing that Triang- Hornby were introducing a range of pre- nationalisation coaches. Being primarily a coaching stock enthusiast, I was naturally very excited that the days of MK 1 based Thompsons and Caledonian coaches might at last be over. But imagine my horror when the new range hit the shelves to find that the SR coaches were Collets painted green, albeit with a different roof, and the rest of the range were pretty awful too. How things have moved on !.

My vote for a good value for money model would have to go to Hornby's Thompson 01 2-8-0. At £98-99 from Rails of Sheffield, I think this is Excellent value. The loco runs very sweetly, and is ready to help out my Bachmann WD's on long coal trains.

It could be that your 4CEP has been exposed to excessive sunlight by it's previous owner. I have some EFE and Corgi buses where the windscreens have misted through exposure to sunlight.

The above reply has nothing to do with the Star. My apologies for going off topic.

Unfortunately Hornby's side corridor Maunsells have a design flaw. The panel joins have been omitted. This is particularly noticeable on the compartment side. There should be three pieces of steel sheeting represented, one above the quarterlights, one between the quarterlights and the tumblehome panel. There should be a cover strip over the panel joins represented on the models, they are missing. They did get this right on the open third and the restaurant car however.

I wouldn't try to defend the design clever era, two iconic loco's were spoilt by cost cutting, and may never be retooled to todays high standards, namely Cock O The North, and Duke of Gloucester. But one, to my mind, outstanding model from that era was the 2 HAL, there was nothing for Hornby to scan or measure the whole project must have relied on drawings for information. The commode handles were moulded on, but at least they are not prone to damage, and look fine. I don't own a Star, but again it looks to be one of the better Design Clever models.