5&9Models

2 hours ago, 45587 said:

I'd like to think that your hands are the size of King Kong's. But I suspect this is not so.

Thanks George. I now have an image of me modelling with one hand whist swiping away tiny biplanes with the other…! 😄

Thanks Camperdown, that’s very helpful and will provide me with another distraction. I did hear of someone tinkering with copper plating white metal with mixed success.

12 hours ago, Camperdown said:

Superb.  Maybe next time it might be easier to turn the firebox in brass and copper plate it after?

Thanks. I think that’s a very good idea. I’ve never done any copper plating so it would be an interesting experiment (and I’m all for those)!

1 hour ago, ianmaccormac said:

Glad you could use the wheel prints as casting masters. It all looks brilliant, as ever. Looking forward to eventually seeing some of this sometime in the future. Cheers, Ian

Thanks so much for the prints Ian, it’s the sort of thing that makes or breaks this kind of model. I also have the passenger versions you printed waiting for tyres to be fitted. I’ll try Richard’s suggestion of a split chassis for that one and we’ll see how it goes.

Cheers!

1 hour ago, Dave Hunt said:

I have been meaning to make an 1848 Jenny Lind for decades now but have only got as far as machining the boiler fittings. Maybe watching this thread will spur me into action?

The Jenny is definitely a great choice. Best wishes with that project and please share progress, I'd love to see how you get on.

2 hours ago, Richard Jones said:

Just a thought - having got conducting wheels, did you consider going down the split frame route?

 

Such a good question. I did consider split frames then chickened out as I was concerned about the structural integrity of the loco considering there's not a lot tying one side to the other, and the firebox and smokebox were going to be castings to provide tractive weight. On the other hand I think there are ways around this and I'm still considering the split frame option for the two 2-2-0 passenger versions I have yet to build. It's a case of 'watch this space'.

Thanks kitpw, even 1845 is a bit modern for this one, it’s an 1838 model. 
I do seem to make life difficult for myself…!

41 minutes ago, Allegheny1600 said:

I’m blown away - this is stunning work.

 I love it!

That’s kind of you, thank you.

1 hour ago, 45587 said:

Fantastic modelling. Perhaps you might like to give us a step by step guide to how it's done? Although I suspect infinite patience has a lot to do with it. Wonderful.

 

George 

Thanks George,

Your idea of a step-by-step guide is a good one, if only to remind myself how I do it...! Sometimes these projects take so long I forget where I'm up to. Lots of job lists is a good tip, at least you can tick them off and it feels like you're making progress even if visually it appears you've done sod all!

1 hour ago, 45587 said:

I notice your fireman's nipped off down the pub. I'm sure we all agree that having crew on these wide-open cab locos is a must, but even allowing for a fall plate between loco and tender there doesn't seem to have been much room on the footplate for them. Superb modelling.

 

George

Thanks George, good point about the fall plate and the fireman. Since the photo was taken a fall plate has been added and he has returned to duty, seemingly none the worse for wear. I can't say the same for his mate, ex-petty officer Solly...!

What a great job! That’s looking fantastic, really looking forward to seeing it painted too.

What an interesting build, and you're making a great job of it. I think it'll turn out to be a lovely loco.

Fabulous work as always! Informative and interesting with a lovely model to show for it too!

I'm curious to know what they mean by 'One Kingdom' or is that a place in Bristol?

12 minutes ago, 45587 said:

Well, that's astonishing. What is he made of?

 

George

Thank you. He’s cobbled together out of bits of figures. The tails of his coat are brass foil which disguises the joints between each leg and the body quite well

29 minutes ago, burgundy said:

So which iteration of the "useless Hackworth engines" can we  look forward to Chris?

Best wishes 

Eric 

 

Well, I've had to do a bit of homework on this one. Burtt, Bradley and Ahrons all discuss Gray's engine, and Burtt shows an example (Fig.11) of what he calls No.49 of the LB&SCR. Ahrons also provides a drawing but this time of one of Gray's engines for the Hull & Selby where he was Locomotive Superintendent before coming to Brighton. These two drawings match.

However, David Joy made a drawing of Gray's 'Express engine for the LB&SCR' and that's the one also illustrated in The Engineer (pictured above). I now have a good copy of this drawing (can't share here for copyright reasons) but it confirms without doubt that it is one of Gray's LB&SCR engines built by Hackworth's 1846-48. Many thanks to Tom Nicholls for buying me a copy of the drawing!

Therefore, Burtt got it wrong. He clearly made no reference to David Joy's archives but chose to illustrate Gray's Brighton locos with a drawing of one of Gray's Hull & Selby engines (lazy?). Bradley didn't bother to provide an illustration and to be fair to Ahrons, he shows Gray's H&SR engine not his LB&SCR one.

So, to answer your question, the loco will look like that one from The Engineer, not the one in Burtt's book as I think that's a red herring!

Fantastic to see that Burgundy, thanks for sharing! 

Great photo! The Great Bear is a magnificent beast but I know which of those two I prefer...!

On 24/01/2022 at 12:45, MikeOxon said:

The parts that struck me were the cupboard doors along the side - presumably for under-seat luggage stowage?

Correct. Sometimes they had vents and doubled up as dog boxes but yes, these ones were for luggage in the absence of a roof to put it on.

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for the detailed build description, really interesting. Looking forward to seeing it in place too.

Maybe RMWeb should run a survey of the most tedious jobs in the world of Railway Modelling! 

19 minutes ago, ChrisN said:

Wow! Just brilliant.

 

You said a motor bogie in the tender but there are no pictures, is that another post?  Only being selfish as I have the option, eventually, of trying to motorise a 2-4-0 or putting a Tenshodo Spud or similar in the tender.  I understand the Spuds are no longer produced and have not looked for one for a while, but something more common would be better.

 

Thank you.

Thanks. Yes, I haven’t posted the tender details as yet but will do so when it’s a bit more sorted.

I hope the motor unit will be available as a kit. Need a few more weeks to work on it yet though.

6 minutes ago, 45587 said:

For anyone looking for early carriages in H0 I can report that Chris's London and Brighton 3 compartment second/open third is (within a millimetre or so) the same size as the Bachmann 'Prussia' carriage. Presumably these new offerings are much the same size?  (thinks: must resist...)

 

George

Hi George, yes they're very similar in size.

2 hours ago, Ian Simpson said:

 

Hi Ian, Thanks. I think they might be ok in 3.5mm, I'll have to measure one and give you some external dimensions... and then get round to writing some instructions!

52 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

Yawn, I had hoped for something  a little more unusual.

In the first photo the octagonal dome is whitemetal, in the third it seems to be brass. Did you change your mind?

 

Thanks Mikkel, that made me chuckle. Well spotted re the dome. The white metal one is actually a casting taken from the brass one which I made first. I tend to put any masters I make into a mould so I’m ready when all those people contact me desperate for an 1838 Rennie pattern dome. I know once word gets out it’ll be like Black Friday at Primark…!

They look superb, well done!