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Good to see you back! I would personally go for waiting for the Peco stuff or going EM. Converting stock would be a pain but I suppose you have time. Given that Holborn Viaduct is largely above ground I'm not sure how much the gauge will be too apparent. I suppose it depends what you want to do in the next 30 years! If you choose to wait for Peco you could of course begin with some buildings .... Whatever you choose, all the best. Terry

Thanks for that. I'll look forward to seeing progress as it happens. Terry

Perhaps the only drawback might be the amount of buildings that would need to be constructed, unless of course that is a particular interest or if it was a group project. Out of interest, is Holborn Viaduct on the back burner? Terry

I think it was Frost. Terry

It was organised by Jim Snowdon initially through the Gauge O Guild. I'm not sure if he still has any in stock or what the position is. He does post on RMWEB. Terry

Great modelling. Really enjoyed it. However, it's only right at the end we see any evidence of a railway. Is this just an urban diorama rather than a model railway? ? Not a criticism although it may seem like it! All the best Terry

I may be out of my depth here. Pryor's Southern Signals has a list of headcodes at the back. It suggests that Bournemouth and Dorchester for goods would be one. Terry

Good luck! Terry

Of course I should have added that there were other LSWR services from Richmond via the West London line. And of course the Disused Stations site has an Edwardian Adams Radial at Ludgate Hill but impossible to say if in push-pull mode! Terry

These would have been services via the Merton loop line, which ceased in 1929. The Middleton Press book Lines around Wimbledon has photos of such trains with an Adams Radial (1926), an M7 0-4-4 (1927) and an H 0-4-4 (1929) all in push-pull mode. Far more relevant for the Edwardian period it also has a T1 0-4-4 in 1906 but not push-pull. Terry

The height of the overall roof could be balanced to an extent by the buildings at the back/on the backscene getting progressively taller towards the fiddle yard and then also the raised signal box. Terry

It's a refurbished Mac. All is well! Terry

I'll do it tomorrow. Just got a new computer so hopefully all will be ok. Terry

I’m happy to scan and email details from the relevant Illustrated Wagons book. Terry

Yes, take away the dire poverty, the infant mortality rates, lack of rights for the working classes and women, the pollution and the spectre of the Great War in a couple of years and it was paradise! What did the Romans ever do for us? I'm thoroughly enjoying this too. Terry

That's fair enough. I quite like Paternoster Square. I'll put forward Queen Victoria Street and then retire gracefully! Terry

Good question. The title of the thread says south London which I take to be south of the river. However, we all know that the back story of a layout can change as it evolves. Terry

This looks like being a good pastime. I had thought of Southwark St. A couple of others might be Nelson Square or Mitre St. Of course, I'm looking at just south of the river and as William has pointed out there's loads of possibilities once you get towards Holborn and Smithfield. I shall look forward to more suggestions - this one could run and run! Terry

OK. While we are waiting for a signalling expert to advise on the ringed signals and William to get through his work schedules how about another photo? This time it's Victoria in 1910. Looks like there will be a need for several horse drawn (hansom?) cabs and just, maybe, a B type bus. Al the best, Terry

Nearholmer - I'm sure you are much more well-informed about signalling that I am. I've no doubt that the function of the ringed signals is much as you have suggested. I've had a quick look in Pryor and he refers to a SECR ring-armed signal as a shunting signal. Doesn't mean you are wrong though! All the best, Terry

William, I'm pretty sure that they are shunting signals. Terry

I'm also looking forward to seeing how this develops. I know that William will be aware of these photos, but I thought I'd post them to give more ideas of what he's aiming for. As there are going to be occupation arched along the front of the station this is an old photo of Spa Road station that has appeared in various books and is on the Disused Stations website. Of course, these still exist on the approaches to London Bridge station. The second photo is of Charing Cross in 1919. A great array of signals and wooden platforms. Cheers, Terry

Nearholmer is right, the Klapper dust cover is inspirational! Terry

Ok William, I'm off out to the shops and I'll do the scanning after I get back. Terry

Hi again William. I've been looking through my collection of Railways South East magazines. The first issue from winter 1987/88 has an article by David Jenkinson on The Pattern of London's Railways at the End of the Edwardian Era. The summer 1990 issue has one by Alan A Jackson on Holborn Viaduct 1874-1990. If you haven't come across these I'm happy to scan them and send to you. Cheers, Terry