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True. Also how many cases of potential duplication never made it to the public domain. Company A announces a product and Company B quietly drops their plans for the same thing without it becoming public knowledge. I am sure it happens a lot.

The only Accurascale model that is only available from Accurascale is one of the versions of the 37 as far as I know so it is not true to say that many of their models are only available directly. They are all available from their retailers. However it is true to say they have not officially announced a HAA yet. We dont know exactly at what stage either of the 2 potential models are at. I believe Cavalex were aiming for Q3 2021 but did mention tooling. If something was in tooling now I would expect it sooner than that given its a wagon and not something more complex so that does not seem to add up. And yes. I think Hornby will respond but their high spec model is almost certainly inferior to the potential new entries so they are going to have to cut the price.

Already posted here:

Could it be the N gauge model be the PCA? If so it is nothing new.

I enlarged it and it is definitely a HAA. That does look like an N gauge wagon alright.

Fran's comment at the end is very interesting. If that is a HAA on the shelf then it has gone beyond the CAD stage.

Just came across this new Accurascale video Must admit I was spending a lot of time looking over Fran's shoulder trying to see what is on the shelves. That really looks like a HAA?

Not much wrong with the Hornby 60. Agreed that the electrics could be better but you can say that about all Hornby diesels. However I cannot see anyone doing another 60. It would be madness. There is far more low hanging fruit. The 56 is not bad but not as good as the 60. Classes 20, 31 and 50 amongst others have more room for improvement.

This probably needs a separate topic. The differences in the ends from the HAAs can clearly be seen in the renders. Another great wagon.

It was not working for me earlier. Will check again now.

The announcement of coils as a separate accessory is great news. I have some BAAs and BBAs that need loads.

The picture on the Kernow website is showing spoked wheels as Kernow have gone to the trouble of photographing the actual wagons released: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/56248/R6829-Hornby-PGA-Hopper-Wagons-Tarmac---Three-Wagon-Pack Other retailers have the pre production photos from Hornby with the correct wheels. Is it any wonder Hornby have such a poor reputation for many of their post steam era models. Attention to detail/QA always seems to be an issue unfortunately.

Another quick question. Are the Trains4U and the KMS packs the same as each other or are their unique running numbers at each retailer?

If I get the space this is actually high on my list of places to model and in the time period shown in the video. There was a great selection of trains at this time and now with PTAs, BBAs, PFAs etc. all becoming available to a high standard it is getting more tempting. Hopefully in future Accurascale will do some appropriate 37s too.

Well it was built by a US company to a US design

I think the high spec Hornby model was a bit of a disappointment. Additionally there are lots of variants and the HAA is generally not a wagon that ran in ones and twos. I always that someone else would have a go. That said the PXA would be great too

Looking forward to these. I always thought the later Hornby model could be improved on.

Very true and even more so as the Mark 2Fs are not a new tooling, just a new livery.

I am not sure what to do now. I have some of the brown ones and was going to use them as the basis for some bauxite ones to mix in with my black ones. Obviously the modern flashes will have to go.

I got my Rails BBA packs earlier this week to supplement my Cavalex order. I think I have enough BBAs Looking forward to the TEAs and PFBs from Trians4U.

I dont understand how you can mention DJM and any other manufacturer without the words "is the total opposite of" in between.

Dave Jones won a prime minister's medal for his prowess in the French language, allegedly.

You might want to check some retailers. There could be a few left. That is the problem with the crowd sourced projects. There are generally very few extra to go around as by definition that are made to order. Obviously the plus side is that those that ordered get the wagons at a reduced price. That said I am sure there will be a further run. Luckily I got mine and they are excellent.

I remember that. I think there was also one to be called Boy George. The locos were to have appropriate liveries for the name including a pink My Little Pony. The funny thing was that the national press picked up on it a few weeks later without realising it was a spoof. There was an article berating BR a few weeks later. Possibly in Mirror but it could have been the Mail or the Sun.

Just ordered mine as I remembered the deadline for early for the early bird price and the draw for the trip is coming up at the end of the month. My second RevolutioN order as I have some IWAs on order too