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Let's hope so, it should liven up the second half of the season. https://www.gpblog.com/en/amp/124213/mercedes-has-done-it-we-ve-finally-got-rid-of-it.html

Yes that's all they do, I had to do it with the Golf when the PIP review overran due to Covid, I just booked it in and took it along and they sorted it with Motability on the day. No hassles at all and a pleasant walk down the canal whilst they did it!

Thinking about this logically it's pretty obvious what to do when working from drawings. If the drawing is in feet and inches it'll be easier to convert using Hal Joyce's original scale of 1/10 inch to the foot rather than faffing round trying to use mm. Time to forget the peculiarly British obsession of mm to the foot!! Obviously if your drawing is metric then just divide by 120. Simples.

You can change the title easily Keith, just open the first post and go onto edit and it allows you as the thread author to change it!

Peco have already said it's 2.54mm in their launch, its just our great leader who put 2.5mm in the section header and welcome thread title just to confuse everyone and won't change it! ;)

Ah! Having raced using them and rebuilt two of them (having never, ever, even taken the top off any engine before or since!) I suppose I've a bit of a soft spot for them!

Why?

Am I right in thinking that the track is Tillig TT? I'm judging by the depth of the rail which is the only give-away, code 83? If so I think Peco's decision to use the code "55" rail is a very good move. It would be interesting to see them alongside each other.

I think you'll find that it's the anti TT 1:120 people that are doing that (whether you put yourself in that category is up to you), those of us with open minds and a genuine interest in it have been saying all along let's wait and see. Hence I don't see any point in speculating and trying to talk something down, which seems to be a trend by some people - sadly. Time will tell. I'd suggest they are a very different kettle of fish, 00 is, historically, regarded as the British equivalent of H0, so much so that many accessories, and even stock, has been and is marketed as H0/00. So asking someone to accept a British outline model that runs on the same track as their 00 models but is a tad smaller was always doomed to failure, there was simply no need to do it, 00 was far too well established by then. This is not the same scenario, it uses a different scale and gauge to any existing British scale/gauge combo, current or past, for the UK it is effectively a new scale just like Z and T. I would say, though, that had Triang launched their range as H0 scale back in the 50s, 00 may not even exist these days... Rather similar to Triang using 3mm/ft back then as well.

Why? Is it against some unwritten rule, perhaps?

Something that some recent contributors to the thread seem unaware of. I've been following SG TT from the old Eastern Bloc for several decades, and since the fall of the wall it's taken off in a big way, the old BTTB stuff was acceptable but rather dated but the stuff that is produced now is superb quality and there's a lot of it, someone did a list of current manufacturers earlier in one of the threads and it was quite extensive. A fact that Peco will have known about as Mr B is a regular visitor to those parts and the trade shows, so they have decided now is the time for them to enter the market for scale TT track and that's what they've done. At the moment the British side is more of an add-on, but if successful will also add sales.

Peco use code 75 for their H0m track. I know that Bemo H0e track uses code 83 and is just about compatible with Peco H0e (code 80), but I'm not sure what Bemo use for their H0m track and I haven't any to check. I'd be very surprised if it was code 100 that would look far too heavy, the chances are it'll be code 83 like the H0e. But don't quote me on that!

I'm surprised by that, it has been discussed several times! Peco's initial market for the track is not the UK but the much larger central/east European TT market. The number of modellers in 14.2mm I doubt would make such an investment work, in addition those who do model in TT3 using 12mm track would be left out! Best of both worlds for Peco, sales in an established scale and try to create a new market over here. Currently I wouldn't expect a retailer to recommend it as its a fledgling scale. However if it does expand, none of us have any idea what will happen in the future, then that retailer might well suggest it. Rome wasn't built in a day!

That one has no issues coming down it either! ;)

I am going on what people say in disabled discussion groups on FB that I'm a member of, mainly Motobility ones. Many if them see it as a godsend and would not want a car without it. Bearing in mind that they also tend to use electric wheelchairs or scooters that need a big boot with space for that and a hoist and you see why they need a large car. SUVs are also often the choice for these people because they are easier to get in and out of, though that doesn't apply to us. Roofboxes can't take the weight of the electric wheelchairs or scooters either. Horses for courses, but best not to knock things simply because you don't see a need for them, someone else might see them as a necessity.

Spider cat! She goes up and down the ladder no problem!

I can see you don't have a disability that makes one of them essential and need a car large enough to carry things like wheelchairs and scooters plus normal luggage which then makes them bigger and heavier! Rather than not having all the gizmos I'd rather they give you the choice of which ones you wanted, but I accept that would add to the manufacturing costs as each car would be individual.

Yes the electric tailgate is another which is a need to have rather than just a nice to have. It would be better if they underspecced and over delivered. I'm just glad I'm not buying at the moment.

Based on a Motobility FB page I'm on the answer to that is that they are supplying the model without many of the extras that they were ordered with. Many people have requested a certain model which includes extras for their disability (I'm not talking specialised stuff, but things like heated seats which may seem trivial to us but not for them) and are getting them delivered without them. A few have had to reject them.

Other than the engines (and even then many were shared across the range - look at the A series) most of the stuff like indicator stalks, etc., were shared by the models introduced from the mid to late 70s, the problem as both of us have said, was that there was no rationalisation.

I'd agreed with you up until then, but I'm not so sure about that. The way VAG do it is separate car companies, two of which are based in different countries which isn't something BMC or BL could have done. The problem BMC and later BL was too many factories doing the same thing and successive governments that wouldn't let them streamline. Though even that is a gross over-simplification of the situation. Ever since the end of WW2 you had VW and Audi and, of the German owned major manufacturers they were the main ones. Look at the mess that BL became in '68, there should have been just one premium manufacturer, instead they had Rover, Triumph and Jaguar, middle of the road Austin and Morris (and their add-ons Wolsey and Riley), and again in that segment, Triumph. It was a complete shambles only no-one was brave enough to say enough's enough, time to rationalise. Leyland Cars in 1975 employed 128,000 people in 36(!!) locations!

Lets see... Dogs on leads - Check Owners holding leads - Check Maximum carnage - Check Let's go!

Catalan...? ;)

We bought a 2001 Fabia Estate 1.9TDi new (the only car we've ever bought new!), and that was full of VAG parts. At that time Audi were the posh versions, VW the middle ones, Skoda the cheaper VWs (the Fabia was slightly cheaper and better equipped than the Polo estate which was around back then) and Seat the pretty and sporty ones. I don't think much has changed since then! Skoda and Seat always seemed to get the latest engines and gearboxes a year or two after VW/Audi models. The 1.0l turbo in our Octavia is pure VW, though interestingly the current Octavia actually came out before its Golf Mk8 clone, both being large spacious cars, unlike, for some reason, the Leon estate. (We have a simple test to see how big a car is, J's wheelchair is folded down (but still with it's footrests on and the handles left up) and placed in the boot, that gives a good idea of boot (and thus car) size. The Mk7 Golf and older Octavia could take it with space to spare, the Leon struggled.)

They must have run it again in the 60s as I can remember it too and I was only born in '57!