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Apart from a narrow gauge design for Singapore, Atkinson Walker only built a few prototypes, including several narrow and standard gauge one-offs. There used to be a comprehensive article on the Web, but it seems to have disappeared recently. Photos are very rare. This page has photos of two of the standard gauge variants http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Atkinson-Walker_Waggons The book on the Clogher Valley Railway by Patterson has some information on the loco built for that railway, including a cross section of a loco from an Atkinson Walker brochure. This page gives 2 photos of your loco, including the one in your post http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/49/PP_49.htm

Haverfordwest?

Ashburys eventually became part of Metro Cammell, in which case the Birmingham Central Library may hold drawings.

Going back to the Crewe type, I think there was a lot of copycat going on. Some Stothert & Slaughter locos are similar too. I found a reference to Canada Works locos in Finland here on RMweb http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69632-british-outline-locos-overseas/page-3&do=findComment&comment=993713

You are a mine of information, Eddie A similar drawing to my Italian one appears at the bottom of this page http://members.kos.net/sdgagnon/roch.html. I am merely interested in the odd and the obscure. I probably found my version of the drawing when I was looking for something completely different, as is almost invariably the case. It would be interesting to know what the 'locomotive plan' book the site author refers to actually was.

Sorry, but I didn't make a note of the source - as for most of my 'informal' collection of images, it could have come from just about anywhere on the Web.

A couple of old locos purporting to be Canada works - the first for Denmark and the second for Italy There does seem to be a certain unique style to these locos - and the Forth & Clyde and Canadian GWR one - with the outside frame around the cylinders etc.

Well in my view that makes it all the more important that information is recorded - the 99% can usually get ready access to the information they need via the Internet, books or specialist societies. If obscure information on obscure subjects is not published somewhere it may quickly be lost forever.

Yes, I am tempted to agree after doing a bit more digging. The 0-6-0 I was thinking of was definitely built in Canada, it seems. This one (a long way down the page) claims to be Canada Works though http://members.kos.net/sdgagnon/te3.html

The Canadian Grand Trunk Railway began with 56 locomotives built at Birkenhead, England from 1854 to 1858. It was engineered by Brassey. There are several photos of what I suspect are from Canada Works on this page, including 4-4-0s and 0-6-0s. Some of the 4-4-0s may originally have been 2-4-0s. These railways bought locos from North American manufacturers after the initial orders. The Canadian Great Western Railway also had some. Researching the Canadian lines might be fruitful as old records and photos are perhaps more likely to have survived.

You could try the book for starters https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0951096524/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=

That's better!

Your font is so small I can't even read it!

Looking good! Just wondering if you have any accurate information on the interior of this railcar. I am genuinely puzzled, for example as to where exactly the engine was located.

Only just noticed this thread, so apologies for commenting late. Seems to me that the 'challenge' of a narrow gauge layout is just about the same level as the broad gauge one. My suggestion is that you would be best to stick with the original concept, but do a few little things to build up your confidence first. Split the problem down into component parts and concentrate on one or two at a time. This will make the challenge far less daunting. Track building would be a good place to start - have a go at soldering a short length of flat-bottomed track - and convert a wagon to run along it, for example. Axle rod is available from several suppliers including Ultrascale and (in tube form) Eileen's Emporium. Just cut it to length. I think Alan Gibson will supply wheels with 21mm gauge axles if you ask. If you are likely to take some time researching the stock for your model, why not try something a little more modern to start with. A small early railcar, for example. The scenery etc. wouldn't change a lot over the years, so you could actually run the layout in more than one period without any great problem. With a railcar, you could use something like a High Level motor bogie, which would be easy to assemble and very reliable. You could quickly get something running that way. It is all too easy to spend a lot of time procrastinating or pretending that something else will be better to build in the short term. Stick with your original idea, which is very good - and it will all come together sooner or later. There may be a steep learning curve to start with, but we all go through that. There are loads of people on here who can help and advise as you go along.

I suspect the design was very much derived from Kitson steam tram designs. The "side tanks" actually covered the valve gear etc, as in this diagram Obviously, this tram loco had controls at both ends, so is slightly different, but it may explain the covers and the odd angle of the cylinders in the LOR loco..

Found this recently as well... Built by Bridges Adams for a line in Italy - not a Crampton, but a close relative to 'Ariel's Girdle'. Some of the detail may be useful. It looks like it is an artist's work, rather than an engineering drawing. Nevertheless, it looks fairly convincing, as if the artist had access to a good photo or drawings.

Any photos?

Hoping this topic has not died. I found a photo of a German imitation a few days ago

Thanks for that description. I will find it very useful. Good luck with your conversion to a wider gauge, which I would also like to try at some stage. Do you know what diameter the axles are?

The 'new' Midland station opened on January 17, 1904. The old gal had popped her clogs by then - January 22, 1901 to be precise. Edwardian!

I'd be interested to see what happened to the baby if they had to brake sharply I think I can guess

Horses, stone block sleepers, fishbelly rails and inclined planes spring to mind when I think of this period of railway history This is one way to solve the horse problem.............. ...........but only on the downhill run.

Using 16.5mm track for 5ft gauge in HO is quite a good compromise. Wheels in HO tend to be over wide compared to scale, so the outside of the wheel faces won't be far wrong for you.

You don't have to model each tree in detail - just the ones in the foreground. For the rest, the only bit you will see clearly is the canopy. Everything underneath will be dark and almost invisible.