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On 13/09/2021 at 21:31, Crun said:
Week on The Network 12/09/2021. Network Rail news film.
It starts with coverage of last weekend's work on the dive-under:
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A total of £350,000 will be given by Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority (CPCA) to move forward plans for a revamped Station Quarter - land surrounding Peterborough Railway Station
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Great Northern train tests successfully for first stage of East Coast Digital Programme (networkrailmediacentre.co.uk)
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58 minutes ago, Richard E said:
Now that is a shame as the bushes there were very popular with the local wild birds.
A popular place for flocks of House Sparrows.
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3 hours ago, Richard E said:
When I asked NR about passenger use at the last visit to the dive under they said that there is no plan for passenger services to use it on booked journeys, it might be used by diverted services however. They also have no knowledge of any scheduled passenger specials before it opens to freight traffic in December.
Another point, not often considered by armchair 'route experts' is that passenger use would require route knowledge by the TOC drivers and that is costly. Diverted services can, of course, use a freight driver to pilot the train through if required.
A response by another person on the same thread:
"There's no real advantage to a planned passenger service using it - as it is the Spalding Dogbox keeps itself nice and reasonably contained on the Up Slow into Platform 1 and 2.
Sending it via the Dive Under gets it tangled up on the Stamford lines with everything else." -
This was posted on another forum:
"I'm looking forward to the day that I can get a train in both directions booked to use the dive under even if it's just a stopping service like Peterborough to Lincoln.
Thanks for the various videos though"I replied:
"I thought it was strictly goods trains only that were to use the dive under. There may be a special passenger excursion some time after it is open for use some time around December this year."
He responded with:
"There's no reason why the Lincoln to Peterborough services can't use the diver under and use Platforms 4 to 7 at Peterborough together with the existing bi directional Up Slow between Werrington Junction and Platforms 1 and 2 at Peterborough.
Indeed there's two services that could use the dive under on a weekday; 18:35 Lincoln to Peterborough which at the moment is booked to use Platform 2B which upon arrival at Peterborough forms the 20:12 Peterborough to Nottingham via Stamford and Leicester which if it was diverted to use the diver under instead and be booked to use Platform 7 instead, this would mean no conflict with the 18:45 Leeds to Kings Cross or the 19:27 Kings Cross to Sunderland as they only need to be a minute late and it impacts onto a late departure for the 20:12 Peterborough to Nottingham.
Especially as there is nothing booked to use Platform 7 so it could easily be fitted there without any additional work being done, also there's no reason why diverted passenger trains can't use it either eg LNER, Lumos, Grand Central, Hull Trains etc..."Is he right or wrong?
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Week on The Network 12/09/2021. Network Rail news film.
It starts with coverage of last weekend's work on the dive-under:
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6 hours ago, St. Simon said:
Hi,
I’ve just seen that the final P-Way has been laid and signalling commissioned for the dive under this weekend.
Simon
P-Way?
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Werrington Junction Grade Separation Fluid Simulation:
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3 hours ago, woodenhead said:
What will you do when the Werrington work is complete?
Probably watch the dive under in use during my usual cycle rides until I grow tired of the same photographs... I always stop on the various bridges whether I can see the dive under or not.
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8 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said:
Dedicated thread over here:
Thanks for that. I don't look at any other threads.
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FirstGroup to launch budget London to Edinburgh rail service next month | Rail transport | The Guardian
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Works to allow trains to use Peterborough ‘dive under’ completed | Peterborough Telegraph (peterboroughtoday.co.uk)
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20 hours ago, Richard E said:
Nice time machine there - 28th June didn't look like that nor was it a Saturday!
DOH! Must have been hoping for warmer weather...
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9 hours ago, Crun said:
Off topic but ECML related:
Modern Railways has reported that one of the factors behind the delay to the ECML May 2022 TT change is power supply issues at Grantham North FS & Retford FS, with WPD.
"Power problems delay £1.2bn East Coast upgrade | New Civil Engineer" https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/power-problems-could-delay-1-2bn-east-coast-upgrade-24-08-2021/
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Off topic but ECML related:
Modern Railways has reported that one of the factors behind the delay to the ECML May 2022 TT change is power supply issues at Grantham North FS & Retford FS, with WPD.
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East Coast Mainline Blockade for Werrington Junction diveunder
in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)
Posted · Edited by Crun
Views from and around the Lincoln Road bridge. Not much more to do on the surface. Am I mistaken?