Adams442T

There is a famous illustration, by Orlando Norrie, showing the Indian Army troops engaged in the Egyptian Campaign, including the 13th Bengal Lancers, and another on active service by R. Caton Woodville showing them wearing exactly the combination of dark blue tunic and Khaki jodhpurs that is seen in the label. The illustration by Mad Carew Too is by Richard Simkin and shows a mounted 13th Lancer Sowar, and a dismounted Officer. There is a further illustration by Simkin, from the 'Boys Own Paper', which is a fold out sheet some 2 feet by 9 inches, which I'm lucky enough to own, which shows a similar 13th Lancer Sowar in the background. They can always be identified by the pennant which shows red over blue unlike most other regiments which have the more usual red over white. So l think we can say that the figures shown are from the Egyptian campaign without doubt, especially as the 13th Bengal Lancers have the battle honour, Egypt 1882. So I would suggest that the label cannot be earlier than 1882. The famous (or infamous) 'Camp' coffee label is probably intending to show a sowar from the 4th 'Prince of Wales's' Madras Light Cavalry. The other 3 Madras cavalry units did though wear the same uniform, French grey, buff facings and silver lace, though the illustrator has taken some liberties with the turban, kurta, and waist sash, depicting an ornate sash that would have been worn by a Halvidar (Officer) who l suspect would not have been happy to be serving coffee even to a Gordon's Officer!

It does occur to me though that this has strayed somewhat from 'musings on Rapido' so perhaps we ought to cease this before we get 'chopped'!

Possibly never. The 'complainants' would immediately lose their jobs and probably be assaulted into the bargain. Besides which the immigrants fear the Police (I know l was a copper for 20 years) and it's very hard to persuade them to talk even when you might think it would be in their own best interests to do so. What we will do for veg when the immigrants return to Eastern Europe I don't know. In Lincolnshire you see them freezing their ass off on tractor drawn conveyors so we can have fresh veg at the supermarkets. Saw some early this morning in a local field, it was 0-1 degrees according to my in car thermometer. Can you see the Brits working in those conditions? I don't think so!

I know Hackney (until it became 'gentrified') had a high gun crime problem, but surely this explains it...................

Even after the 1974 Act there was very little protection for servicemen and women. My late wife, a Squadron Leader (Intelligence) in the RAF, who contracted a fungal infection when working in an underground 'War Headquarters' in Maastricht in 1982, which killed her in the end, was unable to bring any action against the UK because of 'Crown Immunity'. Not only that but we were still being harassed by the MOD 'War Pensions Department' who required us to get her to a tribunal in Birmingham to 'prove she was unfit'. Electric wheelchair, 24 hour oxygen supplies and all, just before she died in 2006!

At least it doesn't say call, 0800................

The 1/43 rd Austin Ruby looks to be an outstanding model! Must get one for my putative 'O' plank!

Sorry, but l wasn't talking about the MSC model, only the 'Dodo', which as the former works employee said, 'the engines left the works in Leaf Green, complete with lining, unless the customer requested otherwise.' If you have photos of 'Dodo' post any overhaul, l would be interested to see a link.

Above the Engine Shed blog also says: The gentleman we spoke to at Warley sent a picture of Nelson, a later Peckett R4 design, in its original livery. This matched the works black and white image of that loco tonally, as well as by its lining, which then matched back to the various works photos of the W4s that we hold. The foundations were laid and from there we were able to speak to Frank Bosher – a former machinist at Pecketts – who confirmed that the engines left the works in Leaf Green, complete with lining, unless the customer requested otherwise. That is sufficient information for my purposes!

Possibly so, though I've not personally seen the darker shade on a 'works' finish loco. In any case, as undoubtedly locos received repaints locally, l can't see any problem in removing the lining with T-cut (other removal systems are available...) and repainting to whatever shade you want. My two have been de-lined and now that my Narrow Planet works and name plates have arrived they will hopefully be soon gracing 'Aldersbrook'. Though a new small industrial layout may have to arise, as long as SWMBO can be kept at bay........

One other great loss was the Woolram Wygate level crossing cabin. Well maintained right up to the end, with a delightful 'ships wheel' to open the gates, it was destroyed overnight with just a pile of rubble and broken timbers left by the morning. Now the freight traffic is diverted through Spalding we have the wonderful prospect of the whole of Spalding being severed from the emergency services as all 4 level crossing gates shut for several minutes every time the long containerised trains go through. Usually, but not just, at 8.55 am and 3.40 pm in time to foul up traffic in town and bring everything to gridlock!

Though US manufacturers often offer 'plain' locos without painting or decals, they are often no cheaper than fully liveried locos. Their sales are bolstered by the fact that many US lines ran a limited number of manufacturers locomotives, unlike the plethora of designs that existed in the UK. The logistics of offering 'plain' locos in the UK just don't add up. People in the past haven't even wanted to apply alternative transfers, and those manufacturers who offered such locos ended up with locos staying on the shelves. Not what's wanted in today's very competitive marketplace. As I've said before on this thread, Peckett's usual livery, unless an order was placed for a specific colour, was the livery that 'Dodo' was issued in. If you want a repaint, that has got to be a good place to start from surely, or possibly the new 'black' version.

Though l had great hopes for the OR model, the awful black block interfering with the daylight under the boiler made it a 'no go' for me. A shame as l was looking to support the new venture, and, as you can probably guess from my name, the Adams 442T was always my favourite. Subsequent models from OR have also proved a disappointment, both rolling stock and locos, though l hope the N7 might be an improvement. I know there are some brave souls who have butchered the block and remade the lower boiler, but my time is valuable to me, having precious little to spare for modelling anyway, and l got a Hornby LSWR for a shade under £20.00 more. Well worth it l thought.

Yes, well....................

I couldn't agree more! There is also the original No. 80, 'Thundersley' available at Bressingham to scan. I had a wonderful day, back in 2008 l think it was, when l arranged to visit, and was allowed to measure, photograph, and crawl all over it. I have a plethora of photos including one of myself in the cab, a wonderful day's outing, and a wonderful loco to boot. I had hoped that DJM might venture to do it, but with his backlog that seems unlikely now. It might become OR's first decent loco! Unless the N7 comes up to scratch.......

One for Captain Kernow perhaps........................

Narrow Planet does excellent Peckett builders plates and with a bit of research you can easily find an appropriate number and date for them, plus their name plates are excellent too! In fact they weren't always black (other than filthy with grime) as the 'Dodo' model is in pretty much the 'standard finish' in which they left the works........

Yes, well.............

I've got a very nice ultramarine from Precision, which l haven't to date used other than to test it on a scrap of Plasticard. I'm sure I've got a postcard of 1001 somewhere, and, as long as it doesn't have the faults that bedeviled the Adams & Dean Goods, l shall definitely get one (at least!) Fingers crossed that they get this one right!! It also gives me time to source coaches that could be 'cut and shut' to produce GER suburban stock.

My dear Bertiedog! You have excelled yourself in this wonderful rendition to the glorious Peckett's! I do hope (as JennyEmily has suggested to me) that Hornby delete another item from their 'production slots' and fill it with another run of Peckett's, using the same tampo printing but varying the numbers and works plates. This seems an excellent idea, especially for those who didn't manage to acquire the 'Holy Grail'...............

For heavens sake please don't even think of Oxford doing an industrial! Their dire efforts on the Adams Radial, wagons, etc., and now the Dean Goods, show just how far they need to go to even become an acceptable manufacturer. Cheapness isn't always a virtue, especially when it involves 'cheap and nasty'. The thought of them even attempting a decent 'industrial' makes me shudder. They need to prove that they can do something, anything, of quality, but please not this......

Just received a notification that my, 'Jane' and 'James' name plates and the 'works' plates are ready for processing by Narrow Planet. Excellent service considering the inundation of requests they must have had for Peckett works and name plates over the Christmas period!

Yes, short of Yodel, Hermes are the most appalling failures in home deliveries. The real problem is, of course, that the benighted drivers have schedules to meet, and have to take short cuts to enable them to meet their times. Often 1 minute per delivery 'slot'. It's a problem, especially when it's a 'rare' item not easily replaced, but if it's only the brake column you should be able to reglue it in the correct place. A 'faff' l know, but at least you have one of the best locos Hornby have ever (IMHO) made!

The 1P is a delightful issue. Especially as it will be available in the original MR guise. That saves me from 'back modifying' it to a pre-grouping guise! If only Bachmann or Hornby would issue pre-grouping coaches. Can't see why they don't, as liveries could cover several periods, even up to late BR days, and l, for one, would buy several rakes of suitable coaches. After all, apart from the modified ex-LSWR coaches, suitable only for the 30's onwards, and the 'Gate stock' soon to be available (?) there are very few pre-group items in prospect.

Might l suggest that people go back and read post # 2147 on page 86, where PMP actually spoke to the staff manning the Peco stand, including senior staff members, and received replies indicating that the new bullhead turnouts would be as shown, solid blades, and all! As Martin Wynne also said above, post #2170, the O gauge points, which in my experience work fine, also have solid blades. Oh, and it's 'loss leader', A loss leader is a pricing strategy where a product is sold at a price below its market cost to stimulate other sales of more profitable goods or services. It's not a 'Lost Leader' unless you're referring to Politicians!!