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4 hours ago, Captain Pugbash said:

for once instead of thinking of "hmm that would be a nice bash" yours truly actually makes a thing, an 0-6-0 version of the 14xx (featuring a triang jinty chassis) the jinty chassis and autotank body need some filing, in the meantime i dropped the jinty body onto the 14xx chassis and voila presto, a very dainty little jintystein! just need some paint and transfers for her now (might cut out a bit of cab roof to make it look more victorian)

Awesome and marvellous in its own right! Seeing as it still retains the BR lining, it would be perfect as an LNWR, Midland or freelance 0-4-2T along with four-wheel and six-wheel coaches to haul.

1 hour ago, cypherman said:

Hi LNWR,

Yes it did inspire me in one respect. It pushed this engine back into my mind. So decided to do it as my then current project was coming to a conclusion. i have been restoring and improving old engines for the past 10 years or so. many of them have been posted here over the past couples of years. Nothing newer than about 30 years old...... :). If you do a search for my posts you should find them. I have restored and repaired every thing from 1950's Triang, Lima, Hornby Dublo and upto 1908's Hornby. I am a great believer that too many engines are sent to the scrap heap because every one wants the latest version of an engine. When with a little bit of work and fun you can get almost as good an engine at a quarter of the cost plus putting a little bit of your own soul into it.

Here are a few of the ones I have done in the past.

Well, that's a surprise, I must say! To that, I strongly agree with you.

In fact, I happen to have a Tri-ang Princess Royal that's a static display-onl;y model right now and it's doubtful it'll ever run again no matter how much servicing it needs. Shall I explain all the details to you in PM?

Just an update: my 1980S Hornby Railways LNER Streamlined B17/5 4-6-0 is taking shape and more will be added to it along with buffers, handrails, apple green livery, lettering, numbering and naming.

Also, my 1960s Triang LNWR George the Fifth 4-4-0 is taking a bit longer than expected, so it will be ready by the end of the year hopefully.

On 15/09/2020 at 14:00, Il Grifone said:

The Tri-ang Hornby Coronation is a complete model, so really 'retro' rather than 'retro style'. IIRC it uses their 'Flying Scotsman' chassis with the result of being too short.

 

True, very true indeed. I've just seen the pics of the model and she looks so nice! What about a Triang-Hornby Duchess model?

Fantastic model, that! It seems that my Retro-style Models thread inspired you.

My S15 model will be numbered 499 after the preserved example and the proper chimney will be sourced to complete it.

18 hours ago, Il Grifone said:

The Tri-ang Hornby Coronation is a complete model, so really 'retro' rather than 'retro style'. IIRC it uses their 'Flying Scotsman' chassis with the result of being too short.

 

True, very true indeed.

Wait, why the A3 Chassis?

1 hour ago, Il Grifone said:

 

Mine is underway. A GBL Streamlined Coronation body on a Dublo Duchess chassis. I have hit problems though: the front bogie wheels foul the 'skirts' and I need to file lots more metal from the cylinders. The coaches are not a problem - I have lots. Trix Twin made one pre-war complete with headlamp and coaches with horizontal lining. It was rather short* to fit an H0 scale German DRG Br01 chassis. (They also put a 'Princess' and a 'Scotsman' on it.)

* The nearest would be the Tri-ang/Hornby model which is also horizontally challenged.

In that case, maybe a 1960s-style Triang-Hornby Streamlined Duchess Coronation won't be such a bad idea, after all. The body is plastic and it would use the same loco and tender chassis by said-company. Would that work?

On 12/09/2020 at 00:12, atom3624 said:

Thanks.

 

I had that original Triang B12 in the 70's.

 

Superb models in many ways.

 

Al.

Indeed!

If you're familiar with Hornby's tender-driven B17, I'm making a model of the Streamlined B17/5 using the Golden Arrow kit and the original 1980s Hornby Railways B17 Ringfield tender-drive chassis. Also, in keeping with the decade, I'm making it into the 1980s Hornby Railways style complete with authentic box to store the model in.

1 hour ago, cypherman said:

Hi LNWR,

Well you are getting there with your loco and coaches. Well done.

Thank you, Cypher! Indeed I am.

Also, here is the overhead shot of the S15 I promised.

Have a nice day, nunkies!

Here we have it - my 1980s Hornby Railways Streamlined B17/5 4-6-0!

The paint has not been added, yet. This is just a dry-run as the chassis needs some adjustment to fit as well as the body. The chassis runs well but because of the faulty screw at the back, it cannot run entirely well. The model still needs work and also it is to be numbered and named 2859 East Anglian after the original real-life locomotive. Plus, I picked up three Gresley coaches dating from the 1980s respectively.

Here we are with the LSWR coaches as promised (finally)!

And a bit more has been done on the LSWR S15 in 1970s Hornby Railways style (note the moulded handrails I have filled in with bits of wite as best as I can; I would have shown the overhead shot but the stupid 10MB allowance won't let me).

On 06/09/2020 at 18:38, atom3624 said:

Renumbered my new B17/6 and B12.

 

B17/6 from 61669 / Barnsley to 61663 / Everton.

B12    from  61533   to   61533.

 

Reasonably pleased.

 

Everton was a combination of Fox's - metal smokebox door, etched namplate; and Wolf dryprint for the cab.

The B12 was Wolf dryprint on the cab and waterslide on the smokebox door.

 

For the cab I tried removing with Brasso, then T-Cut, but had to resort to 'very careful scratching' with a scalpel - Hornby numbers are well printed!!

 

Good experience nevertheless.

 

I realise there are loads of renumbering threads, so thought I'd just post my efforts.

The 2 locomotives are brilliant - B17 is minus one of the insulating washers for the front bogie to permit full available weight onto the drivers.

(Thanks to Sam!!)

 

Al.

 

 

It's amazing how Hornby's models have come along from their original Triang-Hornby/ Hornby Railways counterparts. I have to admit just how impressive they are with the new models! By the way, good job on modelling after the preserved No. 8572 or BR 61572!

16 hours ago, Darius43 said:

It may be that the body is interfering with the wheels/motion/motor.  Try running it slowly and looking closely to see if anything is hitting the body as the wheels rotate.  You may need to carefully fettle the body to remove the source of the interference.

 

Also you might want to try painting with several coats of thinned paint as these will tend not to show the brush marks - I assume you are brush painting.  Priming the model surface before painting would also improve the paint finish.  Using an airbrush would be better but I appreciate that is quite an investment.

 

With respect to lining, painting fine and straight lines by hand is an exceptional skill that I will never have.  I would humbly suggest that you consider using lining decals as they would deliver a marked improvement.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Thanks for the tip, Darius. Lining decals proved for me to be a nightmare to apply on, sadly. The first time I tried it was on my LNWR custom-made locomotives, but they didn't work so I thought it best to improve my painting skills and try very hard despite the shaky-hand I would sometimes can't help but get. I am rather prone to it at times, but if anyone else suffers that way, I'm not alone.

On a lighter note, my Streamlined B17/5 is taking shape and runs nicely. I will share pics of it, soon. Progress on the model is going smoothly whereas the Triang-Hornby George the Fifth is still undergoing construction.

Everyone, I apologise for the delay in sharing pics of the LSWR coaches, but I will soon. Also, my LNWR George the Fifth kit and L1 Chassis arrived yesterday, but whilst building it, I ran into a problem - the instructions were missing. All I had to do was rely on photographs of the class as well as other models of it.

The L1 Chassis runs fine, but with the body on, it jerks about and bucks off the track like a bucking bronco on a combination of absinthe and mescaline. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I'm trying anything I could and I don't know exactly how to cure the problem, so could anyone please help me? Thank you.

3 hours ago, cypherman said:

Hi all,

LNWR I found the picture I mentioned of the black Sir Dinadan. So here it is. A lovely looking engine.

That model looks fantastic. I'd say you went with the Maunsell S15 while I went with Robert Urie's original design.

Also, I was about to share my Hornby Railways LSWR Coaches.

16 minutes ago, cypherman said:

Hi all,

LNWR it would be an easy project to do. All you need to get is the GBL streamlined Coronation from them to donate the body. The rest is just a matter of fitting it.

http://www.amercom-hobby.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=528

Well, good luck with that. Unfortunately, I do not own the GBL Streamlined Coronation or a Hornby-Dublo Duchess chassis or both. Besides, the latter is pretty expensive to find.

Also, my Hornby Railways LSWR Coaches are coming on nicely. I am looking forward to working on the Streamlined B17/5 4-6-0 in 1980s Hornby Railways style! I know because I obtained 3 Hornby Railways Gresley coaches to compliment it!

4 hours ago, David_Belcher said:

My layout uses a fair bit of stuff made in the early/mid 60s era it's set in, or thereabouts; Dublo, Trix, 00 gauge Farish, Triang... there's even an old Jaypee brass-bodied coach knocking about!

I don't know if you read the Hornby-Dublo book I acquired second hand, but I heard about an unproduced streamlined Duchess/Coronation model. A Pre-War pre-production mock-up was madeusing an A4 chassis, but this never happened because of WWII. In fact, you could take the Hornby-Dublo Duchess Chassis and fashion an LMS streamlined Duchess and pair it with LMS coaches by Hornby-Dublo. I challenge anyone here to attempt this retro-style model!

50 minutes ago, David_Belcher said:

If you're going for the retro angle, the short Hornby clerestory coaches (although ostensibly GW) can be bashed into arc roof LSW stock...RM ran some articles in the early 70s??

Perhaps. Also, I might think about LNWR clerestory coaches, too. In fact, I must think about the type of retro-vintage coaches the Tri-ang Hornby George the Fifth would haul.

Let's hope for the best with this model! I even renumbered it as No. 82045 based on the replica of the class.

13 hours ago, cypherman said:

Hi LNWR,

I must admit that I have seen a picture of the Sir Dinadan engine painted in plain BR black. In my opinion it was stunning in it's simplicity. It is on my to do list.

Well, good luck with that.

My S15 may have a different livery than the ones were painted. The proper livery was the Goods Green, but I thought it was almost too similar to the SECR Goods Green so I went with the same livery used on the LSWR T9 and M7. If Hornby did release the S15s, they would be described as mixed-traffic engines though they would have been used for relief passenger duties.

Anyway, my next model in the works is an LNER Streamlined B17/5 4-6-0 based on No. 2859 'East Anglian' made from a Golden Arrow Streamlined B17/5 kit complete with tender-driven Hornby Footballer Class chassis and proper Hornby handrails and safety valves from an old A4 body just for sheer authenticity. The nameplates would also be custom-made stickers they used to supply with Hornby B17s back in the day. What do you think of that?

The S15 will be taking shape as planned despite the mistake in the incorrect livery and the LNWR George the Fifth will also be on the workbench.

However, after some thought about a 1980s Hornby Railways-style model, I settled on - wait for it - a streamlined B17 4-6-0! Normally, I prefer loco-drive models, but as the kit requires the tender-drive Hornby B17 Footballer chassis, it's the only exception I'm making because I wanted to portray a 1980s style Hornby Railways model. And for added authenticity to give it a stylized train set appearance of the time, it would have two LNER composite coaches and one brake coach. Coaches will be of a different matter to appropriately suit the models better.

Here is a timeline table I have created for my models which will also serve as a checklist.

Mid-late 1960s - Triang-Hornby Era: LNWR George the Fifth Class 4-4-0 No. 2013 'Prince George' - made from a GEM LNWR 4-4-0 kit and Triang L1 Chassis

Late-1970s - Hornby Railways Era: LSWR S15 Class 4-6-0 No. 499 - made from a Hornby Railways N15 Class with bogie tender from the Hornby N15 Class

Early-mid 1980s - Hornby Railways Era: LNER Streamlined B17 Class 4-6-0 No. 2859 'East Anglian' - made from a Golden Arrow Streamlined B17/5 kit complete with tender-driven Hornby Footballer Class chassis

Early-late 1990s - Hornby Railways Era: SECR O1 Class 0-6-0 No. 65 - also made from a Golden Arrow Kit respectively and utilising a modified Hornby Jinty chassis as required

Early-late 2000s - Post-New Millennium Hornby Era: Rebuilt SR West Country Class 4-6-2 No. 34027 'Taw Valley' in 'Hogwarts Express' livery - a repaint and rename of said-model in BR maroon livery based upon the concept of the Hogwarts Express prior to production of the first Harry Potter film

Post 2000s - Post-New Millennium Hornby Era: NBR Class G/LNER Y9 0-4-0ST - adapted from the Hornby Caledonian Pug and made to resemble said-model but in Railroad format hence the chassis

What do you guys think? Six models to attempt for my collection to celebrate 100 Years of the Hornby brand.

On 04/09/2020 at 21:57, TangoOscarMike said:

I like what you've done. Have you considered adding steps / running-boards (I'm not too sure about the correct terminology)?

Good question. I have to look for those. In doing so, I must cross-examine the Hattons Genesis Coaches at the same time.

3 hours ago, hayfield said:

 

 

 

 

Unless you have ordered a second hand or extremely old (stock) kit, I assume you have ordered it from Lytchett Manor models. Whilst not having a GEM kit from them I bought a 2-4-2T loco kit from the Bedford company (previous owners) Firstly the etched chassis are excellent and I believe available separately. Secondly I found both the materials used and quality of casting a vast improvement from the earlier GEM kits. 

 

The running quality of the chassis will be down to the builder and parts (wheels, motor & gears) used

Actually, I bought it off E-Bay and it was in good working on condition as described. However, both the kit and the chassis have not arrived yet, not even today. That chassis was the Triang L1 Chassis.

18 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

That was the chassis recommended for it when it first came out as they were readily available.

 

When the Triang L1 (later converted to a 2P) was discontinued in the very early 1970s then GEM released their own whitemetal version. That was then replaced by the far superior etched chassis.

 

Worth considering the chassis you are using is going to be over fifty years old.

 

 

Jason

I suppose so. I just hope the chassis can run well on my layout. Plus, I hope it fits well onto the body, however, chances are some alterations would be required as a good loco-drive 00 Gauge 4-4-0 chassis can be hard to find. What is your batting average?

And here are the Midland and LNWR 6-Wheel Coaches that go nicely with my Hornby Four Wheelers.

I seem to have gotten the LNWR livery right, and as for the Midland one, there will be some work done it such as getting the livery right on it as well as lining it for detail. All the same, a nice job on them!