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This is one for my micro layout I am planning: a modified Bachmann Thomas the Tank Engine model into a freelance version of the SECR R1 Class 0-6-0T!

So, as you can see, I've marked out what needs adding, what needs removing, what needs replacing and what needs cutting out.

*In red: cut off side-tanks and large headlamp and cut out back box infill as to add a crew inside possibly depending on how I could get away with

*In purple: level the running-board front to make it flat and parallel to the rear

*In orange: fill in the extra cab window

*In yellow - replace the face along with eye mechanism removal with a standard Hornby or Bachmann smokebox door

*In green - make sandboxes and add whistle on top of cab roof and handrails from smokebox to tanks along the boiler which would fill in where the sidetanks once were

I know I could've just made the Bachmann Thomas more like his original basis, but I like to be creative and ambitious when it comes to models. I don't look at all my projects and say, "That's it, I'm satisfied." I just want to go onto the next thing. This is gonna be a big loco project I'll be doing at some point.

On 19/02/2021 at 19:32, papagolfjuliet said:

This week's evening project: 'Bramblewick,' an Edwardian light railway 0-6-0. Tri-ang 3F body with the cab filed down, Hornby Jinty chassis trimmed to fit, GBL C class tender body, Mainline Scot tender chassis, Narrow Planet nameplates, Precision NER brake van red oxide paint, HMRS LNER coach transfers. BCR stands not for Bishops Castle Railway but for an imagined line connected with another Shropshire castle, namely PG Wodehouse's Blandings. 'Bramblewick' is the name given to Robin Hood's Bay in the novels of Leo Walmsley. The coach is a butchered Hornby 4 wheeler mounted on a Lima HO BR brake van chassis to give a suitably low ride height, and is awaiting oil pots and final fitting of the roof.

A truly excellent locomotive, Sir! The BCR sounds like the S&DJR, the M&GNJR and the MSLR. I hope and expect it runs pretty well, too.

Also, point of interest; the 0-6-0 tender locomotives in the Pre-Grouping Era would be mainly used as the goods and freight locomotives of the day and possibly on relief passenger services. Not all of them carried names, but according to history or as far as I know, the only 0-6-0 tender locomotive class, the NBR C Class later LNER Clas J36 were given named after service in WWI and one such example was named 'Maude' who is still with us in preservation today and even starred in the 2000 film adaptation of The Railway Children.

Overall, great model!

After watching Budget Model Railways with their interesting micro layouts, one particular one struck me as the most inspirational:

This is the standard Hornby track plan you see on train set boxes and in catalogues but what I hope to do is stick the siding on the inside and a station building and platform inbetween a goods siding  along with a signal box on one side and a tunnel going around it.  So, we're talking about 18 to 20 inches wide and 28 inches long. I haven't quite gotten the track yet but once I get it sorted out, the length and width might change as I still have the intention of a portable layout.

The name of the layout, as mentioned in the title, is River Dyke which is a fictional South Eastern branch line. The rolling stock used would be the SECR D/E Class Hybrid 4-4-0 I made from a Bachmann Edward and possibly the addition of an 0-6-0 tank locomotive reminiscent of Ex-SER/SECR tank locomotives or 0-6-0 tender goods locomotive mainly similar to the SER O/O1 Class 0-6-0 with a hint of C Class 0-6-0 possibly made from a modified Bachmann James the Red Engine maybe. But we'll see how it goes! The passenger stock is the Hornby 4-Wheel Coaches and also some old style plank wagons and a brake van almost bearing a resemblence to this SER 6-Wheeled one:

What's a layout without buildings and figures? Well, I will purchase a driver and fireman for the 4-4-0 tender locomotive as well as some Edwardian people and station staff at the time. I was thinking of adding a couple of motor cars namely Daracqs but I will be on the lookout for them. For now, a horse-drawn wagon will have to do. Finally, there's the wiring, the controls and the baseboard. I will be working around that as well. I have plenty of track pins to spare and that's the lot set up!

While I work away at it, I'll be singing along to the old Music Hall songs from back in the good ol' days!

To be perfectly honest, I don't model in O Gauge stuff, really. I hope I'll stand a chance of the prize draw.

17 hours ago, TonyMay said:

How did you get the lining effect?

To answer your question, I already did.

23 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said:

The lining has been somewhat tidied up. An old trick I learned that was actually used on the railways was that they'd apply the colour of the lining on the sides before filling it in with the colour of the livery.

Also, I have done a bit more on the model - the buffer-shanks are now black on both the locomotive and the tender and handrails have been added on either side as seen here:

And while I was at it, I thought I'd might as well tidy up some parts of the locomotive.

Yeah, I totally enjoy the LNWR layouts! The LNWR is my all-time favourite Pre-Grouping company!

And talking of Pre-Grouping, I have plans for a micro-layout set in the Edwardian period and with an SECR-flavour to it.

I am planning on a micro layout inspired by Budget Model Railways and having chosen the early 1900s being the Edwardian period, I am looking to find at least one or two model cars in 00 scale from that period as they were a rarity at the time even in the countryside. It would most likely be something like these:

(I'd have to admit that Daracqs are the best by far! I'd take one over a Renault or Citreon anyday!)

So, if anyone knows where they can be obtained or if anyone has any they might be willing to spare, then please do kindly get in touch with me, thank you.

21 hours ago, Cunningham Loco & Machine Works said:

Here's a prospective pugbash; feel free to use the design.

This tank engine I like! It's got all the Midland flavourings to it!

Here I am back again with more on my D/E Class Hybrid 4-4-0 as I have come to love 4-4-0 locomotives! Back then, they were the main express passenger locomotives of the day until the introduction of 4-4-2 Atlantics, 4-6-0 Ten Wheelers and 4-6-2 Pacifics.

The lining has been somewhat tidied up. An old trick I learned that was actually used on the railways was that they'd apply the colour of the lining on the sides before filling it in with the colour of the livery.

Checker-plating has just been added inside the cab and the tender for some detailing. I have yet to add a loco crew inside (hopefully some figures to make into Edwardian-esque characters). Also, I might add a pair of handrails alongside the cab and tender with some styrene rods I picked up.

Overall, this locomotive has a nice Pre-Grouping feel to it and it will be used on a micro layout inspired by Budget Model Railways' micro layout on their YouTube channel. I have been thinkign about making one of those for sometime and I should plan it out.

18 hours ago, Cunningham Loco & Machine Works said:

Blimey, mate! Look at that beaut of a steam lokey-mokey that just flown in from England!

It reminds me of Sierra Railroad No. 3, the Movie Star Engine used mainly in Western films and most notably as the Hooterville Cannonball from Petticoat Junction! I challenge anybody to make it in model form!

Nothing much on my D/E Class Hybrid 4-4-0 except for a lick of paint:

Yes, I know the first coach is derailed but at least it the model looks the part. I hope I got the SECR livery just right. The wheels may need a bit more green on them, too.

On 16/01/2021 at 15:46, TangoOscarMike said:

I've made a couple of 3D printed coach bodies for the Hornby 4-wheeler chassis, neither of them 100% satisfactory. And when I started thinking about steampunk engines, I also tried to make a Victorian-retro-futuristic coach body. It was going to have exaggerated tumblehome (very curved, barrel-like sides), elliptical windows and ornate beading.

 

I didn't get very far with this, but I might try again.

 

Yes, I am sure you will. Maybe it could also have a Jules Verne/H.G. Wells flavour to it.

On 09/03/2020 at 21:44, RAWRlab said:

So I went for the masking tape approach: 

I used my left-over Flying Scotsman wheel to trace the shape of the wheel arches on to a piece of masking tape (luckily the masking tape was the perfect width for this!) and then took about ten minutes per arch to get the tape on the correct spot . Seemed much easier to have the lines on the very edge of the splasher instead of slightly inset, as this meant only aligning one piece of tape around the curve. I used the same approach of the wheel to replicate the arches on the tender - although this means that they don't really match the shape. Doesn't worry me though, because the white is much more noticeable than the outline of the tender anyway. At this stage with the lining, it's the effect that counts, not the accuracy! 

 

 

Much less spillage than I expected for my crude taping. Of course, I've shown you all the good side. On the other side, the lining is a little thicker than I'd like. I'll have to get the red paint onto it. But that will wait for the cab sides to be lined. 

Gosh, what a fantastic engine! I do hope it runs well!

Is railway modelling an art? I often wonder that myself. So, here's another photograph of my D/E Class Hybrid 4-4-0 along with the three maroon four wheel coaches that arrived.

The lining has yet to be added and the gold detailing will also be done as well as other SECR features. Fortunately, I own two Hornby and Bachmann SECR-liveried locomotives (with a third having been pre-ordered on the way soon). In the meantime, leave me your comments and thoughts while I keep updating once or twice on this project.

Another update on the locomotive:

This is the work I have been doing so far and I am including the standard Hornby Four Wheel Coaches already rendered in a simplistic version of SECR Crimson. The cab is taking shape and the step as been added on with a little help from Milliput and a strip of plasticard (gosh, that stuff doesn't grow on trees). The cab interior may be blank so perhaps a sticker of instruments might be of some use for this simplistic model. Once the final finishing items and livery have been applied,

Also, my short freelance bogie coach is taking a while to work so it may take some time until I can find the Queen Mary Brake Van chassis needed.

4 hours ago, John Besley said:

Here's one I built in around 1983... used a MDC HO scale Boxcab and cut up a Hornby class 25 body for the grilled and roof panel, fitted brass buffers from a Pannier tank and a driver from Weston, lettered up for Stanley N Evan's (who where a sand and gravel merchant near Stourbridge) 

 

This resurfaced again after all these years along with the original prints 

 

 

What an interesting diesel locomotive! Can you imagine it in Harry Needle colours?

3 minutes ago, RJS1977 said:

What an interesting thread!

 

I originally looked on to it to see what 6-wheel chassis was being used as I've recently withdrawn a 6-wheel parcels van from service that was running on a Hornby milk van chassis, as the wheels wouldn't go through my curved points. However I think assembling a brass chassis is beyond me....

 

I do have three GWR four-wheel coaches which were part of my original set for my 5th birthday and are currently in a somewhat mismatched rake with two Ratio 4-wheelers! I have no intention of chopping my Hornby coaches about, for sentimental reasons. However it does occur to me that it might be possible to attach a pair of duckets and some window blanking to one coach with Blu-tack to allow the coach to revert to its original form if required (of course, I could always get some more coaches....) 

 

You could take out the middle wheels, remove the flanges by clipping them off and sanding them away until they're flat and flush and then stick them back in, that's what I did. I can show you if you like.

Lately, I am making freelance Pre-Grouping coaches loosely inspired by real-life prototypes like my SECR D/E Class Hybrid 4-4-0. I'm working on a short bogie coach using two Hornby 4-wheel coaches mounted onto an SR Queen Mary Brake Van chassis. What do you think?

It's been a long time since I last updated this thread, but here's my latest freelance locomotive project:

Yes, I know it's blurry because I took it with my phone and I apologise for the quality. The inspiration for it came from the SECR D and E Class 4-4-0s which suit this engine nicely. I will get some coaches in the Bachmann Thomas Range which will became SECR coaching stock. The recently-announced Museum Coaches would suit my time period nicely because of the LNWR-style livery on them so maybe LNWR and Midland flavours to this locomotive?

We'll see, we'll soon see.

On 17/01/2021 at 19:14, Corbs said:

Hello Alex, I came here after seeing your post in Tony's thread.

I have to say your 2-8-2 is absolutely stunning. I've loved this design ever since seeing Ian's one and yours is beautiful.

I'm a big fan of the Maunsell 4-8-0 too, did a little photoshop of it after I saw Matthew's marvellous painting (although in hindsight I should have removed the arches entirely, ah well!).

 

Will be looking forward to seeing more of your progress.

DAY-UM! What a beast of a locomotive! Good luck with the engine in model-form! Also, what if Maunsell designed a 2-8-0 heavy freight locomotive?

6 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

I think you need to do a good drawing to find out what you need.

 

I did. I planned out more WMR locomotives.

I planned an 0-6-0 Saddle Tank and a Heavy Freight Ex-ROD 2-8-0.

9 minutes ago, Miss Prism said:

28xx cylinders are the wrong shape, and too wide for your Drummond, and your Drummond crankpin throw is probably 12", so would be unsuitable for the 28xx setup. You need something more like the Hornby MR compound cylinders.

 

Sure but how can I obtain them? Would I have to find a Compound chassis in order to use them?

On 09/01/2021 at 17:46, 1466 said:

On my Hornby 28xx :

From centre of small end to centre of big end is 42.8 mm

Maximum width across cylinders 35.2 mm

Length of cylinder 17 mm  .

Would it be possible to fit them onto the Drummond 700 Class to make my Mogul?

On 04/01/2021 at 15:43, Gibbo675 said:

I think my version is actually less ugly than Bullied's, just !!!

 

 

Say, I remember seeing that model and it's nice! It deserves to be built and given in a sweet suitable livery!

I'm using the Hornby Drummond 700 Class and I want to add pistons and cylinders onto the chassis, please. Would the Beattie Tank cylinders and pistons with valve gear work?