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Speaking of Princesses, I managed to snatch me up one at a price from my model railway dealer though sadly it's more of a static display model. Originally, I was gonna name it Princess Meghan after Meghan Markle but I changed to Princess Charlotte after Will and Kate's real-life daughter.

The model is gonna have a running number as 6213 and has the LMS lined black livery much like the LMS Jubilees and Royal Scots. I could share some pics here if you'd like me to.

1 hour ago, 33C said:

Or these.... The Furness Baltic and Jones goods are my latest. If the wheel flanges bump on the sleepers, two strokes of a coarse file all the way round and then finish with wet and dry sanding block to polish and they will run fine on your Hornby and Peco code 100!

Gor' blimey O'Riley! So many possibilities, I say!

The Gordon and Henry models are nicely interpreted though they could do with a wee bit more work. The Great Bear model is really nice and fantastic, it looks faithful to the original prototype! The Churchward 47xx Night Owl looks nice as does the Highland Railway Jones Goods Class 4-6-0, the first British Ten-Wheeler and only surviving example with us today!

The Furness Baltic Tank looks nice as does the ill-fated Turbomotive (I say ill-fated because of the crash at Harrow and Wealdstone) and very much what Hornby-Dublo might have done as an exclusive.

I say! Union Mills produces such nice N Scale models, Would they produce the LNWR George the Fifth Class if possible?

I managed to purchase a Triang Hornby 2P 4-4-0 from the 1970s and a Hornby Railways 1990s GWR Saint Class 4-6-0 on E-Bay which I intend to turn into No. 2999 Lady of Legend based on the replica at the Didcot Railway Centre.

Now that I have acquired an old RTR Saint model even though it's the tender-drive model, but who cares? I intend to make a model of the exact replica Saint. All I need to do are make some alterations on the smokebox, cab and running-board and get some customs decals and name and numberplates added on.

As for the 2P, it's for another project which remains a secret.

Three was an E-Bay listing for a Bing O Gauge clockwork LNWR George the Fifth 4-4-0 complete with tender only for £225 and I was considering buying it but I was thinking about cost and where to display it.

14 hours ago, ScottishRailFanatic said:

Morning all,

 

After witnessing the Hornby model of the Peckett ‘W4’ Class, I thought to myself “Why didn’t they make a tender for longer work periods?”. The result was this locomotive, dubbed the ‘W4T’ Class. What do you think?

 

SRF.

Nice render though the smokebox needs work and the tank cap needs removing, too.

1 hour ago, burgundy said:

I am not sure that purple is a great look on a steam loco - especially when all the bolt heads are picked out in a contrasting colour.

Sri Lanka Railway museum

Best wishes 

Eric 

I was going for a blackcurrant colour like this:

The darker shade on the left of this palette is what I am choosing.

4 hours ago, sem34090 said:

I'm pretty sure there have been at least two fictional West Midland Railway schemes in railway modelling history, one (I seem to remember) by Edward Beal way back when and another more recently by @Nile of this parish - They might provide some inspiration!

 

Nice though purple may sound as a livery colour I'd suggest trying it out on a few old loco bodies before settling on it. There is also, I believe (could be very wrong) the problem that purple was, for centuries, a particularly expensive colour which may explain why it probably wasn't used that much on locos in reality. I believe blue was also relatively expensive, and thus relatively uncommon, but obviously it was far from unheard of.

That's interesting to hear. I was only trying to take a modern-day railway company and give it the Steam Days treatment like a Pre-Grouping railway company. Like I said, I did plan out a dark purple (plum/blackcurrant-like) livery, and like other railway companies at the time, they would all have numberplates like the GWR, LNWR and SECR (when it was newly-formed).

1 hour ago, David_Belcher said:

<Harry Hill voice>

 

"Hmm, you like the lining, don't you?"

 

The more complex shapes on the tender can wait until another day. Cabside numbers to do on Thursday night...

 

David

Does it run well in both directions?

I happen to have an idea for a fictional Pre-Grouping railway company based on the modern train operating services that runs (or ran) through my hometown of Kenilworth. I call it the West Midland Railway. I even came up with some liveries for locomotives, coaches and rolling stock:

*Plain dark purple or black for goods or freight locomotives or tank engines

*Dark purple with orange lining for passenger or mixed-traffic engines

*Dark Purple with orange accents for coaching stock

*Light or dark grey for freight stock and brake vans

Private Owner wagons may also be included as well as WWI stock

The line shares similar lines with mostly the LNWR, some of the GWR but also some of the MR. It would have been completed and open to the public in 1851 and would operate from the next 71 years before the Grouping Act of 1923 when the company was absorbed and inherited along with locomotives as well as coaching and freight stock.

The company has a Coat of Arms displayed on either side of the locomotive tender and side-tanks as well as coach sides. Freight wagons have WM lettering on either side.

Well, my LNWR George the Fifth model in Triang-Hornby style is doing fine though it is still yet to be built. A lot of flash has had to be cleaned off and what-not to go. However, I was thinking of using a Triang-Hornby L1 from the early 1970s to make it work better as the chassis I have would require constant cleaning, lubrication and such after a number of uses.

Here are a couple pics of my Streamlined B17/5 model:

The screw I had with me fits fine and the back is another matter as I used blu-tack. But, with a drop of UHU (I haven't got any threadlock with me so it had to do), it should hopefully fit fine. It does run well in both directions which is a nice bonus.

As for my other model, the Triang-Hornby George the Fifth, it's steadily coming along fine. Hopefully, it will be constructed soon.

5 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

The Bachman ex-Mainline LMS Period 1 brake third and composite are probably the nearest thing. They are functionally identical to LNWR 57 ft elliptical-roofed corridor carriages of 1911 onwards - number and layout of compartments - although the exterior styling is Midland. Plenty of Georges kept their black livery (often wartime unlined black) well into the 1920s, by which time the Period 1 stock would be on the best expresses anyway. The Mainline carriages could often be got at bargain prices on second hand stalls, pre-Covid, so ringing around a few second-hand dealers you could probably get some. Better than nearly £50 for new Gordon express coaches!

I could try those, good thinking.

2 minutes ago, jcm@gwr said:

 

I wasn't thinking about period authenticity, more about the easiest route to achieve the most 

appropriate looking stock for the loco.

I just did my research on them and they were released around the time of the Triang-Hornby era, so I could go for them and give it a try.

6 minutes ago, jcm@gwr said:

You might be better trying to adapt/modify the Hornby Caledonian coaches.

 

Do you think I should? They weren't released until the period of the Tri-ang Hornby Era.

8 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

The LNWR had nothing that looked remotely like these. 

 

 

The old Ratio now Parkside kits are perfect if you can build kits. They aren't particularly hard kits. As you have mentioned painting them into LNWR, that's the hardest part IMO.

 

Linked to Hattons for convenience.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/493778/parkside_models_pc730_lnwr_50_arc_roof_third_class_coach_plastic_kit/stockdetail.aspx

 

 

Jason

Well, I have had experience with those and they aren't all that easy to assemble and they don't come with instructions. Plus, getting them to run well is kind of an ordeal. The bogies they supply aren't that well made and probably wouldn't last very long. That's why I used Bachmann Maunsell Southern coach bogies and they fit the part quite nicely.

Triang never did have any LNWR coaches in their range so this is one of the things I am amending for as part of Hornby's Centenary Year.

I am currently working on a 1960s Triang-Hornby style LNWR George the Fifth Class model using the old GEM kit and the Triang L1 Chassis as required. It did get me thinking about the right rolling stock for it to haul. I was thinking of using Triang Clerestory Coaches (composite and brake) painted in the LNWR colours as to reflect the time that the models would have been produced in that period during and after the Triang-Hornby takeover/rebranding. What do you all think? Would I have to modify the rooftops as well?

On 11/01/2013 at 14:23, knobhead said:

Finally! Number plates and lining on the back panel in place.

Fantastic model, that! I hope and expect it runs well in both directions.

Just an update for you all to hear on this thread;

My 1980s Hornby Railways LNER Streamlined B17/5 is coming along nicely and has been straightened out at the back. All I need to do now are to get some screws sorted out as well as priming, painting, numbering, naming and boxing.

My 1960s Triang-Hornby LNWR George the Fifth is doing alright. The tender has been assembled together on a Triang Hornby tender chassis respectively and much better than builfing it from scratch though modifications are needed. The locomotive in general has a long way to go. Perhaps I could find some clerestory coaches and repaint them into LNWR colours (most likely in keeping with the Triang Hornby feel).

As for my 1970s Hornby Railways S15, well, decals are another matter as soon as I find the right ones. More to come soon.

On 08/10/2019 at 11:11, Hattons Dave said:

 

Today we’re excited to announce our new rolling stock project in OO Gauge, Genesis 4 & 6 wheel coaches.

 

In the mid to late 1800s, the many operating companies in the UK were 

producing their own versions of the 4 and 6 wheel coach, which introduced many features onto the railways - lighting, continuous braking and even upholstered seats for all passengers. This led to them being a very common sight. 

 

Many designs consisted of only a handful of coaches, built to fill a specific need. These would also only wear the colours of the company they were built for. A good number were absorbed at the 1923 grouping and some found new leases of life on branches that were in need of simple stock to run on them. Some were taken into departmental stock or used by sheds and depots as simple stores vans and used until the 1950s.

 

Project Genesis faithfully represents the trains of the Era 2 & 3 period and brings modellers the opportunity to run a detailed train of coaches in liveries not normally seen in ready-to-run form.

 

Product Specification

• Lit and unlit options
• Lit versions have an 18 pin digital decoder socket
• Warm yellow LEDs used on lit versions
• 6 different body toolings
• 2 fully detailed underframes
• Optional lower footboards
• Full brake rigging
• Fine detailing on panelling
• Painted interiors
• Optional semi-permanent coupling bar representing a coupling chain
• 3 types of wheels (Mansell, 3 hole and disc)
• 3 types of roof furniture (oil lamps, gas lamps, electric lights)
• Removable centre wheelset on 6 wheel coaches
• Sliding centre wheelset on 6 wheel coaches for tight curves
• Fully lined liveries to the original company specifications
• Unique running numbers between single coaches and packs
• Carefully selected running numbers to fit with companies numbering systems
• Packs of coaches to create an instant train
• RP25 wheel profile
• NEM pockets
• Minimum radius - Radius 2 (438mm)

 

Tooling Variations

• 4-wheel chassis
• 6-wheel chassis (features removable center axle and replacement framing)
• 4-wheel bodies (4 compartment, 5 compartment and brake)

• 6-wheel bodies (4 compartment lavatory, 5 compartment and brake)
• Coach ends (plain, footsteps, 4 wheel brake, 6 wheel brake)
• Roof furniture (Oil lights, gas lights, electric lights)

 

Coach Types

Using the above tooling variations we are able to produce a range of coaches. These include:

 

BT - Brake, Third Class

T - Third Class

S - Second Class

F - First Class

C12 - Composite (First and Second class)

C13 - Composite (First and Third class)

C123 - Tri-composite (First, Second & Third class)

CL - Composite Lavatory

 

Liveries

Batch 1

For our first batch we are initially releasing 7 main liveries with a mixture of coach types between each livery. These will be available from Q1 2021.

GWR - Great Western Railway - ‘Chocolate and Cream’ livery with brown lining

 

GNR - Great Northern Railway - ‘Teak’ livery with yellow and blue lining

 

LNWR - London & North Western Railway - ‘Plum and spilt milk’ fully lined

 

SECR - South Eastern & Chatham Railway - ‘Crimson Lake’ lined

 

LMS - London Midland & Scottish Railway - ‘Midland style’ crimson

 

LNER - London North Eastern Railway - ‘Pre-war brown’

 

SR - Southern Railway - ‘Maunsell Olive Green’ with yellow lining

 

British Railways - Departmental

 

Batch 2

We are also announcing plans for a second batch of coaches with further liveries which are not covered as part of Batch 1. These are available to pre-order but at this time do not have a confirmed release date. We will provide more information following the release of Batch 1 in Q1 2021.

 

GCR - Great Central Railway brown and grey

GER - Great Eastern Railway chocolate

L&Y - Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway brown and tan

MR - Midland Railway crimson

LSWR - London & South Western Railway brown and tan

BR - British Railways crimson

NCB - National Coal Board blue

 

Batch 3

We will be producing a third batch of coaches which will be available following on from the release of the first two batches but are not currently available to pre-order. Currently proposed liveries are:

 

North Eastern Railway

Caledonian Railway

Metropolitan Railway

Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway

Longmoor Military Railway

Further BR Departmental examples

 

Pricing

Coaches will be available as single items as well as packs of four. Coach numbers will be different between single coaches and those from packs.

 

Single unlit coach - £30

3 pack of unlit coaches - £85

4 pack of unlit coaches - £110

 

Single lit coach - £36

3 pack of lit coaches - £99

4 pack of lit coaches - £135

 

Availability

Delivery for Batch 1 will begin in Q1 2021. 

 

Not all models will be available at the same time but all models within a specific livery will be released at the same time.

 

For full information on the project and to read more information visit www.hattons.co.uk/genesis

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you guess which ones I am most likely looking forward to as well as getting? If you guessed the LNWR, GWR, Midland, GNR and SECR ones, you are right. Those are the ones I would definitely get hence my love of Pre-Grouping Steam.

5 hours ago, Captain Pugbash said:

haha thanks, was actually inspired by this pic

Nice photograph! It does look rather continental.

2 hours ago, Captain Pugbash said:

some progress, handrail fitted, chimney changed, safety valve cover added
plonk it it front of a station, add some figures, faff around with some filters and it looks somewhat like an old photograph

 

It looks like something from a reprint of a novel by Charles Dickens! Nice work.

20 minutes ago, Captain Pugbash said:

begone cab!

So far, so good! I hope it can run well in both directions. The cab windows are rather too Jinty-like, so perhaps a different cab might work?

Just now, Captain Pugbash said:

smokebox door and some might get replaced too

What about the safety-valve? Midland Railway locomotives had those as much as GWR locomotives.

3 minutes ago, Captain Pugbash said:

going to repaint her comletely, probs going to be MR maroon

Thought so. Midland Railway maroon/crimson is nice. It would have a late-Victorian/Edwardian feel to it.