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Hullo, Tony!

I hope you are doing alright during these harsh, unfair, uncompromising, trying and difficult times. Also, I have been at work on several projects myself:

*Retro-style models in celebration of Hornby's Centenary Year (or whatever's left of it)

*Pre-Grouping Vintage Trains (which I started in late-2016/early-to-mid-2017 prior to joining this website)

*Taking modern-day train companies and giving them the Steam-era (mostly Pre-Grouping) treatment

What do you think of these ideas?

And now, as an added bonus, a brake van bash!

The chassis is a cut-down Hornby Four Wheel Coach chassis cut and shut together. The body is a but-built yet sorry-looking LSWR brake van body which was then repaired and painted in WMR grey with black roof. Note that this was also my first time lettering freight wagons so please excuse me on some parts.

Work on the 2P 4-4-0 is nearing completion, work on the 3F 0-6-0 will soon commence - just a heads up!

Once I apply the lining, numberplates and coat of arms, it'll be complete! Expect photographs here, soon.

(Just like I promised; my WMR 3F 0-6-0!)

You'll have to excuse the lighting, but this was the hard work I put into it. You can see the GWR milk churn safety valve, the LNWR piano-front and the Belpaire firebox. The tender has also been modified at the back. The model runs well in both directions.

Now, I was intending to paint it into the plain unlined violet livery or keep it black - what do you folks think? Personally, I was hoping to give her the violet livery in the same style as the GER Y14, the SECR C Class (which I used), the GWR 2301 Class and the Midland 3F Class 0-6-0. My railway company would be a much fanciful one as with keeping in the Pe-grouping aesthetic.

2 hours ago, Sophia NSE said:

She's not the biggest, or the most powerful, and she has an odd coloured buffer which I think gives her character, but she's all my own work!

 

What a cute and adorable tank engine! I was thinking of sharing my WMR tank engines here once I finished them.

Well, after an improvement to the sides and cab, it looks much better and smoother.

Nothing wrong with a bit of sanding and smoothing down as well as repainting - the lining will come in due time as well as numberplates and company Coat of Arms if possible.

Ah, yes! I was thinking very carefully about that. Perhaps the United Caledonian Railway would be a good company, thanks for the suggestion! The United Caledonian Railway it is, then.

That all seems rather complicated but it's not something I'd be willing to try. It's more of an expert thing, really. Mind you, I did happen to think up a London and South Eastern Railway 4-4-2 Atlantic if you wish to hear.

This is a fun project I have been doing based on the West Midlands Railway which is what I have been working on and this was the start of something special - taking a handful of modern-day railway companies and giving them the Pre-Grouping steam era treatment.

*The West Midlands Railway (based on the modern-day train service company) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Midlands_Trains

*The Great North Eastern Railway (based on the former modern railway company) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_North_Eastern_Railway

*The London and South Eastern Railway (based on the modern-day train company of the same name) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_(train_operating_company)

*The East Midlands Railway (based on the modern train company of the same name) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Midlands_Railway

*The Midland and Grand Central Joint Railway (based on two companies merged together) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Midland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_(train_operating_company)

*The Wrexham and Shropshire Railway (based on the original yet short-lived company) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrexham_%26_Shropshire

*The English, Welsh and Scottish Railway (based on the original railway company but given a steam-era treatment) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Cargo_UK

*The West Coast and Mersey Railway (based entirely on the West Coast Railway Company with Merseyrail) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseyrail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Railways

As well as designing locomotives and coaches, I will be working on freight rolling-stock, too. Well, that's my Pandemic Lockdown project sorted!

Here's what I made with one, an LNWR 19" Express Goods 4-6-0:

Yes, I know that the wheels and chassis are all too similar, but it was the best I could work with.

This, along with other projects, fuelled my interest in the Pre-Grouping Era. I am working on an LMS version of it, but sadly the project has been stalled.

On 30/10/2020 at 02:43, 33C said:

I seem to get a lot of B12's come through my hands, probably more than Princesses lately, so ,as threatened earlier, here are my conversions, done over the last 10 years....L.N.W.R./L.M.S. Claughton, Caledonian 908 class, G.E.R. S69, G.C.R. B2, L.N.E.R. C1, L.S.W.R. T9 Paddlebox and L.N.W.R. "Prince of Wales" class.

The LNWR Prince of Wales and Claughton locomotives I like as well as the GER S69 and the GNR C1 Atlantic.

Say, how could you make a 4-6-0 chassis into a 4-4-2 chassis?

To let everyone know, I was doing alright with my 2P; I meant to share pics of it here but unfortunately my old phone was being a bit of a pain and testing my paitence, so I have to share links to them instead:

The brass chimney is now painted except the chimney cap and the firebox now smoothened off has been repainted along with the splashers. Hopefully, with my new phone, it will be easier for me to share more pics of the model here, hopefully.

So, after today, or at least tonight,, my WMR 2P has been improved on as you can see in the photographs

Yes, I know that the Milliput I use is white, but after an black undercoat followed by the darkened Battleship grey I used on the tender, it'll look nicer.

Just sharing some progress on my 2P - my next locos in my WMR fleet I hope to do are the 0-6-2T and 0-4-4T tank engines, the 0-6-0 mixed-traffic/goods tender engine and possibly a modified ex-GCR/ROD Class 2-8-0, mainly the GWR 30xx variant with some modifications to the tender, running-board and boiler. When the shapework is done, I must decide whether to paint the locomotive plain goods black or plain dark violet.

My coaches as you can see will soon be picked up on along with the livery.

Some more has been done on the 2P!

The original chimney has been replaced with a GWR 78xx Manor chimney which I thank is a lot better and wider than the original chimney. Soon, I will be using a Bachmann C Class 0-6-0 for the mixed-traffic/goods locomotive, a Hornby H Class 0-4-4T and a Bachmann 0-6-2T for my own WMR tank engines.

4 hours ago, CKPR said:

Ah, Invisible Engine Purple  - a spot on colour for a regional pre-grouping company ! [see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotives_of_the_Hull_and_Barnsley_Railway for a description of the H&BR's 'invisible green'].

And I quite agree with you, Sir! In fact, I am intrigued by engines from smaller companies, even joint ones. The dark violet is what I went for.

Here I am back with the shade of dark violet I was talking about.

Yes, I know it looks brown, but this was the best I can do. I'll take a better picture of it in the daytime.

After so much effort and work, here are the locomotives I have planned and designed similar to Pre-Grouping steam locomotives.

The passenger and freight rolling stock will soon be added to the roster. I will be creating my own coaches inspired by the GWR, Midland clerestory coaches and the SECR Birdcage Coaches. The brake van I once created will be added to the list as I already had it pre-made beforehand.

10 hours ago, The Johnster said:

Why is 110 wearing a condom...

To answer your question, it is a rain cover as when steam locomotives are not in use or on display mainly outside, enthusiasts or preservation members would put them on as to prevent rain from dripping inside the safety valves into the smokebox.

I hope that's helped.

On 10/03/2020 at 10:55, StuartMc said:

 

Speaking of Gaiman, what about Troll Bridge, which is set on a disused railway line.

 

 

Although the art is generally fantastic, RMers may have to avert their eyes from this panel:

 

The train looks similar to the movie version of the Hogwarts Express (a GWR Hall Class used in real-life) minus its tender. I'm starting to see the connection.

4 hours ago, sir douglas said:

just about everything shortened except the cab

Omigiddygosh! It reminds me of Tom's Freelance 0-4-0 tender locomotive model I helped design! Nice render.

Well, here's more of my Saint Class as promised.

This thread makes me think about the WMR tank engines.I would have an 0-6-0T, an 0-4-4T, an 0-6-2T and an 0-8-0T.

An 0-6-0T for shunting and branchline traffic, an 0-4-4T for local suburban passenger, an 0-6-2T for mixed-traffic duties and local branchline traffic and an 0-8-0T for heavy shunting and coal trains. Of course, I would have to find some locos to work with.

7 hours ago, DavidCBroad said:

That's an impressive fleet for a small railway, I think only the Great Central had a mix of 4-4-2, 4-4-0 and 4-6-0 express power, the GWR had 3  4-4-2s and 100+ 4-6-0s post WW1 and the NE some rather sluggish 4-6-0s backing up is 4-4-2s...
That said Beyer Peacock built some 2-8-2 Tanks for Australia very similar to the GCR 8K  but with tanks, no great surprise as their works were a stones throw from the GCR Gorton works.      Some of the fun is adapting RTR to look different, the Triang Jinty makes a nice 0-4-4T and a change of cab to full width, new chimney and smokebox door makes it look very different, but when it comes to chopping up Bachmann 2-8-0s well....

A lot of locos were designed and built by outside contractors and showed a family likeness, for instance 
The ex GSWR 4-6-0s, the MSWJR 4-4-0s and some of the Bengal - Napur railway locos look very similar.

Some railways bodged their own shunting locos together from old bits, Highland and L&Y, some bought standard designs from completely different makers, MSWJR 0-6-0 and 4-4-0, very different.   Others, Col Stephens especially, snapped up bargains  and the LSWR was selling 4-4-2Ts and the LBSC Terriers circa 1900 if you want an excuse for repainted RTR pre 1923
My current project is a fictitious Isle of Skye railway in OO on a Minimum size board so I am cutting up Pollys to make 4-4-0Ts, M7s to make 4-4-2Ts, Annies and Clarabels to make non corridor coaches and anything else I can get my hands on, might draw the line at a Triang Princess, or maybe not.  Have fun.

Nice suggestions, there!

I would need to find a Triang Jinty body and the right 0-4-4T chassis to accommodate it (Possibly the SECR H Class chassis) as well as a GWR smokebox door without BR numberplate and the right cab for it. Three simple rules come to mind for a good working model- strength, character and accuracy.

The first locomotive I started work on was the 3P 4-4-0 using a Hornby D49 with the removed cylinders, valve gear and steam pipes. The cab has been altered to look less LNER, I will be posting pics of the model in progress as I am basing my 3P on the ACE Trains O Gauge Freelance 4-4-0.

Known as the Celebration Class, I intend to make a 00 version of it in WMR livery alongside this O Gauge Basset-Lowke 0-6-0 Goods Locomotive I also plan to model in 00 respectively.

I was thinking of getting away with using a Bachmann C Class 0-6-0 model with modified splashers to do the job although there may be other 0-6-0 tender locomotives to choose from. What does everyone think?

Kindly leave your thoughts and comments below!

The various locomotives on the railway (I have decided) would be used as listed:

*Express Passenger 4-4-0s and later 4-6-0s with a few 4-4-2s

*Mixed-traffic 0-6-0s (some rugged types would be chiefly for use on freight duties) and later 2-6-0s

*Heavy Freight 2-8-0s (possibly a repurposed ex-GCR 8K/ROD 2-8-0)

*Shunting 0-6-0Ts and heavy 0-8-0Ts (the 0-8-0Ts would be seen hauling coal and steel trains along branch lines)

*Local Passenger and branch line traffic 0-4-4Ts and 0-6-2Ts

Next time, I will talk about passenger rolling stock, freight rolling stock, station signs, signalling and such.

At long last, I finally got around to completing the West Midlands Railway Coat of Arms.

This crest was made up of elements from other coats of arms including Wolverhampton, Coventry, Birmingham and of course the West Midlands itself. However, I could have used the proper West Midlands Coat of Arms, but which one should I stick with?

Plus, I intend to render my fleet in a dark violet colour akin to the EMU trains on the West Midlands Railway EMUs seen here which is and was how and where I got inspiration from.

The purple is a darkened violet and the orange is used for lining and this colour scheme is used on passenger coaching stock as well.

Well, my Saint Replica of Lady of Legend is taking shape after it runs well and better.

The running board is suppsoed to look more like the original Churchward style as opposed to the later Collett rebuild/modifications.

Perhaps there's something to be said about these olde tender-drive Hornby trains; they run better compared to Hornby's Railroad models like the B17, the D49 and the 2P. Once I obtain the nameplates and numberplates, she'll look lovely!