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Feel free to keep posting your issues in the z/Z21 app thread but be equally prepared not get resolutions to your issues as they are nothing to do with the app - as I said, all you gripes and complaints about the app not doing x or y have all been down to issues external to the app and the app has performed correctly.

The z/Z21 app hasn't yet demonstrated a single fault related to you issues and all your problems have been with your wiring and the use of the Smails. Similarly the issue of a loco stalling when going over a frog has nothing to do with the z/Z21 app, hence asking you to place your question in the right places is suggested. You will benefit because most people ignore a thread on z/Z21 app as they don't use it, whereas they may use Peco rails and tunouts, Smails or even wire up their layouts.

@Knuckles can we stick to z/Z21 App problems in the z?Z21 thread please? You can start other threads in the appropriate places for all your other problems.

John This cannot ever work - you have the same issue as the poster with the problem because the last 3 logic states you show in the image are the same yet you suggest they will have a different outcome - not possible.

I suggest that you walk away until tomorrow morning then; 1) delete the slip from the app 2) readdress both point motors to the chosen addreses by creating 2 normal turnouts 3) confirm that both motors are switching independently on the correct addresses 4) recreate the slip and type in the numbers that you assigned in point 2 5) hopefully sit back and enjoy but if the motors don’t go the way you want then ensure you use the instruction provided by Roco at the bottom of the screen for configuring the slip and also ensure that you don’t end up with the logic you show above, the logic can only be a variation of what all has by moving complete lines up or down

John There have been many references to faults in the app by this poster and every fault has proved not to be a fault. The logic that Alan shows is the default logic for a full double slip and has worked perfectly for the 3 that I have set up for other people layouts (not available in my scale ) I will admit though that we have only used the app to set up the point motors as thereafter we have used iTrain to control them - which is the same as Keith displays for TC9.

Please stop saying in every post that there are issues with the app, the app works perfectly for what you are trying to do - it doesn't endear you to people when you keep blaming the tools and there are no faults with the tools

@Knuckles Take a look at your logic and then look at Alan's logic and you will see that your's cannot work and can only ever cause the issues that you are having - you have the same logic for bother straight through and for curved Change the logic to what Alan shows and you should find that it works.

Why not post the picture as Alan has done (but with your slip and settings) and then we can show you what needs to be set which as you can see is eminently feasible.

Touch of desperation in this defence methinks BTW - even in a VM you need a licenced version of windows, which adds another £120 to the cost of an already expensive program, plus you have the dongle issues to deal with which can sometimes be a challenge in a VM

You are correct, iTrain is available in Mac, Windows and Linux versions - people even run it on a Raspberry Pi Whereas RR&Co is only available to run on Windows.

try swiping to the left like you do in other iPhone apps

Don't you mean 1.41 times the DC input voltage (which will be the RMS value)?

Did you use the grid to create these plans or did you do it freeform? the grid makes it much easier and created a good mimic diagram

Look at the link through Chrome or the new MS Edge and either of them will auto-translate the posts into English

The new app is really designed for tablets when using the mimic diagram, the phone is just a throttle

When did it go away? Always been there

I guess that they were thinking about the people who want to use the range of accessories that they produce that don't integrate with the old app, and also people who want to have a schematic of entire layout with feedback showing where the trains are, plus a larger layout the old app wasn't easy to use, needing to swap between multiple pages. There are lots of reasons but ultimately it is your decision what you want to use, Roco made their decision and created the latest version of the app and stopped updating the old app. Personally I prefer the new app - especially on tablets and I can absolutely see the attraction for the generation that they are aiming their product at.

Is laying direct onto plywood quiet?

why don't you try it and see if it works then you could tell people

Have you searched Google - second hit on the list I got.

I clean my track religiously every 6 months and immediately run a 2b pencil over it. I then clean the loco wheels periodically (usually about once per month) and everything runs like clockwork (actually not like clockwork as I have 2 clocks that don’t like this heat!)

The connections supported on the Z21 are shown here https://www.z21.eu/media/Kwc_Basic_DownloadTag_Component/root-en-main_47-661-310-665-313-downloadTag-download/default/45d3330f/1536565785/z21-black-en.pdf What protocol does the ECoS Mobile Control 2 use? if you can identify that then you will be able to identify which bus could be used.

You should the PSX-1 to protect the track bus only and feed an accessory bus directly from the z21. you then feed all the accessories - points, signals, lighting, etc from the accessory bus and the trach from its own bus. The advantages to this method are that when you get a track short e.g. overrun points, then you can still switch the point and after switching the PSX-1auto-resets and the train will start to run without the hand-of-god