Gibbo675

Strange, I could have sworn that the greatest number of deaths that have occurred in train fires all occurred in loco hauled stock.  Not from engine fires I grant you but not having an engine under the floor doesn't guarantee you won't die in a train fire.  Indeed, having an engine under the floor is irrelevant as underfloor engine stock has to be built with a fire barrier as part of the floor structure.

Here is one of your reasons for underfloor fires,

Hope you find it interesting.

Would stamp collecting be OK?

 

Do they know why it failed and they are just not saying, or is it still a mystery?

Hi Andy,

I stumbled across this thread just this evening for the first time and have had a good read and here are my observations.

1. The combination lever was blued in the area of failure which is of the elastic-plastic type failure mode there fore the lower end would have been moving back and forth with the cross head at about seven-eight times a second at the speed that it failed at with the top fixed or partially fixed either at or within the valve cross head slide.
2. The likely cause of the fixing in position of the valve cross head would be seizure of the valve heads within the cylinder liner of the valve chest of that engine (the locomotive has three engines).
3. There are three likely causes of seizure of a valve head within its liner, 4. Lack of lubrication, 5.That the ring gaps of valve rings were incorrectly set, 6. That the clearance between the valve head and the liner are incorrect.
4. Lack of lubrication may be caused by, a. Check valve failure within the lubrication line, b. Failure of that particular pump within the lubricator, c. Failure of the atomised steam supply to that particular lubrication line, d. Incorrect drifting practice causing smoke box gasses to burn off the lubrication causing localised heating and galling of sliding surfaces, e. Unlikely but possible, the lubricator was incorrectly filled with the wrong oil, bearing grade not steam grade, or the grade of steam oil has been unfortunately supplied to an incorrect specification.
5. If the gaps of the rings are less than 1/16" of one inch when fitted into the liner when cold they may in service expand enough that they become tight within the liner which then causes more friction and more expansion, (the heads and rings run hotter than the liners despite all being grades of cast iron which have similar coefficients of expansion).
6. The incorrect clearance being applied will affect performance in the same way as the valve rings above.
7. They know damn well what went wrong but it will be swept under the soggiest of ash in the very bottom of the ash pit !

What you also need to know about steam locomotive valve failure is that it could be possible to be all or none of the above, they are quite tricky like that !

Gibbo.

I'm sure the Likes of trump will make sure it goes the same way as TSR2!

Now there is a story, my Grandfather was a Ministry of War cost accountant and was party to the cancellation.

His other claim to fame was signing the cheques for EECo Lightnings.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-to-take-leading-role-in-next-generation-air-power-as-defence-secretary-launches-combat-air-strategy

 

Impressive, I just hope the government see's this through.

I'd rather that the gubbermunt spent the money they lever out of my fist in the form of taxes on something a little more worthwhile than planes that may be shot down with relatively cheap missiles.

I like the conversion for Northumbrian

Thanks for the compliment.

The loco was was built up as usual leaving off the chimney and inserting plate frame sides from black .020" plasticard. Then I made the drum type smoke box and extended the height of the fire box similarly, the chimney being cut down in length and glued directly on to match the height of the Rocket which was also in the works. The cylinders were then positioned at an angle that seemed right at the same spacing from the wheel as Rocket's along with cutting off the boiler fittings and re fitting them as you see them with paint to finish. The crew had their top hats reduced and a bit of plastic surgery to their arms to make them more like enginemen.

The tender is a cut and shut of the original with overlays and additions, the coal rails were painful.

Gibbo.

Here is the picture I used;

It is absolutely astonishing how much those Mataro coaches are sometimes successfully sold for. I managed to bag a pair for a fiver sometime back however and decided that they'd eventually appear completely fictitiously in a old GWR lvery. Here's one: the coach has over-scale wheels to lift it a little higher.

 

 

Tony

I was lucky with my latest pair at £7.50, I ducked out a few months back when they went for about three times that. Your paint job is better than mine, my eyesight isn't what it was even with my specks on!

The only Keyser kits that I have are the Mataro carriages, two of which I have had for over twenty years built but not painted and two that I acquired form eBay just a couple of weeks ago.

I also purchased two Dapol Rocket kits to go with them one converted to look like Northumbrian.

Rocket with its train.

Northumbrian with a similar working.

Double Header !

The carriages are slightly modified in that I have put in compartment dividers and floors but no seats, the foot boards have been cut down to single steps and Dapol spoked wagon wheels fitted. One of the mail coaches has had windows cut into it so that there would be three first class carriages and a mail coach.

Diesel emissions scandal: VW fined €1bn by German prosecutors

 

Volkswagen has been fined €1bn (£880m) over diesel emissions cheating in what amounts to one of the highest ever fines imposed by German authorities against a company.

 

Remind me again what penalties the UK government has imposed?

The emissions scandal strangely broke just a day or two after VW Audi group opened an engine plant in Путинская Россия which was against the "unilateral trade sanctions" that had been placed upon those dealing with Russia. Such "unilateral trade sanctions" are, according to international law considered acts of war by the UN which has said nothing upon the subject.

This bit of the emissions scandal is for some reason left out of the news that is feed via MSM.

Sooner or later it had to come -  cowboys wired for sound and who better than Jul Brynner to provide the sparks- but you'll need a packet of fuses mind you. This guy's lightnin' fast !

 

Silly idea you might ask and  maybe so, but a brilliant one all the same!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I particularly like the pneumatic tyre tracks in the foreground of this photograph !

Which is worrying because glyphosate derivatives are found in shampoos and toothpaste (sorry, gone O/T again). 

Hi Jonny,

Perhaps we need a new thread titled, "What the tin DOES NOT tell us !?!?"

Gibbo.

The ones I bought not long ago are still glyphosate.

 

Keith

Glyphosate really isn't good for the digestive system and causes leaky gut syndrome whereby gut bacteria may cross into the blood stream and cause all sorts of illness' and irritation of the gut.

What don't they do that they are supposed to do?

(Keep it clean and no swearing)

 

Keith

Keith,

I feel that it is not so much what they do but more how they go about life. Should I ever attempt to provide what I feel a woman wants via any sort of request she may make, then somehow I end up in bother, lots of bother.

Therefore what it says upon the the tin [of the woman] is a most mysterious form of misinformation that leads to both my confusion and their ire.

Alternatively it might just be me !

Gibbo.

Not an 86 but will this do?

 

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Cheers

 

Darius

One might say even better !

I have a fleet of Trix bodied electrics, 3 AL1's, along with an AL2, an AL3, an AL4 and an AL5 by way of cut and shut capers. Bogies are all modified and are, Hornby 86 AL1 & AL5, Hornby Hymek AL2 and Lima 33. I fortunate enough to snap up a load of body shells at a Dapol stand many years ago at a show, I think Southport in 1989, to go with my original second hand one from 1973. I must get around to finishing them off properly, unfortunately no photos from my end.

Gibbo.

More progress.

 

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Only six more to do...

 

Cheers

 

Darius

I do hope that you have you got an 86 in Rail Blue with full yellow ends, white cab roof and the early crest ?

Super work and such and at such a good rate too.

Gibbo.

Gibbo

 

Not a case of not doing what you hoped or wished it might say on the tin, if there had been one, which there wasn't, at all, is it?

 

Anyway, on safer ground: 99% of plasterboard fixings ever made (the toggle ones included, because they won't work in our house because of the insulation behind the board). Oddly enough, the 1% is about 50% of those metal pointy-ended ones (half the time they shear while being installed, even if you keeping backing off to get the dust out).

 

Kevin

Mr Kevin,

The trick with the metal plaster board fixings is to drill a pilot hole a slight less than the core of the fixing so that the plaster board still grips it and is not relying upon just the thread for anchorage. The other advantages are that you will achieve much greater accuracy in placing the fixing and also assists greatly in reducing compression fracture of the plaster board itself, there is an equation for such fracture, I think by Helmholtz but would stand corrected on that one.

Mr Gibbo.

Controversial, but both in general and also specifically;

Women ?!?!

Controversial, but both in general and also specifically;

 

Women ?!?!

For any Women reading the above post, it might just be me ?!?!?!

How about this for an odd ball working ?

http://www.prestonstation.org.uk/photoarchive/displayimage.php?album=54&pid=1691#top_display_media

It is a charter to take Preston North End Fans to the 1964 F A Cup final at Wembley.  Unfortunately I can't make out the reporting number in the cab window.

Gibbo.

I mentioned on Corb's thread recently that the main difference between a 0-4-4T and a 0-6-4T is that the former has both coupled axles ahead of the firebox whereas the latter has one astern - the tender equivalents would be a 0-4-2 and a conventional 0-6-0. With three coupled axles ahead of the firebox as in your first version, the boiler becomes unfeasibly long for effective steaming. In the other two designs, the rear coupled axle is in serious conflict with the firebox/ashpan. I know many later 4-6-0s went this way but the boiler was generally higher-pitched. Compare this rather beefy 0-6-4T.

You are quite right in what you have said and although the link to the 0-6-2T shows that although there is an axle under the fire box the wheels are of small diameter allowing for the depth of the firebox and the ash pan to be reasonably fitted in. It would seem that the rear of the firebox would be at about the height of the lower edge of the tank and the front somewhere between the lower edge of the "Dee" cut out and the lower edge of the main frame.

A good rule of thumb way to work out the depth of the firebox is to look on photographs and drawings for the lowest line of washout plugs that are fitted just above the foundation ring. They can be tricky to spot as they lurk between the spokes of wheels and sometimes the rear ones may only be accessed by taking up the cab floor and would not show on a broadside view.

Gibbo.

Your point being,,,?

 

Mike.

All the spigots on the bricks must look just like rivets and that way there are loads and loads to count !!!!

Saturday 26/2/77...

 

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Euston, 28/9/86, Drivers Bob Hart and Melvyn Tweets of Crewe... 

 

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Hi There,

The picture of the drivers and class 25's have made me smile somewhat!

I occasionally worked along side Bob Hart for about 15 years from about 1995 onwards when he was very often traction inspector aboard Riley's locomotives and others that were operated by Riley's at that time on jobs out of Crewe. However the first time I encountered him was on a positioning move between Carnforth and Crewe via Helified, Blackburn, Man Vic, Stockport, Chester and finally Crewe, he was fireman onward from Bolton but let me have a go for my first time out on the main line between Stockport and Crewe. I can't remember who the inspector was that day but the driver was Ray 'Panky' Hatton and the locomotive was some big green LNER thing with a tender that allowed access to fresh brewed tea and cooked dinners.

Happy days.

Gibbo.

Hi folks,

I decided to build a Dapol Drewry class 04 as a trial and used the Railtec wasp stripes.

They were a little bit fiddly but I am pretty happy with the result for a first attempt!

I am back on the modelling scene after a 30 year ish break so still a little rusty!

 

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Hi Ian,

I'm back into modelling after a good twenty years and have some old Lima 09's that have been repainted recently that have just plain yellow ends at the moment. They were put back into the To Do box for the reason that my attempts at painting stripes went a bit wavy, your 04 looks just fine and with luck my 08's will also after similar treatment.

Gibbo.

     For a laugh, I decided to look at 'remixing' a Stirling Single, as if one had been sold to the SER for examination by Patrick Stirling, for consideration of use in the South.

 

     The Stirling cab would be retained, but a SER sprung tender fitted, along with Salter safety valves, a smaller chimney to bring it down into the loading gauge, and SER pattern buffers.

 

     After 1910, and Wainwright getting his hands on the oddity, it was then paired with a Wainwright tender and cab, and turned out in full Wainwright livery. During the War it was placed in store and thus escaped with its livery intact, being used on inspection and director's trains (lightly loaded), and, in my own little world, as an unofficial private locomotive for the Beauclerks until 1927.

 

     It's just something I was curious to see, as to what it would look like, and I rather like the results (all forms!) but I'm sure they wouldn't be to everyone's tastes. Having the safety valves amid-boiler I feel balances the design, but having them right back (as Wainwright would have intended) makes it look more modern, almost Great Eastern in design.

 

     I hope you like it!

 

     - Alex

Hi Alex,

What is required tender wise would be a variation of LMS 10000, the kettle not the parafin camel, that George Hughes used to trog about in.

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/london-midland-scottish-railway-2-4-0-locomotive-number-news-photo/90773519

Gibbo.

It looks as if the smokebox "plate" would have been painted on as well:

 

http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/p127970527/h16FEB993#h16feb993

It would seem that you are correct, well spotted !

That little fell would be better made from the old lima 08 model. We would finally have a good use for the warp speed shunter chassis.

 

 

I remember my fold up to wall layout in the bedroom in the 1970's well, my brothers Lima 09 was faster than pretty much every other loco we had and would pull better than some of the actual main line types that were fitted with traction tyres. Mind you it had a serious chunk of lead inside it !

Gibbo.

Black 5 45318 of  Lostock Hall shed,   2^nd section of  Glasgow/Edinburgh-Manchester/Liverpool service Preston-Liverpool Exchange.Driver, Ernie Hayes

Here is a photo from the book I mentioned earlier;

It doesn't appear that the smoke box number plate is painted red as has been mentioned but the shed plate does appear not to be a plate but slightly wonky paint.

Gibbo.