Otis JB
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I feel they could have been a bit more inventive than just ‘Lego’ but I suppose it is what it is.
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Hi there,
Does anyone have any good alternatives to the Hornby Rocket stock wheels, nothing I have fits and searching online yields little as axle measurements don’t seem to be very common. For reference the rough dimensions are: 12mm wheel diameter and 25mm axle length.
Trying my hand at period stock with resin under frames cast from the 3rd class coach:
Thanks!
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Only just heard about Bellerophon the other day from Railway Modeller and I am tremendously excited for it. I distinctly remember watching some gala weekend film of her in operation thinking 'I bet no one will ever do that'!
Well done KR Models
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58 minutes ago, AY Mod said:
I must say I do like the weathering here. Much more sophisticated and toned down than previous weathered releases.
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I'm very happy that Accurascale are further ahead with theirs than Dapol, it's nice to see other manufactures getting more opportunities. Well done for listening to what the market wants and all the best with this guys!
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2 hours ago, APOLLO said:
"It's the Serious Burns Unit"
I miss the 'groan' button...
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33 minutes ago, Gibbo675 said:
Hi Otis,
Here is a link Stephenson's drawing of a second class carriage which is good for axle box and frame details;
There are some reasonable drawings of wagons in the following links, all of which are quite small:
This one shews a 9' coal container wagon in reasonable detail being hand shunted at Wapping Goods Station;
http://build2understand.10centuries.org/
This one shews various types of wagons on what I have estimated at 9'6" and 12'6" frames;
Gibbo.
Thanks a lot, Gibbo, this will be very useful.
I have been avidly following your excellent efforts at period stock with a close eye, very impressive stuff!
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9 hours ago, adb968008 said:
Hornbys wagons are a generic, based on a guess, based on an artist impression... if you want to see how that go go awry.. take a look at the victorian sculptures of dinosaurs at Crystal palace and convincing victorian illustrated sailors stories of sea creatures and mermaids.
The phrase ‘ a camera never lies’ was only born from the prior technology of Artists impressions.. which can bend the truth, especially if bending it earns money and no one can really question it as its already a few years old when drawn / published...
It is interesting that the majority of early railway art I've come across is extremely flat and unrealistic (at least that which was published for public consumptions in magazines etc). I wonder if that was just the art style at the time or more to do with the fact that people had never seen such things before and were very unfamiliar with drawing them...
Take the piece here for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport_in_Great_Britain_1830–1922
The carriages seem awfully small and crammed and the wheels are barely visible, looking like they aren't supported or connected by any structure at all. They also seem very close to the trackbed and there isn't a hook on the back of the carriage for coupling.
I think you're right in assuming a lot of it was probably done by memory/imagination and it's very interesting to see how people thought these vehicles should be best represented on paper. It would be helpful if there were some accurate drawings from the period though, I feel like I'm trying to piece together a ruined castle at an archeological dig site when all I want is some L&M wagons!
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On 21/01/2021 at 13:19, TurboSnail said:
I think I might have posted it a while back, but here goes - I can't get new pics as it's packed up in my stockbox somewhere, this is all I can find on my PC!
It's got a replacement (i.e. much smaller) motor fitted in the backhead, which slides off vertically if I ever need to get the motor back out. Much of the cab structure is 3D printed. It also has new buffers to replace the dumb ones on the original, and the motion covers have been replaced with a crosshead/slidebar arrangement that actually works now. I think I gave it a new chimney too. Plus a few brass details, coal, crew etc. (and yes, I know the reverser is on the wrong side! Oops...).
It runs well enough, still a bit quick for my liking but no worse than an unmodified Pug. Still needs a decent weathering, but it'll get that after I've built somewhere for it to run!
Gosh that's blooming' gorgeous, well done. This is probably the most temptation I've had to delve into fictional modelling, I really, really want one!
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2 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:
Hardly. Right from their introduction until the mid-20s when the Arthurs arrived, the Js worked key main line services, such as the 5.00 from London Bridge to Brighton. By that stage 4-wheelers were not really visible on everyday LBSC services.
Thanks
2 minutes ago, Edwardian said:Those LNWR coaches do look good in red, though
Oh boy, don't make me start modelling era 3, I have enough to be getting on with as it is!
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Does anyone know if Stroudley 4 wheelers are suitable for a J Class? I doubt it but much stranger things have happened.
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1 hour ago, Ravenser said:
But I have always been struck by how much less we see of the Ratio LNW coaches, compared with the two MR ranges. The LNW coaches were more common , longer lived and lasted significantly later than the MR clerestories
It is slightly odd as the LNW prototypes look great but you have to remember there have been two RTR Midland Compound models out and a 1P in the works for much longer than there have been a Coal Tank (something which many, including myself until recently, think of as solely a goods loco) and much more recently, a Precedent.
Additionally I would argue that the clerestories look and feel 'more LMS'. After all, they have always been red!
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Additionally, it would be really nice to see the Rocket range rolling stock wheels sold separately to aid scratch and kit builders. I can't seem to find any on eBay or Peter's Spares, unlike various bits of Rocket herself. Is this a likely prospect from Hornby in the future?
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23 hours ago, Isambard Smith said:
Ah , the rocket.
The 1st loco ever made and seemingly the only one built before the 1872 when an infinite number of terriers were introduced...
Indeed
I stumbled upon this short 'documentary' of the layout and amazing mid-victorian models of Mike Sharman, well worth a watch:
Great untapped era and huge scope to model, such vibrant and unique designs from countless semi-forgotten companies. I'd love to build an LSWR Shark one day...
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6 minutes ago, AY Mod said:
I believe it to be as per the original.
Did you read the whole list of topics before rushing to post that? P2, 9F etc.
Yes, compared to previous years there aren't that many new steam tools IMO.
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Allegedly this range is bigger than last years but it feels about half the size. Has anyone else noticed this?
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6 minutes ago, scumcat said:
I think the market is probably big enough for both
Maybe but it would be nice to not see two versions of every major model!
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No new steam tools by the looks of it.
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Eek!
Poor Hattons, they really don't deserve this snub IMO.
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6 hours ago, PaulRhB said:
The issue with buying Lucknow is the longer 4 digit number if you want Hardwicke. Painting the roof is the simple option really and with thinned paint a couple of coats should give a nice finish even with a brush. I’ll probably spray mine.
Additionally I really am a fan of the coal rails so I will be going down the painting route...
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1 hour ago, Butler Henderson said:
790 Hardwicke - the white roof has been applied since the loco was withdrawn from railtour use, c.1990s
Can anyone clarify why a white roof was painted please? Did the LNWR originally do it?
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21 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:
Well, a DX - or perhaps rather an SDX - would make an excellent stablemate for the Precedent and Coal Tank.
Hm, I thought the DX was the most numerous. What is then?
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33 minutes ago, No Decorum said:
I have a very nice Coal Tank to keep an Improved Precedent company but my G2As (“Super Ds”) are both in LMS black. As far as I can make out, Bachmann didn’t produce one in LNWR black. If that is right, now would be a good time to knock one out, I would have thought.
5 minutes ago, dagrizz said:I know the history of the LNWR 0-8-0 class is rather complex, but did the version as made by Bachmann actually exist in LNWR days?
Graham
I believe the prototypes are different, as annoying as it is. Additionally I don’t think pre-grouping was ever considered as anything more than a ‘niche’ market to pursue until a few years ago. If I had things my way and all that... -
4 hours ago, JSpencer said:
What? No BR coloured version? I want one for BR. Would No. 1673 Lucknow’ in LNWR Black livery make a good doner for BR black livery?
(Well, someone had to ask!!
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Just ordered one from Locomotion, now when is Gladstone coming?
This must be the first steam loco other than the rocket in 400 years that hasn’t appeared in BR black. Thank goodness, I need a break!
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Locomotion & Rails of Sheffield announce SE&CR D Class
in Rails of Sheffield
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Speechless, absolutely speechless.