thetalkinlens

Thanks for the replies @jwealleans, @Scottiedog@5 and @Worsdell forever. I think changing the wheels will certainly help and that is quite timely for another wagon I'm working on (a NER diagram P4 from a 3d print, which I'll post separately). I haven't been able to find anywhere that has Gibson wheels in stock (might not have looked hard enough!), but I see that 51L do a wagon wheel which looks pretty similar. I was wondering if this was close or even the same? I like the idea of replacing the roof. How do you shape this or is it thin enough to bend on its own? Also how would you approach the items which protrude from the main roof arc? I've ordered several of the 51L wagon kits from Andrew at Wizard in the past. I'd be grateful if anyone can point me to the correct axleboxes, brake levers and buffers etc available from Wizard to go for on the F10. I think making a new underframe from Plasticard should be within my capabilities, but I'm not sure how to go about the various raised shapes that protrude such as the semi circles. I've made a little bit of progress since the last photos posted (picture below). The F10 now has screw link couplings, etched ladders (from a signal ladder set from Wizard), vacuum pipes and I have a Westinghouse pipe to fit too.

I have two of the new Bachmann J72's. One was silent from new, the other was noisy going backwards. It took roughly 10 hours of use for the noise to drop and it now emits the same silent running qualities of the other one.

Another wagon I've started working on recently is the Hornby refrigerated van which is modelled from the N.E.R. Diagram F10. I've picked up R6180, which despite being described as LNER livery in various places online, looks very much to me like NER 1911 to 1922 livery. I have so far, removed the D link couplings, added Smiths hooks, painted the solebar white and removed the horizontal length between the axleboxes, then weathered it with powders. This has put the wagon into the status of being a runner, with some further details to work on. What still remains is to fit vacuum and Westinghouse pipes, replace the ladders with an etch and to fit screw link couplings (hoping this will split to go onto the glued in hooks!). I am half wondering if the overall size of the wagon is larger than it should be. It seems to stand over other NER wagons in my collection in height and width. I'm also pondering on the chassis, which being an entry level Hornby ready to run model is far from accurate. I've noticed the Wimpy Van (R114) which uses the same body moulding has more accurate detail/profile on the solebar, so may look out for one of these to use. The alternative of course would be to scratch build one and make use of axle guards from 51L, however I haven't found any diagrams or details of what axleboxes/brakes the F10's had. I'd noticed @jwealleans has a couple of these on his West End Workbench thread and would be really grateful for any thoughts on this wagon (and anyone else of course!).

N.E.R. diagram B1 No.92379 is now complete following addition of the tare, makers plate and weathering with powders.

Nearing completion is this N.E.R. diagram B1 low sided open wagon. It's a David Geen whitemetal kit. One rather annoying issue I had was having nearly completed putting it together, realised one of the axleguards didn't match the other three. A raid of my kits box I found a set that did match, so that was rectified and I'll have to order some more for the kit they were robbed from. In etch primer. Painted with lettering applied to one side. Tare and makers plate still to add.

Ah well, glad you asked! I painted the profile of the plate black first, then used the white lines from the transfer sheet in the kit to line the edges. The N.E.R. is from a Slaters P7 waterslide sheet and the 18 has come from another waterslide sheet from a Parkside kit. Its easier to see the plate on my workbench post: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/174961-thetalkinlens-north-eastern-railway-workbench/?do=findComment&comment=5054324 The plate should have "Snowplough" in the middle and "No." before the 18, but I didn't take it that far.

I wonder where he's going with that? It's the middle of Summer, but stranger things have happened...

Just completed this @NiuModels Diagram U19 wooden snowplough No.18. The original plough survives and is currently under restoration at Kirkby Stephen East, and usually lives at Pickering on the NYMR.

Another second-hand Slater's P7 hopper wagon has now been re lettered. The before photo, with North Eastern Railway "N" and "E" in the wrong positions and particularly jarring to look at not being symmetrical... Then after... I've kept the same number 162100, as a photo of this wagon exists in the NERA digital archive. It's in LNER livery so I've gone with that. The "20 Tons" has also been replaced with smaller type.

Plough No.12 was built in 1891. The livery it currently carries in the NRM includes shaded lettering and the signal red end. The NER brake vans book by Ian Sadler states the shaded lettering was dropped in 1903 and the signal red ends was "thought also to be discontinued at this time". Based on this it would seem logical that No.12 being built before 1903 (1891) would display the earlier livery with shaded text and signal red ends, and No.18 being built after 1903 (1909) would be indian red all over with no signal red ends and no shaded lettering. I'm not sure if this information for brake van livery directly translates to snowploughs though, but as you say it would be logical that was the case. The thread about the decision to paint the end of No.18 indian red can be found on the first page of this thread: https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2698 Direct quote from that thread:

I'm currently putting my U19 plough together and am debating the colour to paint the rear face for N.E.R. period. The livery details in the instructions say signal red, however trawling through the LNER forum, there is some information from the owner of plough No.18 that his research indicated that by the time this diagram of ploughs were built (1909), the signal red end had been dispensed with and they were painted indian red all over and that is the finish he went with for No.18 itself. In the case of NER brake vans, as I understand it, the same indian red livery was used, but the signal red ends was dispensed with in about 1903, so this would roughly marry up. Does the NERA snow plough book mention this at all?

Next scene.... Christmas dinner in the goods warehouse office...

The first of the P7 hoppers numbered 54143 has now been re-lettered to be L742, a photo of which exists in the NERA digital archive as a reference point. Before... And after...

Living only a few miles from Hallbankgate, this thread is of great interest and looks really impressive. Sadly I missed going to Workington show this year, so I hope it will be exhibited at another venue in the future.

Another pic with some better light on LNER 2313 converted E1 2181.

I picked up five Slaters P7 hoppers on eBay nearly a year ago fully built, but described as "in need of repairs", so I wasn't entirely sure what was going to turn up, though they looked reasonable in the photos supplied. Fortunately, they were all "runners" and very little was needed in the way of repairs. I fitted NEM sockets to the two most free running ones for running with other ready to run wagons I've got. Most of them need some work in correcting the lettering, however... Left: No.162100 has NER type "N" and "E", but should be higher up and the "E" is too far left. There is a photo of this wagon with LNER type "N" and "E" which the wagon on the right carries, so I will probably make 162100 and LNER one. I think the 20 Tons is also the wrong size for LNER so this will be removed too. Right: No.18905 looks to be all correct for LNER livery, so this will stay as it is. Both of these are numbered 54143. They have N.E.R. lettering, which is wrong for P7 wagons, so they are going to be renumbered and lettered to something else. L743 (the 4 has worn off), is mostly correct for later NER livery. The L743 needs to move over so the 7 is left from centre. Some brake detail is missing, so this will be rectified in due course.

I'm sure you'll have been asked this before somewhere in this thread @Worsdell forever, but what font have you used for your custom print lettering on NER wagons?

Here's a lineup of the C10 and C2 plus the Midland 3 plank, which has also had the same weathering treatment.

I've spent a bit more time on these two wagons recently and I think I can say they're both "finished". Both have had makers plates made up from some waterslide transfers out of a Slaters P7 kit and have both now been weathered with powders. Diagram C2 No.60117 Diagram C10 No.M132

An E1 trundles past Wilton Carr Gatehouse in the Vale of Pickering.

Back to around 1916 as an E1 trundles past Wilton Carr.

I'd happily buy another one if they did!

Here is my conversion of J72 LNER No.2313 to E1 No.2181 in N.E.R. livery which has involved a considerable amount of reviewing @Worsdell forever's similar conversion (and yes it is the same number, but the only one allocated remotely near where my modelling is based on!). Parts fitted include: Tapered buffers by "Markits" from Roxey Mouldings Transfers are "HMRS" pressfix Smokebox handwheel is "Mainly Trains" from Wizard Models Smokebox handle is "Comet" from Wizard Models Custom etch numberplate from Narrow Planet / Light Railway Stores Three link couplings are Smiths LP1 Other changes: Armstrong Whitworth makers plate removed Pipework removed from bufferbeams, along the boiler, cab and under the running plate Vertical red lining at rear corners of bunker added Connecting rod joints painted dark grey Light weathering, mostly below the running plate with airbrush

J72 No.2313 has now been transformed into E1 No.2181 following arrival of the custom etch numberplate from Narrow Planet.

One snow plough now ordered 😊