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A query for Accurascale on the livery drawings specifically for ACC2818 : 55985, 52528 and L86 which are in 1911 to 1922 livery. A snippet from North Eastern Record Volume 2 (page 118): "The solebars and pillars on some of these wagons were painted in a lighter shade of grey than the body" Looking at archive photos of these three wagons in the NERA digital archive, they all appear to have the light shade of grey solebars, but the livery drawings on the Accurascale web site appears to show one shade of grey used all over.

More comparisons... The left is Paul Moore's swatch and then centre is the colour sample printed in North Eastern Record Volume.3 which is taken from a sample of the 1925 painting of 1463. The Bachmann green looks much closer in this respect.

And why not... in Photoshop the selected rectangle on the swatch has been given: 60% brightness increase 60% cyan removed from "green" in selective colour So that highly scientific comparison confirms the Bachmann green is both "brighter" and "less blue (well, cyan)".

TMC No.2093 alongside Paul Moore's swatch. My thoughts on this are it's not the yellow/blue shift which differs that much. It's the brightness. I still have no issues with Bachmann saxony green.

Paul's saxony green is his own mix. I have a swatch of it, so will try and take a picture alongside the TMC Class O for comparison. I've also seen Paul's swatch alongside the Phoenix Precision NER loco green and put it this way... I won't be buying the Phoenix one!

What I would consider to be the gold standard of models in NER saxony green would be those painted by Paul Moore. Some 4mm examples here: North Eastern Railway Class W by PAUL MOORE, on Flickr NER Class R by PAUL MOORE, on Flickr NER BTP by PAUL MOORE, on Flickr

I've read various articles over the years within the NERA archives, and they have pretty much always said the green applied to 876 at Beamish back then was not even close to NER saxony green. It will be interesting to see how it looks when it appears in the not to distant future in T.W. Worsdell's livery.

Departing East Tanfield on the Tanfield Railway.

I've posted this one of 1310 further back on this thread when the green shade was brought up at the time the livery samples appeared. I think it's worth re-posting for another comparison to @Edwardian's photos. I think it demonstrates how "yellow" saxony green can look in "full sun". It is an interesting comparison alongside other models in saxony green and how exposure and lighting conditions can vary the result vastly. On the whole I'm of the opinion the TMC Class O is not quite on the money with the shade, but certainly not far off and well within agreeable levels. The final two photos posted by @Edwardian look most acceptable and I'd be tended to say that is how I see them to the naked eye. By the way that Class 290 looks gorgeous @Edwardian!

I guess someone needs some new drawers...

Thanks Mark. Yes, I have a number of archive photos taken by myself in the 90's and supplied by others of the one at Cloughton before it was converted. I've used those photos a lot for reference points on this build. It was the same design to the one my model is intended for - Sawdon on the Pickering to Seamer, with a few minor differences. The warehouse at Sawdon also still stands, but it is now converted to a house.

An update on the N.E.R. small goods warehouse I've been working on, which is now pretty much complete. I've used Modelu downpipe detailing for the first time and generally very impressed with these. I only managed to loose one in the carpet and destroy another!

The green on 2093 looks particularly "right" in this photo. It can look more yellow green in direct sunlight, but then I would argue so does saxony green on 1621, 1310 and 66 (which has recently been seen outside the NRM in the sunshine) to name a few. TMC next commission, some NER clerestory and/or ellipticals??

I think yours will arrive before I get chance, but I do intend to!

When I scrutinised 2093 earlier, it was in natural daylight and there appeared to be barely any difference. Having done the same this evening under a standard 60w light bulb, the colour of the dome is more noticeably different, similar to how camera's appear to be picking up the difference.

The front of the boiler is metal and the rear is plastic to put the weight and balance over the driving wheels. There's no noticeable difference in colour on the boiler.

Mine have turned up in the post this morning. The dome colour was definitely a concern on 2093 seeing the photos/videos posted so far. From my initial scrutiny I would say the colour matches to the naked eye, but somehow the lens of a camera is picking up a difference.

Invoices for my two pre orders came in yesterday evening and this morning. Both of them were dispatched this afternoon.

Best make sure all your doors are locked tonight Paul!

B1 61029 with a few vans on the hook.

Here is the N.E.R. Diagram F10 vent refrigerator van completed, bar any underframe braking detail. It's been my first attempt at scratch building a wagon roof and underframe and overall I'm very happy with how this little project of converting a Hornby ready to run into something at least a little bit more accurate has turned out. Apart from weathering, since the previous post, the wagon has had roof detail added, which is all plasticard. I attempted the roof grab rails in wire initially, but wasn't getting a neat enough bend, so opted for 0.3mm Plastruct rod. The solebars have had some waterslide transfers added. The makers plate is made up from Slater's waterslide transfers. I have no idea if Hornby's choice of 151276 as the number is a work of fiction, but didn't see any reason to change it. Many thanks to @jwealleans and @Worsdell forever for offering advice further up the thread.

About six weeks since my last post on the N.E.R. Diagram F10 ventilated van and I've finally placed an order with Wizard Models and got the various parts needed to make the underframe. Here is the result, which I think is now ready to paint, but if anyone thinks I've missed something, now would be great to let me know! There are vacuum detail still to go underneath, but these will be fitted to the underneath of the body rather than the underframe. I'm thinking of making these from plasticard rather than sourcing whitemetal castings or brass etches. Here is the parts list in case it is of use to anyone. All parts are from Wizard Models. Axle guards NERC007: 51L NER No. 1D J-Hanger Wagon Oil Axleguards Brake Levers NERC029: 51L NER Fitted Wagon Morton Cam Brake Levers Buffers NERC021A: 51L NER Post-1918 Ribbed Wagon Buffers Brake Shoes UC015: 51L Clasp Brake Shoes for 12mm Diameter Wheels Solebar detail MT166: Mainly Trains Wagon Detailing Components The solebars, bufferbeams, v hangers and rod are all plasticard.

North Eastern Railway Class B No.860 of Malton shed passes Wilton Carr gatehouse with the daily pickup. The empty coal hopper behind the loco has just been collected from Thornton Dale coal cells.

Happy to be corrected, but as far as I'm aware, the clerestory autocoach (diagram 116) were unique to BTP (G6) tanks. The G5's were converted to push pull in the mid to late 1930's when the Sentinel Railcars were withdrawn and ex NER elliptical coaches were converted and these were unique to the G5's.

@Jon4470 I have the Keiser KS whitemetal kit, which I think represents the U16 prototype of the V4. Not started yet, but it would be an interesting one to compare to your Triang van project. I wonder how it compares for dimensions too.