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Because in the modern world a decent Competitor Intelligence consultant will take about an hour to subtly start letting people know the company sees them as ‘mouth breathers gobbing off’…?

I still think it’s a ‘boil the frog’ strategy. Give it 5 years and I’ll give it a tenner most Hornby orders are direct

What’s in it for Rapido? ’ok, you’ve proven you’re bigger and better than us, we’ll help you out’? there’s at least one word for that. And the capital of Sweden has a whole syndrome… in this particular situation I would suggest it has got to be win lose, because to do what you’ve suggested would be lose win.

wasn't the point (for the purposes of the plot even if not in reality) that modern couplings and Thunderbolt wouldn't connect - hence lashing the tender to the Loriot Y with rope. When the rope failed, clearly the coupling wouldn't work for whatever the same reason was it hadn't been an option before the rope made its appearance at Titfield station. Hence the borrowing of the drive chain from the roller - which presumably mirrored the flexibility of the rope. Ie they then used chain to lash them together instead of rope. I could probably have shortened that to 'because plot'

to be honest (and I pre-ordered from Rapido the day their Titfield stuff was announced) if Hornby want to make Lion then while it's a bit of daft duplication, on they go with it. It was the efforts to go head to head with someone on a niche that they inarguably had the rights to and Hornby didn't that was the nasty taste for me. My assumption is that they were hoping Rapido would roll over before Studio Canal blinked (to mix metaphors). Assuming that that hasn't happened, it's frankly hard not to laugh.

we've just cross posted - I don't think *anyone* has been disagreeing with anything you've written. There is, however, a strawman to the effect that they have been that keeps getting talked about...

I think we're at cross purposes here - no one has been saying that the money available to the market won't go down for starters... The point is that it is unlikely to be as cataclysmic as some suggestions that the market is about to get sideswiped by everyone turning the taps off at once. Some will turn off the taps, some will be unaffected, some will turn the taps down a bit and some will turn them up. I think that's literally all anyone has been saying, but some people have interpreted it as people have been saying either 'there's nothing to worry about' or 'spending's going to go up'

Some might actually. There absolutely are people out there who have bills to pay and then model railways are the only other thing they spend money on, so those people will have no choice but to cut their railway expenditure if they come under pressure. However, most people are not in that position. Hypothetically, someone will have to pay the bills, and then have a list (of varying length depending on the individual) of lots of things - so for example: -model railways -going to the pub -masons/rotary/round table -going to the football/rugby/cricket -stamp collecting -etc Now, as I understand it all the poster was saying was that when people are squeezed *most* people are not going to suddenly have to drop *all* of that and just pay the bills. So it becomes more about how each person prioritises their list and which ones they drop. Hypothetically then, some people are going to drop everything but model railways, or everything but going to the rugby (or whatever) but actually because of all the savings they're making elsewhere they might end up - through indulgence/treat/little luxuries - spending slightly more on what they still spend on than they would have done otherwise, even though their total overall spending has gone down. Make sense?

Interesting fact - on your energy price the government takes more in tax than the energy company makes in profit, even *after* today’s hikes…

I think this is a bit of a red herring to be honest, but for the sake of accuracy, film (as opposed to television which is 50 years from broadcast) is + 70 years from the last to die of: principal director, author of screenplay, author of dialogue, or composer of music specifically created for and used in the film. Given the Titfield Thunderbolt's director died in 1999 I think any 'it's out of copyright' argument is a total non-starter*. But I don't suppose that would be the argument anyway. *unless the 1956 act didn't retrospectively supercede the 1911 act, but we really are into IANAL territory there.

I'm 41 and my dad taped it off Channel 4 onto Betamax for me in about 1988...

I think we need to be more out of the box on this - I go for Lion pulling a Blackpool tramcar and then a Toad body on a lowmac. Gentlemen, the Driffield Thunderbox - as nearly seen on tv.

I'd think you'd have more of a point if Hornby was a large company... It's basically a design unit, and some head office staff, with (in the great scheme of things), a tiny market capitalisation, thrashing around as the largest small fish in quite a small pond. Having worked in companies of five times the size of Hornby (by revenue), they didn't even have in-house legal... Not saying it's the same in this case, but Hornby are hardly a city firm,

that's a dark road to go down...

Which is why I'm praying the A5 sells (and buying one) - it's a bit too far south for me (though would have come through my patch on way to/from the Tank, but if sales encourage someone to make the L3... Incidentally, I was talking to an L3 fireman the other week (and there can't be many LNER footplate crew still with us) and it seems to have fired about as well as it looked, so perhaps that explains the lack of attention to date!

I really want an L3. I appreciate there’s less than zero chance of Hornby doing it (and more but still very little of anyone else) but I’ll keep saying it!

At which point of course some went into departmental use. Chinnor have got one in use as the headquarter coach at Princes Risborough (for booking on etc)

scrolling right back to both the early pages of this thread, and the early pages of the Genesis thread, I can confirm that I am a complete novice stupid enough now I've got a real live Precedent in my hands to at least give a Ratio kit a go. I've got 5 LNWR Genesis on order though because the rendering of the livery is beautiful.

I'm not sure Hornby (or anyone else) would be able to do an accurate as-built Lion. And doing something 'Lionish but not quite Lion as we know her now' based on guesswork sounds a bit desperate frankly. If Hornby have really hinted that their Lion is going to be 'as originally in service' then I might get the popcorn ready now - they'll have either made a huge contribution to the body of scholarship on early locomotives, or not.

or even 1830s

actually I can pass it off as a promotional tour of the Woodford Halse-Culworth-Helmdon area in support of the film I suppose!

Yes - I model 1950s Northants so it’s wrong on every level, but I love the film…

was just about to ask the same question - gave them a blank cheque pre-order. Relieved not to have bankrupted myself!