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Looks like it: (Robertcwp of this parish Flickr image) Simon

Yeah, Bob Dylan isn't really singing at the best of times, is he? 😉 I'll get my coat... Simon

Looking good Jerry. I like the new vistas this is opening up. Have fun tomorrow! Simon

Nice! Expanding her repertoire? Adding a bit of Snoop Dogg etc to the usual classics?

It's quite a comedown from Chinley in its heyday: 1902 view of Chinley's second station. Stratfordman72 Flickr photo. Simon

Anything you might find in an open wagon that would fit in the container and not obstruct fitting of the spreader beams. Peter Tatlow's LNER Wagons 4B lists bottles, machinery, tiles, bricks, scrap tin, concrete and plaster blocks, castings, ranges, cookers, registers, radiators, baths, earthenware, hardware, box boards, gramophone, iron and steelwork and shrubs and trees. @jwealleans has in the past noted a photo showing one or more DX loaded with aggregate if memory serves. Paul Bartlett's site has some useful details for the smaller Type H container: https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brhodcontainer/h36be5370 Simon

The overly thick valance makes the cylinder situation look worse than it is. At least the proportions suggest you won't need to convert it into this! (Paul Kearley collection Flickr image) Simon

Andy, Is this a scratchbuild or an early kit? The chunky running plate/valance, sort of straight across the front and curved down rather than being a proper right angle seems to be the main issue. The portion under the smokebox should also be set back rather than in line with the bits either side. The front, lower section of a B1 running plate also tapers inwards slightly. I can't tell to what extent it does on your model. As an aside, I remember seeing a review of the Farish N gauge B1 saying that this taper on the model was wrong because it wasn't shown on the Roche drawing. D'oh! Roger Smith Flickr image of 61041 The angle of the steampipes seems to be wrong too. Simon

For LMS coaches, it has to be Jenkinson and Essery's three volume The Illustrated History of LMS Standard Coaching Stock. Using the pictures and diagrams therein and comparing with a combination of pictures of the trains you want to model and, where possible, carriage working books/train marshaling documents for the approximate period you are interested in. Regards, Simon

The headcode disc positions on the EE Type 4 doors are also a giveaway. Discs are on the left hand door as viewed from the front. Simon

I do tend to try and avoid posting random nonsense Tony. As Jonathan alludes to, Harris refers to to Newton's May 1944 report to the Emergency Board of the LNER about carriage shortages. This was followed by his November 1944 report which set out proposals for construction of 4600 vehicles. This went into detail about the characteristics of the stock. Prototype Corridor 1st 1531 built in early 1945 embodied many of these features and was sometimes referred to as the Newton coach. He won't have been the designer (and I can't answer the questions Stephen posed), but it is the Chief General Manager's name that gets attached to this first coach and by extension what we call Thompsons in general. Simon

Are these kit-built scratchbuilt or ready to plonk structures Jerry? Simon

Here he is: (Chief) General Manager of the LNER 1939-1947. A bit more info here: https://m.facebook.com/DidcotRailwayCentre/photos/a.210517012308528/4022782961081895/?type=3 Another one with work experience less parochial than our interests tend to be. Simon

Sticking with GC matters, no-one seems to have mentioned that the GC matchboard RC is available via ebay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266349991954 Simon

Is that cab a bit too far back Tony, or is it just the angle? In that view it looks like you'll struggle to get the rear handrails in. There's a colour feature on the O4s in the latest BackTrack magazine. Interestingly it includes a nice shot of 63920, the O4/6 you've modelled, still pulling the same sort of Robinson tender as it would have as an O5. An ex-works O4/8 on the cover too: https://pocketmags.com/backtrack-magazine?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAg9urBhB_EiwAgw88mdbj2ZAyyKt6Hod0fQKAMrKUblia-hFelw8OTSIjEa1wATqNOOipnBoCGZ4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds It's not too often you see an O4 clean enough to see that the buffer bodies on a Gorton-shopped O4 are black! Regards, Simon

Here's another variation on GC matchboard restaurant/kitchen cars immediately post-nationalisation: https://hmrs.org.uk/-aca504--rkk-br-e53357----xgc-at-doncaster-ca1950-f3r-gas-tanks-underneath-truss-rod-underframe.html Teak (?) but with BR lettering and numbering. No idea what diagram this one is. Does anyone know? A good few years ago there were a set of immediately post-nationalisation coaching stock photos for sale on ebay, @jwealleans may well remember. They were mostly GE subjects, but with one or two GC coaches in among. One featured one of the 5G4 kitchen conversions E5127 in teak, lettered Restaurant Car with LNER number and just the E prefix in BR style. Simon

Unfortunately Longworth has got a bit mixed up with his coach naming at points and so most (all?) the matchboard stock is titled Barnum. This couldn't be a Barnum coach as there were no catering Barnums, only the TOs and BTOs. Simon

Someone else may be able to cross-check (e.g. with the Clive Carter BackTrack articles on LNER restaurant and kitchen cars), but looking at Longworth it looks like a GC 60ft RC to GC diagram 5M3. E577 is recorded as making it to 12/49. Less long-lived than the 5M1 and 5M2(5G4) kitchen cars that would be suitable for Little Bytham. Regards, Simon

Or an underbridge. Someone would be happy to supply a bus for a potential bridge bash scene, I'm sure 😉 Simon

Oops. Was it that long ago? Mind you it still wouldn't be finished now if it was built to my timescales! I'll go for a Scottish exile then, 45665. Simon

Jutland? Simon

Tony, if you are happy to share them again then I'm sure they would be appreciated. Is there any pattern to which tenders had straight beading and which had curved on the sidesheet extensions? Simon

4000 gallon self-trimming type The self-trimming tender differs from the non-self trimming type by: - having a hopper shaped coal space with correspondingly very different coalhole. - being consistently 8ft 9in over platform with a wider tank than the earlier tenders (earlier tenders were 8ft 3in over platform except for the wider sections on the large-boilered locos, and earlier tenders were 7ft 8 outside the tank compared with 8ft 1 and a bit for the self-trimming type) - having less overhang in the flare as a result (as they were the same width over coalguards as the earlier tenders). - having a straight-topped front coalplate with upturned ends as opposed to the gentle arc of the earlier tenders. - having a prominent central toolbox on top of the tender front. It is the latter 2 features that are most consistently obvious in photos. Compare non-self trimming: (Historical Railway Images picture of 1165 Valour on Flickr) with self-trimming: (Peter Brabham image on Flickr) (Arriving Somewhere Flickr image) Note also the longer coalguards like the non-self trimming type fitted to the later wide-boilered locos. Yeadon's Register states that these tenders were only ever fitted to classes D11/1, D11/2, B3 and B7. The D11/2 tenders lacked water pick up apparatus, although the GA for them shows all the boxes for it to be fitted present. Sadly the photographs of Butler Henderson's self-trimming tender here: uploaded by @t-b-g were lost. Simon

I've put this in this area because the following is an aid to modelling rather than a type history, and is an aide memoire for me whilst building GC locos in 2mm scale. The Standard GC tender is another of those railway items where standard is a complete misnomer. Whilst the 3 basic sorts of Robinson tenders (I'm deliberately excluding the 40 3080 gallon tender fitted to the later J10s as these share many Parker/Pollitt features) do share a number of common features, there's plenty of variety in the 3 types: i) 3250 gallon ii) 4000 gallon iii) 4000 gallon self trimming There's even more if we were to consider the later life of the ROD tenders and the modified tenders behind the D49s. It's easiest to start with what a Robinson tender isn't. They were derived from the earlier Pollitt and Parker tenders, but are easily distinguishable chiefly by looking at the tender valance and the tender footsteps. Pollitt and Parker (and Robinson 3080 gallon) tenders: Rear of valance curves down to meet the bufferbeam and stepplates are not joggled inwards. Rear steps will be absent altogether in early condition. Robinson 3250 and 4000 gallon tender: Valance is a consistent depth with no rear curve and bottom front and rear stepplates are joggled inwards. So before anyone convinces you a J10 0-6-0 is trailing a Robinson 4000 gallon tender, just check the rear of the tender valance! i) 3250 gallon tenders The 3250 gallon type was introduced on the B1, B5, C4, J11, D9 and Q4 (using LNER nomenclature for ease). (H C Casserley image Charlie Verrall on Flickr) The first of the tenders (for D9 and J11) had 2 coalrails and no water pickup apparatus (circular rear filler?) with later 3250 gallon tenders having four coalrails and water pick up apparatus (D filler and 'ship's wheel' operating handwheel). As built it does not look like these tenders had a rear division plate/coalplate. For both 3250 and 4000 gallon tenders, the RCTS volumes suggest that plating of the coalrails started rapidly: plating done pre-Grouping being on the outside of the coalrails; and post-Grouping inside of them. A coalrail tender with external plating will lack the beading around the top edge of the coalguard seen on those built with solid coalguards from new. See for example, the lack of beading on 63598's 4000 gallon tender here: https://railphotoprints.uk/p494432063/h388aa177 ii) 4000 gallon tenders The 4000 gallon tender, with a deeper tank than the 3250 gallon tender but the same coal capacity was introduced in 1904. These were at first produced without a rear division plate and with 4 coalrails. Sheet steel coal guards with outside beading were provided for new tenders from approx.1905. Whilst there are many variations within the non-self trimming (standard or horseshoe) tenders, the 3 major variants are: 1) the initial batches with short coalguards and a slight taper to the tender flare at the front like the earlier Pollitt tenders, no or a low division plate, and D filler with or without scoop control gear and associated boxes; (Charlie Verrall Flickr image) 2) the ROD tender, retaining the short coalguards and the tapered flare, but with full height division plate, with 2 supporting stanchions, further back on the tank, and with circular tank filler; (Robert Gadson Flickr image) and finally 3) the type fitted to some of the later large boilered locos with long coalguards, no taper, and high division plate in the same place as that on the initial batches tenders. (Flickr image G R Griggs image uploaded by Colin Alexander) The change to long coalguards occurred on GC locos prior to the ROD tenders being produced such that B8, B3, B6, B7 and O5 locos all received these tenders from new (excluding those B7s equipped with the self trimming type from new), and some D11s received them when giving up their self-trimming tenders to B3s. The early tenders and ROD batch looked like this: The later long coalguard variety looked like this: Note also the variation in brake standard position. The earlier tenders seem to have included examples with the brake standard in either position. The later long coalguard tenders and the earlier tenders fitted to wide boilered locos (B2 and D10) featured a widened running plate in front of the sidesheets: ((Flickr image uploaded by Richard) Seen also on this later pattern tender on an ex-O5: (Robert Gadson Flickr image) Other differences to watch out for are: the presence or absence of sandboxes either side of the coal hole; tenders with D filler, but no scoop control gear boxes (scoop gear removed): (Flickr image posted by Tony Bonsall) As noted by Tony below, most of the 4000 gallon tenders had the beading on top of the small side sheet extensions curving outwards so that the vertical handrail was not in line with sidesheets. Some however had straight beading and inline handrails. The footplate level (mounted on top of the running plate) also varied in height according to the loco to which it was attached. The axlebox spring arrangement common to all varieties of a longer spring on the middle axlebox: (Flickr Charlie Verrall image) Note how the middle spring hangers overlap the cutout more than those on either side. There are umpteen axlebox and spring hanger differences too. Please feel free to point out any errors. Self-trimming tenders to follow... Simon

Westinghouse brake removed by approx July 1936 on B16s. Simon