Theakerr

Thks Paul

In 1958, we would probably be on our way the the Model Railway Show at Westminster Hall (for many years a Father Son outing) where I got my 1st Bilteze sheet or on our way to Gamages where for some strange reason where our parents always bought our bicycles. Then, of course there would be the required stop at Hamleys

Thanks ACG-mr, that close to what I want and defiantly along the lines of what I want. I did a bit of experimenting over the weekend using "life" logic that is similar to your route. Basically I followed what I think would have been the life cycle of the whitewashed brick. So first I painted the brickwork the colour I think the brickwork would have been as built using artists acrylics. Then I "whitewashed" it all over with Tamiya matt white using a fairly heavy hand. This heavy hand brought about areas where the original colour of the brickwork started to come through due to the white starting to attack the artist acrylic underneath. This is what i remember from real life when the whitewash didn't seem to penetrate all bricks the same and also after time some bricks seemed to loose their whitewash faster than others. The entire thing was then "sooted" using matt black starting at the top as you have done. putting on much distilled water and letting it run down sometimes helping it by dapping a wet brush onto the matt black. This way the mortar has come up blacker than the brick body as it would have because the mortar is more absorbent and the soot would tend to go to the cracks/recesses associated with the mortar. I will leave the completed test for a couple of days to see how i like it after a while, but it is better than anything I have done so far and it has the added advantage that the weathering/sooting can be done on the entire station facade at the same time so that the weathering will look more or less uniform Petethemole (nearly put peterthemole - that was clever), thanks for the feedback, i did try your thoughts over the weekend as well using several shades of artists acrylic grey that i happened to have. Basically it came through as grey, not sooted/weathered whitewash if you can understand the subtlety. Thanks though.

Interesting since i have just "renovated an old Hornby/Airfix Lomac and was looking for some colour pictures of what the deck looked like. Unless something crops up it will be generic rahter than to a particular diagram. So will be following this thread to see if anyone comes up with some pictures. By the way, the original wheels that are way beyond the pale can be replaced with US HO truck wheels. They fit in with almost no problems and are very very close to the correct size.

Yep that early morning stopper at all stations was a right pain. When my Dad and I went to London, we would catch it at Waltham, get off at Louth, have breakfast and then catch the 07:30 (or whatever the exact time was) and go all the way through to Kings Cross on it.

Any thoughts on how to create dirty whitewashed (red) brick wall in my station shed where the dirt is primarily smoke. ? I am using Wills (brown) window arches in several configurations and there is a 3d effect due to the plastic impression of the bricks and the mortar. I have used Tamiya matt white as a base then tried to "dirty"it by the following, black weathering powders, black dry brushing, very dilute black airbrushing, black brush wash. I have also tried a "cream" base with the same dirtying methods. None look right. The weathering powders and the black brush wash go mainly to the mortar lines and the weathering powder blotches in some areas, the dry brushing just goes onto the bricks, the airbrushing just looks like like black on a very white background. Thoughts would be appreciated.

Way back when, I posted the following: heakerr, on 04 Aug 2013 - 16:51, said: Last night I came across the following site www.stationcolours.info and I contacted the owner Peter Smith. He confirmed, that despite my advanced years, my memory is not that bad and that the inside of station sheds were sometimes whitewashed (and painted cream) to make them brighter. Thus, the inside of Grimsby town will be whitewashed although of course by 1955 it would be getting pretty dirty as there wasn't a lot of funding for "cosmetics"

Fantastic set of notes. I have been waiting for several years to get information like this which is factual, succinct and correct.

Nothing like the fact to confuse the memory. If the 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby train didn't get into Kings Cross until 22:00, then it would have to be a pretty late dinner for that fish. I must admit that I always thought the journey from Grimsby to KX was about 5 hours. Anyway the facts beg the question, why bother at all with the vans on the rear. By the way, in my last post Mallard (now corrected) should have read Mayflower. Gilbert will understand.

First time i have looked at this thread (for some unknown reason). Very very nice

Gilbert, thats interesting about the fish vans not going all the way through to London. My memory says that the 15:00 was a through train to London but again that was many many years ago.As a child we had always understood that the fish vans, especially on the 15:00, were put on specially so that the people eating out in London could have "fresh" fish for dinner at the better restaurants. That's not to say that the impression was correct though. I will talk to my Sisters and see what their memory is. By the way, I think they would have to be put on at Grimsby Town. If they were put on at Grimsby Docks they would have been either at the front end or would have had to be changed to the back at Grimsby Town. p.s. Mayflower now regularly hauls a rake of 10 Gresleys (with two coaches behind the Guards Van as per my memory) on my make believe 07:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby to London on the intermediate stopping train. Grimsby, Louth, Firsby, Boston, Spalding, PETERBOROUH NORTH, Hitchin Kings Cross

Forgot to mention on the subject of freight. The 15:00 Cleethorpes/Grimsby to London train would always have at least one van and often three vans loaded with fish on ice (not necessarily fish vans) on the rear. There was also a London train somewhere between 17:00 and 18:00 (I think) that would always have vans loaded with fish on ice. In the later years I remember the regular vans sometimes being replaced by fish vans. I assume that the vans were brought up from the docks and put on the rear at Grimsby when the loco changed ends.

From my memories of New Waltham, the empty fish trains were always longer than the up full ones. From the data, I wonder where the coal trains left since they are not shown as going through Peterborough and where the iron ore (full and empty) came in and left the Grimsby Peterborough line.

Nice to see some freight pictures. I cannot comment on the ECML but certainly on the Crimsby/Peterborough line there was a fair bit of freight (if my memory serves me correctly). coal, iron ore, sugar beet, fish (for the period you are covering I think there would have been at least three if not four fish trains a day), steel products from Scunthorpe and all the misc stuff to keep the farmers happy.

I have used insulfrogs throughout my layout and in fact they are critical to my automated fiddle yard. The only think I have had to do is add tender pick-ups to many of my locos to ensure smooth running through them. Having said that I think tender pick-ups are a good idea anyway to improve slow running characteristics.

Defiantly not Ian. I am sort of building Grimsby (UK) in Ontario. You would have so many lines to base it on Louth to Horncastle, Woodhall junction to Woodhall, the list goes on

I would very much like to have a couple of sets to try out, especially on my long fixed rakes which have to undergo on/off type loads. I live in Canada so it might be difficult to make something happen.

What is the status of the coupling assemblies. They are shown on the Shapeway site but it says they are not for sale.

Looking very nice Jason

Fascinating, some very nice modelling too

For gutters and downspouts, I tend to take the simple (lazy) way and buy them. My personal choice is Ratio 538. British Imports in Oakville generally has them in stock.

After reading and following this thread for a while I think this might be a good place to ask about the inside walls of a station train shed. Specifically, can anyone confirm my memory that thinks the bricks on the inside of many station train sheds, i.e. under the overall platform canopy/roof, was painted white (whitewashed) to make it appear lighter. I am specifically interested in Grimsby town station, circa 1955. Thanks

Back from my travels (10,000km) that included a visit to Wainfleet. A very pleasant visit it was too along with a jar or two down at the local. (My son and I closed the Brickhouse down the next night). The layout is coming along well and I look forwards to seeing it next year on my annual pilgrimage. The various buildings are as good or better than they show up here and Jason's construction techniques are most interesting. I really will have to upgrade my old MAC so that I can get into some of this "cutter" (and 3D) printing.

Gets better with every photo session

Trust you found all was well upon arriving back in Fernie. The Corwsnest Pass must have been something. We were on the TC last year and ended up having to make a 300km + diversion through Rocky Mountain House because a mudslide just north of Banff.