Porcy Mane

It has gone on the to do list... Over painting of the faded lettering could be a challenge...

Sez the Jim McIvor of Railway modelling. How many of your wagons are only painted/lettered/weathered on one side only? Go on then... That fella must have been the worst shot in the history of TV baddies. First he accidentally shoots his oppo in the back... then despite having more bullets than Bruce Willis, fails to hit any of the rozzers. Maybe his "piece" fired the slowest bullets ever known? At least we hear him shout the immortal line, "I wouldn't try anything coppers"! If only it had been the perfect, "You'll never take me alive... coppers!" So anyone any Idea of the location of the goods/marshalling yard? Can't have been to many in the London area with overhead tram wires. Porcy

Well there is the matter of that £50.00 I lent you... remember??? P

Sorry Dave. That remark was meant for "Axlebox". If you get to Scaleforum you'll see what I mean. That puts a little bit of pressure on Duncan to get them finished. P

Chalk board substitutes. Simples... I wonder If Mr (Dowty) Franks has seen that clip yet? Got them hoppers sorted? P

Probably Filmed in 1959 or 1960: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCd_nDN9uHs A 16 tonner and a cupboard door at 16:52. (and a Blue Peter presenter). Porcy

66611 on the Potash Empties. 2008. Porcy

The standard Grosmont portrait view. (In a downpour.) P

Let's take a look at its other cheek then... P

I'll raise you six... (Seven if you include the "cartoon" A4!) but it's not really a portrait and it's a pic everyone (and their dogs) took a couple of weeks ago. P (In wi**y waving mode.)

There ya go..... Apologies for the dire light. Not a ray of sun could be found. Porcy

I've always assumed (probably incorrectly) the Harwich workings were for export only. This is from Transport Age 30 (Sept 1964) It shows one of the MAT tierwags loaded with Mk 1 Austin1100's and Minis on the ferry. I suppose that transporter may be part of a rake that originated in the Birmingham area: then gone via London? Porcy

Well, I like 140,000 others I went along to the NRM A4 event. Before going I’d decided on not taking any phots but once there, couldn’t resist the temptation of pulling it of my pocket. Can’t decide which one, so have two… Porcy

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New one? Andrew Barclay 2126 CEGB Gloucester 20 March 1965 by pondhopper1, on Flickr Porcy

Going down Seaton bank. The line was originally rope worked. That point was a regular stop for pinning the brakes. The train probably originated from Hawthorn Combined mine; (Photographers of the time generally referred to Hawthorn as "South Hetton"). The product could be one of many grades of coal or coke. Hawthorn was a large coal preparation, coke and bye-products plant. It's shaft drew the coal production from surrounding collieries allowing those collieries to dispense with their coal washing plants and antiquated rail systems,hence the name combine. It was "state of the art "on opening in the late fifties to early sixties. Pinning in Action. 65811 Seaton Bank 23.5.67 by George of Dufton, on Flickr P Edited to try and sort out the formatting (and me gramma)...

I can't remember if Tim Shackleton built an open version for his MRJ article??? but there is this: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=510220 P

and I like converging horizontals going off to vanishing points... P

Dunno if this fills the criteria of "creative"? Porcy

Thanks Paul, Just for Mike at post #1308 and to illustrate there are always exceptions to the rule; here is a pic from earlier in the thread that shows a welded 1955 build by Maclellands with a pressed end door. 12 years old by the time the pic was taken but showing no evidence of a works visit or repaint. 65879 Seaton Bank 4.9.67 by George of Dufton, on Flickr P

I've got some drawings based on the Pressed Steel originals. When I say, "I've got", what I mean is I've just spent 10 minutes looking through the highly disorganised mess that is my filing system and can't find where they are. They would be difficult to scan as i) they are a bit bigger than A3 ii) my scanners screwed at the moment but when I find them (That may take some time!) I'll see what I can do. I think the drawing in the diagram book is wrong from the point of view that it shows the wrong number of panel divisions on the box sides. I’ve got 25 of the things stashed under my bed. I’ve always fancied a full rake being tested behind a 47. The “silly” plan at the moment is resin cast the bodies (I’ve watched your demo Jon), then stick the Scalecraft stuff on eBay. It would be like a small lottery windfall the price they go for. Porcy

Funny thing is with Pressed Steel building one of there Linwood factories specifically to build 16 tonners and that factory producing almost 24% of all BR built examples, I’ve never found a pic of one of their wagons with pressed end door. Admittedly I haven’t looked very hard and now expect to be shot down in flames… P

I follow your logic but don't think it can be any guarantee. More so, once a wagon so numerous as the humble 16 tonner got a few years under its belt, maintenance saw some side and end doors starting to get replaced. I suppose it boils down to trying to look at as many photographs as possible. Since Micheal started this thread, through looking at the many photographs being published on the internet, I’m beginning to think the pressed end door was more common than I originally thought. (Pressed ends being common on riveted wagons) Here is yet another. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/birdbrook/index4.shtml P

I think you are probably right, but that then begs the question, barring it being the "victim" of an early re-body; was some of the wagons that were later allocated to diagram 100 built with straight sides and no bottom doors? Oh dear... Just had a look through my books and looking at the first pic in the first wagon book I ever bought, there is B96956, a Linwood build with no traders door, or bottom doors. (but Standard W Irons) P

But without Mr Goads designed gusset holes... Hows he doing these days Mike? Have you seen him lately? P