Porcy Mane

I'm sure no one would mind if you posted them here? P

King George Dock, Kingston upon Hull. http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw036389?search=hull&ref=114 Porcy

I've slipped in a set of Gibson 14mm coach wheels (back to backs set at 17.75mm) with nothing more than mods to the brake blocks. I found the wheels fitted and spun freely with no relieving to the rear of W irons necessary. The Brake assemblies were well glued but I removed them by first removing the body then the top plate of the coupling mechanism. This gave me access to the top surface of the brake block mounting holes which were lightly countersunk. I then used a 1 mm rod in a pin vice to then push out the brake blocks. I next drilled a new set of mounting holes right next to the inner face of the sole bar into which my modified brake blocks were fitted. I modded the blocks by removing the offset part of the moulding but being careful to retain the mounting spigots. This left me with eight individual brake blocks instead of the original 4 assemblies These were fixed into the new mounting holes using hypo glue to ease removal when it comes to eventually fitting sprung W irons. The floor is quite shallow so to fit sprung W irons it looks like a section of the floor will need to be removed and a higher false floor added to achieve the correct ride height. The original W iron would need to be filed away leaving the spring intact. Similar to what's been done to this Van C. Back to the CCT. I'll probably be replacing the vac cylinders as they look to be well under scale and the larger of the V hangers scale out at almost five inches thick so they may be replaced. The bracket holding the voltage regulator to my eye looks a little on the large side and hangs a bit too low so may get altered to be more in line with my Masterclass models example. Also need to make up the missing grab handle from the right hand nearside ends and I'll definitely be replacing the roof vents and adding the roof weld lines. Hope the above doesn't sound to critical as they're minor niggles for what is an excellent model. Thanks Bachmann. Porcy

So next question is, what's the difference? (Betwixt the LMS coach Buffer and the buffer used on the Lima thingy) Maybe I need to swot up on LMS coaching stock buffers??? But: P Edit: Wet Kipper time again. (It's still handy...) You're going to say clipped heads aren't you!

Are you talking this type Dave? Excuse the quick drift OT. Porcy EDIT. I've just slapped myself round the face with a wet kipper. Realised your probably talking about the 42 footer. The word bogie didn't register!

Couldn't' agree more but as Arthur has said Consett works, just as with other steel works, had massive bunkering and storage facilities. It wasn't unknown that during winter the ore in the hopper wagons after loading at Tyne Dock (Sea Level) would get wet due to rain but was frozen solid on arrival at Consett which is approx. 900ft ASL. I've been told no amount of steam lancing would free the ore. Contingency plans were always in place. Likewise the ore ships didn't stop sailing due to holiday periods but that was when things were "slack" so it was time for maintenance. I was surprised when told a whole rake of hoppers would have it's wheels turned in one go but the info came directly from the man that did the job for many years. An anomaly of the wheel tuning operation was that the wheel sets in traffic wore much more on one side that t'other. Strange as the hoppers were turned for each trip on a triangle after coming of the bunkers but again that came from the horses mouth. P

Would it not be the standard, "Not to be used for PW Ballast or other engineers materials" as applied to most (but not all) of the cupboard door minerals following the accident when a loco collided with the open doors on an engineers train??? See: http://fox-transfers.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/2dfba82ca589aca4258937695a19c66a/F/R/FRH7950.jpg Porcy

They're on their usual diversion via Relly Mill and Lanchester due to the derailment of 23 runaway and loaded 21 ton hoppers at Beamish on the previous day. (9th Dec 1964). Unfortunately the guard of the train the hoppers collided with was killed. Evidence of this derailment can still be seen in the form of scars on the tunnel abutments at the west entrance to the ex rail tunnel at Beamish on what is now the C2C cycle route. The 56 tonners also passed through Durham during the Annual Consett works shutdowns. They would be en-route (and return) to Shildon wagon works for their regular wheel turning maintenance by this fella. P

White to reflect heat??? Same as some early DMU's??? Porcy

Percy Mane's Railway Trivia fact no. 1347. Just so happens the chimney from 60034 Lord Farringdon, lived in a back garden that backed on to the ECML about 100 yards beyond the PW cabin on the right hand side of the picture from 1968 to 1972. I wonder how many folk saw it when passing by in a train? Porcy

I've managed over the years to collect quite a large amount of "research material" from various places re the early freightliner flats. Just looking through some of it there is a hand written note as follows; Single freightliner flats. RIV Couplings and 1' 10" Hydraulic buffing gear both ends B601999 FGF 1966 B602206 FFB Converted 1977 1967 Renumbered B601997 on conversion. B602231 FFB Converted 1977 1967 Renumbered B601998 on conversion. RDB602548 FFB-Research Dept. 1969 Renumbered B601996 on conversion. (FJA) To revenue traffic circa. 1980. Conversions carried out at Temple mills. No mention is made of types of brake fitted. I can't vouch for any authenticity as no sources are quoted but it matches up with the Silsbury/Collins tables quite well. Porcy

Best I can do. Porcy

I seem to remember that (Tri-ang)-Hornbys boast when they introduced the freightliner wagon was that their wagon was running on the model railways of Britain before the prototype was running on the real thing. Maybe Bachmann would consider this container if they do the non turnlock version of the FFA/FGA. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brfreightliner/h3b0d3e38#h3b0d3e38 A photograph appeared with it loaded on the end of a container train in the contemporary railway press at the time of the Guards dispute. (Modern Railways I think) Porcy

I was in the same mind as you until I read the reference. It was quite recent. I've spent a couple hours looking for the original source but haven't turned it up at the moment. It's going to be a while before I can start dredging again as life will be getting in the way over the next few days. One of the things that struck me is that improved side and end door seals would be needed but I remember thinking that the written source of the info was reliable. Apologies to Dave for dragging his photo thread off topic. P

There was a discussion in the 16 ton mineral thread regarding the black patches and a good few photo examples. This yootube link springs to mind: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/36891-16t-minerals/?view=findpost&p=1145832 at about 3:44 in. A search for "patches" in that thread should turn up some stuff. The white Squares (Variation of) I believe were first shown on examples of experimental liveries on goods wagons at the exhibition that celebrated the Golden Jubilee of the Institution of Locomotive Engineers that was held in the goods yard at Marylebone Station, London, 11-14 May 1961. I'll check my books later but think that on adoption of the revised liveries (1963?) the squares were to have a code inserted that indicated the speed rating of the vehicle. Not to sure but I'll get back on that. P

I think it was a batch of 100. Must go and find my reference. P

Cleats in the middle of the side/end panels and drop door. (With ties still dangling) P

16 Tonner for sugar traffic use behind (In front?) of the Class 11. P

Pedant and trivia mode ON: Only if you're relating to the car park. Some Get Carter scenes were shot in Manors station. Specifically the Subway entrance opposite the "Power House". In the railway arches that lies directly under the first car in the DMU set, a "baddie" took his last breath in the 1960 film "Payroll". Pedant and trivia mode OFF: Became "Generator" Night Club. Yee haa... Surprised Dave never linked to Mr Bracks 1929 aerials of the same spot. https://flic.kr/p/b2BkqF Porcy

Those ex ferry vans look a bit too rough to be let out on the Network. When new they were probably regulars into Tyne Yard before being tripped the last few hundred yards into the Team Valley Fruit and Vegetable market. P

37174 (D6874) at North Blyth on 11 August 2003. It had received a bit of a wash and brush up as the previous day it had been on display at the Huddersfield 150 rail day. Porcy

1947 map: Before Tyne Yard. P

Apr.2008 Still there in the Tornado phot. That was 28 Feb. 2009. I see it's still shown on Google and Bing maps but noticed it had gone in some of your pics. P

Add just to balance up all the deseisels on the thread have a kettle. P

The Tyne Yard repeater Tower of BRs innovative microwave radio telephone system installed between York and Newcastle Central stations in the early sixties. There were six Antennae, in total. Three small towers atop of York, Darlington and Newcastle Central stations plus 3 "tall" towers. One at Woolmoor, North East of Thirsk, one adjacent to the old Ferryhill Grammar School between Ferryhill / Kirk Merrington and Tyne yards. There's also a link to Consett/Tyne dock in the pic. That is, the young man bottom left of the picture had the annual task of re-profiling the wheels of the 56 ton hopper wagons and their Redcar/Consett successors. Normally during shutdowns and holiday periods. P